Louis van Gaal debate: Is Man Utd boss worth another year?

Date published: Tuesday 10th May 2016 8:14

Louis van Gaal: Chasing fourth spot

Louis van Gaal: Chasing fourth spot

With Manchester United still chasing a top-four Premier League finish, TEAMtalk’s journalists discuss whether a Champions League place and winning the FA Cup will be enough to save Louis van Gaal.

United’s Dutch boss has one year left on the three-year contract he signed in the summer of 2014, but there has been fevered speculation about the 64-year-old’s future with many of the tabloids claiming his reign was over on numerous occasions. The former Holland national team boss though has always stated he intends to see out his Old Trafford contract.

There have however been intense rumours suggesting that Jose Mourinho is being lined up to replace Van Gaal in the summer. Nothing has been announced by the club, and they have in fact been inconspicuously quiet over Van Gaal’s future, so much so that conflicting reports have suggested that United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward is reluctant to cut short Van Gaal’s tenure.

United will surely have to release a statement on the future of Van Gaal, probably after the FA Cup final on May 21.

 

Will Van Gaal’s future depend on a top-four finish and / or an FA Cup triumph?

Matt: You get the impression that nothing has been decided regarding Van Gaal’s future and finishing in fourth place might just sway the powers that be that Van Gaal deserves to see out his contract. I cannot see that going down too well with the majority of United fans, but that scenario is a distinct possibility. The FA Cup, I don’t think will be a factor either way, but of course Van Gaal’s position would look a lot stronger if United returned from Wembley with a trophy. I think it’s top-four or bust for Louis.

James: I think the club are desperate for him to succeed and the close bond between Woodward and Van Gaal is well documented. The United executive vice-chairman takes a helluva lot of stick from supporters, but actually he may well be proved right by hanging fire on pulling the trigger. The FA Cup will be seen as a nice bonus for United this year – but really the main measuring stick is whether they can retain their top-four place. If they do that, he may well see out the final year.

Oli: The situation surrounding Van Gaal changes from day to day. One minute you hear that he will be leaving regardless, the next minute all the reports suggest that a Champions League berth and FA Cup triumph would be enough. For me, I think United should keep him if he delivers on those two objectives. While their supporters will feel a top-four finish should have been wrapped up a long time ago, in this crazy season its all about getting the job done.

 

If Van Gaal gets the boot, who would you like to see at the helm?

Jose Mourinho: Manchester United link grows

Oli: There is only one real candidate for the job. They need someone who can walk into the club, soak up the expectations and the sheer size of the job at hand, and deliver. That man is Jose Mourinho. With a proven track record of success everywhere he has been, United would be silly to let the Special One walk away if he is as “desperate” as reported. If they were forced into a Plan B, I’d suggest Laurent Blanc.

Matt: I’d like to see Ronald Koeman given a chance at one of the big, big clubs and his efforts at Southampton certainly make him a worthy candidate in my book.

James: Koeman is a good shout, I agree, though I see him as Arsene Wenger’s successor this time next year. There’s a genuine lack of candidates out there. It wouldn’t happen, but I honestly think the club could do far worse than Manuel Pellegrini this summer if they axe LVG.

 

Conclusion: Should Van Gaal see out the final year of his contract?

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James: It’s tricky. If they seal fourth and win the FA Cup, then I’d argue ‘yes’. Although the football being played has undeniably gone backwards, it’s a results business and Van Gaal will have achieved his objectives this season if they win their last three games. In that incidence, however, I reserve the right to send him packing before Christmas next year if they make (another) early exit from the Champions League.

Oli: I genuinely think that United have already made up their mind – they want Mourinho to start in 2017/18 so LVG can see out the last year of his contract. They want to avoid wherever possible paying out the stupid sums of money they themselves agreed to, if they were to sack the Dutchman. Perhaps Van Gaal has not overachieved, in fact far from it, but the club could do with that extra year of stability to give themselves a better chance in Europe next season. Then Jose can come in and build on the foundations to really take the team to the next level.

Matt: No. Regardless of whether United finish in the top four and win the FA Cup, Van Gaal should be shown the door. If United are trying to lay the foundations of another Ferguson-like legacy then letting a 64-year-old wind down his career is not the right thing to do for the good of the club. The very fact that Van Gaal has spent the best part of £250million and United are 17 points behind the leaders is simply not good enough. They need to get someone in with a more attractive style and a long-term vision.

 

Would you axe Van Gaal? Let us know your thoughts and join in with the debate, below…

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    Matthew Briggs
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    With Man Utd still chasing a top-four spot and eyeing FA Cup glory, we discuss whether Louis van Gaal could yet see out his final year.

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    #1006406
    CM
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    Nope.

    2 years, as lot of money spent, next to nothing progress. He has laid the foundation by having some good young players, he is just the wrong man to take them to the next level. Too old fashioned, outdated philosophy and the football is stale to watch.

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    united80
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    No he’s not! He has cost how many hundreds of millions in lost revenue?, how much has he spent on new players?, and how many of them have proved successful already?. I know it will take two or three seasons for them to gel and get used to the prem league but alot of fans are already wanting some players gone because the success has not been forthcoming, as with LVG. Well done for bringing some of the youth to the fore but that is all he has done. The teams around us have not had successful seasons either so getting into the top 4 is more good fortune than merited triumphs.

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    adriansmooth
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    There’s no point in sacking Van Gaal unless there’s someone better available. Mourinho could be that one, I’m not sure after his Chelsea fiasco this season.
    Man Utd is one of the biggest jobs in football and as we saw in David Moyes, a fine manager, it can be overwhelming. Personally I would like to see Simeone or Pocchetino, but I don’t think they’re available.
    Hiring Mourinho could be a masterstroke, but it could as well be a disaster sending the club backwards way beyond what Moyes and LVG have done.

    #1006892

    For me it’s a resounding No. The football is dire, the results are mixed at best and he has squandered crazy amounts of money. I don’t care about 4th – that should have been the minimal requirement not the sum of £250m worth of talent on top of an already decent squad and on top of most of our rivals having a poorer than usual season.

    He took an attack containing RVP, Hernandez and Welbeck and sold them all and then had the audacity to blame injuries up front! It’s his fault we didn’t have a strong squad because in his eyes the above three weren’t good enough yet Fellaini up front was a better option!

    He has been abysmal as coach – forget the 4th place, forget the possible FA Cup – look at the club overall: he has spent £250m and our squad is worse and lacking much more morale than ever before – how is that good?!

    Get Mourinho in, get Koeman in… get the tea lady in! Anyone but him.

    #1006919
    ianybob
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    I really would hope not, but something needs to confirmed sooner or later.

    The football has been poor, the results mixed and ok, you could call it an odd season with Leicester winning, but we are still nearly 20points behind having spent a hell of a lot more!

    The squad hasnt been improved all that at all, and all the conflicting info regarding JM etc is clearly having an impact as Bayern have now managed to sign Renato and Hummels – players we were supposedly favorites to get!

    In all honesty i wish we had kept Moyes that bit longer

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    NorthernBahrain
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    from the outside looking in, there is a deeper problem behind the scenes at utd which i do think hinders LVG.

    from what i have seen when he has played the younger, less established players there has been a better tempo and control in the way Utd play, ok its not up there with the greats of the past but the signs are there to show there is progression and something to build on.

    however when he is required to play the old guard and/or the big money signings such as Mata, Rooney etc the play becomes slow, tiresome, laboured and depressing.

    the issue is that Utd are in the fergie transition where they are trying to get back to winning trophies. ed woodwoods business philosophy to keep making mega bucks from the “brand” of Manchester Utd (wile having a trophy less campaign) is to sign big superstar names in the galactico fashion. in which as proven over the last 2 seasons has not worked as LVG clearly did not want them or need them to improve his squad.

    for me it’s unfair to say he’s had XY&Z spent on this player or that player, as many of the signings were made and negotiated by Ed Woodwood regardless of the managers opinion. As long as ed woodwood is there, there will always be problems at the club no matter who is in the managers hot seat. you can clearly see that LVG wanted to build a squad of players slowly, using players who are ready to progress up to the next level, not so called readymade superstars that has fallen out of favour at top European clubs with massive egos.

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    yorkshireman200
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    To spend 250m and produce this dire football so consistently proves he’s a manager with an outdated “philosophy” and out of time. To go with only one striker in Rooney proves he’s either gone senile or mad in which case he should be locked away. You only have to look at what Spurs, Leicester, Liverpool have achieved to realise he’s the wrong manager.

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    redblood
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    For the love of Almighty God,how many more threads!!.

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    femoo
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    He in not worth another minute. Sucked life out of the club. Dont look forward to united games anymore

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    marktheyid65
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    I think that he’s doing a great job at Man Utd, as they WILL NOT finish in Top 4!! It may be like 1990 when Fergie was on verge of getting sacked and then won FA Cup that year. OK they did not win the Prem until 92/93 season, but they never looked back after that. It is far too easy to sack managers these days, but you can’t expect a manager to be successful immediately.

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