Emenalo: Chelsea want to develop players for first team

Date published: Sunday 22nd November 2015 10:46

Dominic Solanke: Chelsea youngster out on loan at Vitesse Arnhem

Dominic Solanke: Chelsea youngster out on loan at Vitesse Arnhem

Michael Emenalo has defended Chelsea’s approach to youth development but admitted that many of the club’s Academy stars will not make it at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea, who currently have 33 players out on loan, have been accused of stockpiling young players with the aim not of developing them for themselves but of selling them on for huge profits.

Emenalo insists the hope is that every one of Chelsea’s young players will eventually be good enough for the first team, but he says there will be “no freebies” – the Blues will not give chances to any player until they are certain they are ready.

“We are not just packing them in and hoping a couple will make it,” Emenalo told the Sunday Telegraph. “We believe that all of them could make it but we know there are limited spaces and you have to prepare for that.”

It might be suggested that it is difficult for any young player to prove he is good enough for the Chelsea first team without being afforded the chance to actually play in it, but Emenalo says that is exactly why so many youngsters are currently out on loan.

Referring to 18-year-old Dominic Solanke, who is on loan at Vitesse Arnhem, Emenalo said: “Do you leave him here to play another year of Under-21s when he is clearly too good for it? Do you have him train with the first team and get minimal minutes?

“Do you send him to a Championship team and have him deal with balls in the air? With 35-year-olds much stronger than him in a system that does not suit the cerebral type of player we want here?

“Or do you send him to a place you know he will get minutes and will be educated the right way?”

Emenalo said of another 18-year-old, Tammy Abraham: “Should I keep him back next season just so you guys don’t criticise us for having 35 players on loan or should I allow Tammy to go somewhere and develop?

“Jose is telling me, ‘Fantastic player but he [Abraham] needs a loan’. We are not going to be afraid of these criticisms of the players out on loan because we are exactly sure of what we are doing.”

Emenalo did, however, admit that it is difficult for young players to get a chance ahead of experienced quality in their positions.

“There is a contradiction in expectations from people who don’t want the guys who are here ever to retire,” he said.

“They wanted [Frank] Lampard to play on, Ashley Cole to play on, [John] Terry to play on. Ryan Bertrand couldn’t wait so he had to leave because Ashley Cole was going nowhere. That’s one of the problems.”

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    Mark Holmes
    Mark Holmes
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    Michael Emenalo has defended Chelsea’s approach to youth development but admitted many Academy stars will not make it at Stamford Bridge.

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    #714865

    nine nine nine
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    Some wise words in there imo Mark.

    #714882
    Mark Holmes
    Mark Holmes
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    Yes, I think Chelsea’s approach in loaning out youngsters is perfectly sensible. And then, I assume, they view those players in the same way they would players at other clubs, i.e. do we want this player for our first team? Often the answer is understandably no.

    The other argument is that, with a very good player already at the club, it might be worth giving them more chances in the first team even when not quite ready as some of them may prove to be good enough given time. But Mourinho is all about the here and now, and it hasn’t served you too badly!

    #714889

    nine nine nine
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    Mark, I agree 100% with what you say above and the criticism will be there until we do actually bring one or two through from the Academy the 3 players highlighted in the article Abraham’s, Loftus Cheek and Solanke are the 3 jewels in the crown and hopefully they might come through.

    I was interested to see your Chairman highlighting the difficulties in bringing Academy players through a week or so back.

    A good article by Sam Wallace one of my favourite football journalists thanks for highlighting it its worth the full read in the S.Telegraph. Cheers 999

    #714978

    palmeab
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    Mark – among the points that you make a significant omission is the pure-and-simple issue of personal belief. There are several players in the Chelsea Academy that I, 999, liquidator and others feel are worth blooding in the League team but I would Boucher ghost our lists would be different. An example is Solanke: many see him as a Pl striker whereas I simply do not. Others say that you cannot play inexperienced youngsters but how are they to get the experience. Chelsea seem more inclined to let others make that move….and then spend (say) ££20 million to buy him. We were (apparently) happy to spend £70 million on a player not much older than the average Academy player: where is the rule that says a Messi or a Neymar cannot be born and raised in (say) Chipping Sodbury? You say that Chelsea has done well through their policy but it cost them an awful lot of money and that, basically, is the issue…..combined with what I said earlier. In my view Mourinho (and possibly others in the Chelsea heiracy) feel that a 20 year old (like say Stones) must be better than (say) Christensen because, yes, he has played in the PL but he would cost £45 million and (it follows) he must be a better bet. The argument goes that you relinquish all hope of success if you blood youngsters. Well, you can’t win every year (for us 2015/16 might be a case in point) and those are the years when trying out the young talent has credibility. Will Chelsea do that? Well, I am very old and infirm so I might be happy to hold my breath; I wouldn’t recommend that you do it! The other issue is Emenalo who, I note, is providing copy for the Telegraph. On a scale of nought to 100 my confidence in Emenalo is nearer to nought than one and the knowledge that he is involved in any way shape or form with the club I have followed for 60 years is upsetting. I hear fans carping about the abilities of real football men like Ancelotti or Ranieri but seem to be quite happy with a man who, on the face of it, has a tenth of their knowledge. I know he has the ear of Abramovich but then so did Avram Grant. I’m sorry but I do not share the acceptance which many fellow fans have of the loaning system (I described it as like the trap door in Million Pound Drop); it has produced little for us and cost us a mint of money

    #714987

    palmeab
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    Mark – the curse of predictive text. The “Boucher ghost” above is, oddly, “vouch”. Maybe I should write in a colloquial language which computers understand. I suppose “vouch” is a word from the days when the majority of our countrymen spoke English.

    #715043

    nine nine nine
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    palms, just for clarification I don’t see Dom Solanke at just turned 18 but a couple of months ago as being a PL striker especially at a club like Chelsea but I think he might have the potential and maybe the mentality to have a chance of becoming one.

    I started with a jaundiced view on Emanalo currently I am neither one thing or the other but the Owner/the Board decide the structure and they have seemingly decided that they want to have a DOF/Sporting Director in place it’s a tough position to fill especially in the PL as Daniel Comolli, Frank Arnesen and Franco Baldini will confirm and perhaps Emanalo seemingly having the owners ear is a benefit and at least we are not seeing the kind of conflicts between Manager and SD that we saw when both Arnesen and then Grant held the role.

    You cite both Ranieri and Ancelotti as real football men and they are but as far as I am aware even if Roman was looking to make a change to that position and seemingly rightly or wrongly he isn’t both Ranieri and Ancelotti are focussed on being Managers and have shown no inclination as to want to fulfill such a role just yet. Cheers 999

    #715584

    palmeab
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    999 – I think you have misunderstood my point. I was not suggesting that either Ancelotti or Ranieri would be interested in a job as Football Dircetor. My point was that in terms of sheer football knowledge and experience both our past managers leave Emenalo standing and yet it was he who is said to have been instrumental in the fall of Ancelotti and still retains the ear of the owner. I hope this comes out sounding right but, frankly, I would rather you were advising Mr Abramovich because, from your contributions on here over the years, I feel that our club would have been better served by your advice than that apparently offered in the recent past. Mind you, I think that there are one or two other thoughtful contributors who could also do the job were you to have an argument with a bus!

    #715608
    Romansdirtypants
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    I think Chelsea should look to a few strikers who’ve broken into teams at a tender young age. I can think of many from recent and yesteryear. We could look at the likes of fowler, Shearer, Owen, Kane, Walcott, Rooney, These are all strikers who broke into the top flight and have continued to score from a very young age. I would point to a certain Mr Bamford who has, like these more luminary names, scored at every level he’s played in. What he is missing is a run of games in a blue shirt, an opportunity offered to the names listed above. Unlucky with injury this season, but he’s also netted agains the big boys in the cups. Between Falcao and Bamford, who would we have rather seen in the blue shirt this season? This is where the CFC youth policy fails utterly and miserably.

    #715739

    nine nine nine
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    palmeab, ha ha if you could confirm that with Roman I would be most grateful the £2/3m a year salary would come in very useful.

    Tbh I hadn’t heard the rumour re Emanalo being instrumental in Carlo’s fall they way I heard it was that it came out of discussions on our CL exit to Inter and that Roman personally decided to sack Ancelotti because he thought him to be too soft.

    #715740

    nine nine nine
    Moderator

    Pants, I wouldn’t have been against holding on to Bamford this season and utilising him in the squad but given that he is understandably a long way away from the finished article and hadn’t played in the PL I thought a season at Palace would have done him more good worryingly though he is struggling to get a game there.

    #715750
    Romansdirtypants
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    999… He’s been injured for about ten games I think.

    #715787
    bort
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    @mark

    The only player to come good over the few years of this loan system is Courtois. I know we bought him and he isn’t technically our youth product but he makes a good example for what I’m going to say because out of all our loanee’s he is the only one that stayed at the same club on loan for an entire 4 years.

    I feel young players need nurturing so for this to happen they need to stay in stable family like environment where they can play regularly.

    Most of Chelsea loanees go on European tours, having to pick up different languages and adapt to new playing styles every season and then on top of that being away from their families. Doing this at such a young age and in the key nurturing phase of their career only hinders their development in my opinion.

    The only way for the youth set up to work at Chelsea or at any top club in England is if a structure like Barcelona’s or Bayern Munich’s, using a B team to play competitive football In the league below to nurture and mold the players into the players they want playing the style they want.

    This is why Spain and Germany are so far ahead in terms of youth development and have Superior National teams, because their top teams are aloud to nurture their youth in B teams.

    Mourinho is right when he decide to hold on to Loftus-Cheek because if he goes on loan to multiple clubs around Europe at the ages of 18, 19, 20 will only destroy his development.

    #715844

    nine nine nine
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    Pants, my understanding of the Bamford situation is that Chelsea are looking to cut it short in January due to Bamford getting almost zero game time at Palace be a bit strange of the club to do that if the lack of game time was down to injury.

    #715845

    nine nine nine
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    ….in fact Bamford is quoted in the Standard on the 30/10/2015 as saying that it is “the most upsetting times since I have been playing football to not play and sit on the bench is not enjoyable”.

    #715852

    CFC1905
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    Patrick Bamford will never play for Chelsea and personally I do not even see him as EPL class. Everyone had high hopes for him but like the vast majority of youth/academy players in ALL clubs they simply do not make the grade
    I am a big fan of our loan system and think it is the best way to allow more of the kids to gain great experience which is better than U21 games or warming the bench. We, and other clubs, can then evaluate the players and determine if any of them will make the grade and IMO a lot of whether they make it largely depends on timing. By that I mean that Bamford has had decent strikers in front of him so loaning was ideal. So far, you could say the same about Christensen but with JT having a relatively bad season he might just get an opportunity next season – right place right time. I see today more re-iterations of trying to bring the kids through and I would welcome this so long as they are good enough and we remain competitive enough in all competitions. KTBFFH

    #715866

    nine nine nine
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    CFC 1905, Morning mate I think you are probsbly right about Bamford but a player who can score 20 goals in the Championship is probably going to be worth circa £10m to a top Championship club and ultimately if that is how it works out that will be a decent return on our original investment and a further justification of the policy we are following.

    You also make an excellent point about the benefit of players going out on loan rather than playing for the U21’s when they have clearly outgrown the U21’s and don’t get any benefits or development from playing there.

    bort raises the point of a B team a La the system that is employed by both Barca and Real in La Liga and personally I think that is a good way forward not only for the clubs but for England too but it is very difficult to establish B teams in England currently for all sorts of reasons.Cheers 999

    #715919

    CFC1905
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    999 – the point I made in the earlier post about “us and other teams can evaluate players” is clearly a reference to being able to cash in on any of those who do not make the grade. IMO, Bamford has done well in the lower leagues but if Palace do not pick him (which I mentioned that Wickham is a better striker on the old Teamtalk page) then I do not see him making it in the EPL as really Wickham is also out of his depth. A shame as we see so many false dawns but if we do persevere with this policy then we will get it right and RLC looks the closest to coming through (not sure if Kenedy counts seeing as we bought him but if he does then along with Zouma we have 3 players who are progressing nicely). KTBFFH

    #715924

    Anonymous

    Its dead simple. The only way to develop players for the first team, is to keep them at the club, and play them. Its a fanciful delusion that player x will be loaned out, and develop into a great player whilst out on loan and be ready to come back and fit nicely into the first team.

    All the work, and patience needs to be done by the parent club.

    I dont think a case actually exists. So I guess the chances of it happening are almost non-existant, rather than remote.

    The idea of loaning out a player, and expecting him to come back the finished article, thus outsourcing the risk of playing young players but reaping all the reward, sounds to good to be true.

    With Emanalo being from Nigeria, I wonder what other ‘good deals’ he has got going on. As Lord Sugar said on the apprentice regarding a candidates grandiose promises. ‘I got an offer like that from Nigeria once’.

    I think your director of football is scamming you all by filling your hopes with promises he cant deliver

    #716010
    Moos
    Moos
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    whose fooling who

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