Jack Wilshere

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  • #701800
    FoxInTheBox™
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    So, with Xavi continuously heaping praise on JW, I wonder if anybody will take him seriously. I have repeatedly claimed on here that Jack Wilshere is in a class of his own but all the responses (usually bitter, jealous Chelsea and Spuds fans) have laughed and ridiculed me for it.

    As far as I’m concerned, Wenger regards Wilshere as his top talent and tries to build the entire team around him, but unfortunately he keeps getting injured and ends up being a small part of things.

    Hopefully he’ll stay healthy for a while and prove all his doubters wrong by playing pivotal roles in success for both club and country…

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    Biggest thing about Wilshere for me Fox, is that he’s one your few true academy players that is Arsenal through and through.

    A few seasons ago at a game at Chelsea when your were up against it, he was the only one who looked like he cared. He was constantly trying to lift his teammates, but he seemed to struggle and he cut a lonely figure on the pitch. How Arsenal could do with more of these players.

    Arsenal have the talent and footballing confidence in their philosophy and credit to Wenger for maintaining it for so long, but they just lack that fight for me to get them over the line.

    #701989
    steveosnakeeye
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    Agree Mikus, we miss the Adams, Bould Viera etc type of player, that stand up and be counted and TALK, actually during a match! especially when its going bad!

    Coquelin seems to have a bit of that in him….

    #702010
    hatters
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    Jack Wilshere is a very talented player but his career is in real danger of being completely destroyed by injury.

    If don’t play you can’t get the plaudits.

    #702028
    FoxInTheBox™
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    Yeah, he’s definitely committed to the cause. I actually think we’re at our best when all our British guys are playing. It’s just a shame injuries keep robbing us of the opportunity to see them playing together more often…

    #702034
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    Jack Wheelchair is massively over rated. Sorry. Thats not even me being a ‘bitter spud’ as you put it. I had hopes he would help propel England to another level but I am afraid he just isn’t that good. Injuries are not his only problem either.

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    FoxInTheBox™
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    Some of his best games have been for England though…

    #702052
    GinolasHair
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    Which I think tell you everything you need to know

    #702055
    taxidriverlfc
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    Quality player unfortunately blighted by Injuries, Saw Him against Our under 18’s a good few sesons ago and He stood out like a Sore Thumb, Great Future ahead of Him if He can get Fit and stay Injury Free.

    #702097
    FoxInTheBox™
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    GinolasHair, I don’t understand your point at all.

    – Wenger builds a team around Wilshere.
    – Xavi says he can be one of the best midfielders in the world.
    – You say you don’t rate him? But you hoped he would help propel England to another level?
    – Wilshere has some of his best games in an England shirt, driving the team and winning man of the match awards almost every time he played for them.

    And yet you say that ‘tells us everything we need to know’? Weird.
    All it tells us is Xavi, Wenger and I am probably right while you are just a bitter, jealous spud…

    #702205
    GinolasHair
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    Fox there you go again with the whole bitter thing. Do you always struggle this much to take criticism on one of oyur players lad?

    I can barely count the good games he has had for England on one hand yet you say that has been his best. As I say, that tells you all you need to know.

    Wenger is hardly going to say he is terrible is he and as for Xavi, well he wouldnt be the first world class player to be wrong about another player would he.

    #702283
    FoxInTheBox™
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    You keep proving my point about you right, with practically every single word you utter…

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    I am a very big fan of Jack Wilshere and wish Chelsea had grabbed him for themselves from Luton Town when Arsenal did.

    Sadly his career has been badly blighted by injuries and whether he will become the player that he was capable of being prior to the injuries is open to conjecture now as is whether the injuries will keep reoccurring.

    #702427
    steveosnakeeye
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    unfortunately i think we will never see Wilshere injury free for long enough to be the player he could be for Arsenal and England, id even be tempted to move him on soon if this does not improve, we need to start being a little tougher with long term sick notes, even ones with his skill and being an Arsenal fan himself

    would love to be proved wrong but can not see it happening

    cheers

    #702430

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    Even as a Spud I like Wiltshire – I really do – and for England’s sake I hope he does well. But, even aside from his obvious injury problems, he spends more time on his backside than upright, and he always appears to be a red card waiting to happen. Perhaps it’s his frustration at his lack of playing time, but if he concentrated on his football, rather than flying in everywhere and being such a chippy little sh*t, I’m sure he has a great future.

    #702433
    Hightown hope
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    Wilshire and Sturridge are so similar…very talented match winners that almost all teams in the Premiership would have in their starting line-ups, but they’re never fit. Consequently their careers are in danger of fizzling out. It’s a shame for their clubs and it’s also a shame for England.

    #702475
    notnice
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    lovely player but never known too many players that are so injury prone-he will probably give up the game at an early age

    #702637

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    999 cant help himself. Wilshere was 7 when he left Luton Town. Let me guess, we ‘stole’ Wilshere as well? It never ceases to amaze me, not least of all when you refuse to acknowledge John Terry spent 4 years at West Ham before leaving for Chelsea aged 15. Plus 999, if Wilshere joined Chelsea aged 8, lets face it, you could probably count on one hand the chances he would be have been given.

    As for Wilshere, well he is one player Wenger and Arsenal know has tremendous ability. Wenger persisted with RVP for years despite his injuries. RVP was always a special player and Wenger knew it. The same applies for Wilshere, he is a special player and has that talent in him that can be unleashed.

    He has been hampered by injuries, and even a desire to try to hard. Seeing Ramsey surpass him must have been tough, and you could see Wilshere tried to over do it when he played last season. Rather, he needs to just play his own game and link up with the likes of Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla and his form will come back naturally. Wilshere isnt some unproven kid, he has proven his talent from ages as young as 18. When he gets back form injury, he just needs to take it easy and ease himself in.

    As for those doubters. Well they are either Wilshere haters, or prefer to see the likes of Milner, Henderson and Gareth Barry in midfield for England.

    Xavi is right, Wilshere can be one of the worlds best. He may not be in a great spot right now, but he has ability and talent that exceeds every current English footballer. I still think Jack is a better play than Ramsey.

    #702655

    the bsm walk
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    Gionlas…why do you have to let Arsenal hate get in the way? I was watching the game against your lot in the pub with a few of my Tottenham mates (weird, I know). I was telling them what a decent player Dele Ali looks. I’d have no hesitation praising a Tottenham player.

    Honestly, I see it all the time, Wilshere or any other player could have the best game ever, there’d still be some criticism from others that support rival teams.

    For me, if Wilshere doesn’t sort out his injury problems within the next two years, you can almost write him off like Diaby. He needs to develop and fine tune his game, he won’t be able to do it off the treatment table, that’s for sure.

    And Syd, I don’t think 999 meant anything by the Luton Town thing, or maybe he did it to wind you up? In any case, I don’t think he really believes that Wilshere was educated anywhere other than Arsenal. Barcelona, a handful of their ‘la masia’ graduates I.E Iniesta came from other teams at a very young age, doesn’t mean those teams should lay claim to their developments. But then, I’m sure every Tom, Dick & Harry knows that (well I hope)!

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    the bsm walk. 999 always goes out of his way to downplay the role Arsenal played in Fabregas, Clichy, Song, Coquelin, Bellerin, even though they all joined Arsenal at a similar age to Terry joining Chelsea.

    How can it be Coquelin isnt an Arsenal youth player, when he joined aged 16 and spent 3 years in the youth teams, before making his debut, when Terry joined Chelsea aged 15, and spent 3 years in the youth teams before making his debut? Bellerin joined Arsenal aged 16, and spent two seasons playing for Arsenal youth teams before making his first team debut.

    Another thing 999, if Luton Town produced Jack Wilshere. Then Arsenal produced Harry Kane.

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