Red Letter: Liverpool must not fear dreaming big under Klopp

Date published: Friday 11th December 2015 9:13

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Daniel Sturridge: Injured again during disappointing week for Reds

In his weekly Liverpool blog, lifelong Reds fan Dave Tindall insists the wave of optimism surrounding the club under Jurgen Klopp mustn’t be dampened despite a disappointing week.

I wrote last week’s Red Letter, in which I suggested the title was a realistic aim for the Reds, on a wave of euphoria.

We’d just demolished Southampton 6-1 at St. Mary’s, Daniel Sturridge had returned with two lethal strikes and title talk was in the air.

This week I’ve had to witness a miserable 2-0 defeat at Newcastle and Sturridge is injured again.

Yep, football can sure kick you in the teeth.

Firstly, a response to those who chided me for even having a flickering thought about Liverpool winning the title. I’ve had comments from mates such as, “told you so, you were in dreamland” and “you jinxed it”.

Let’s deal with the latter point first. I don’t mind a bit of football-based superstition but, seriously, me having ‘title thoughts’ did not have a direct result on the outcome at Newcastle. Call me crazy, but I think us playing crap and them being arsed for once was more of a contributory factor.

Also, why is it wrong to dream? I don’t buy into this “it’s the hope that kills you” argument. I like having hope. Maybe I won’t experience it again this season but, after other results had gone our way, I went into that game against Newcastle thinking we could win the title. I never believed such a thought, however fleeting, would enter my head at any point during the 2015/16 season. I’m glad it did.

Channel 4 once did a reality TV programme called ‘Space Cadets’ where they convinced contestants that they were Britain’s first space tourists. The final three were told they had blasted off from a cosmonaut training camp in Russia although they were actually just sat in a fake spaceship in a warehouse in Suffolk.

They were later told it was a prank and they’d been set up and obviously a big thing was made of their let-down and disappointment.

However, I couldn’t help but focus on the bit of the show when they were looking back at earth from the spaceship in a state of wonder and amazement. For those moments, they genuinely believed they were in space. You can never take those feelings away from them even though reality hit them over the head later.

I wanted to ring Steven Gerrard and tell him about this after Liverpool blew the title in 2013/14. After the win over Man City and, again after the 3-2 victory at Norwich, Stevie G must have gone to bed believing he was finally going to win the title. What a feeling. He got to experience thoughts that looked as if they would forever pass him by.

Okay, it didn’t happen but surely it’s better to have revelled in the thrill of possible glory rather than never have got anywhere near it in the first place.

Anyway, this has all got a bit philosophical so let’s return to that St. James’ Park debacle.

I don’t mind saying this but I’m definitely in the ‘Jurgen got it wrong’ camp.

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There was a stat doing the rounds after the game that was both telling and depressing. Liverpool had misplaced 124 passes against Newcastle, their most in a Premier League game in any of the last five seasons! Anyone who watched the game won’t have been surprised by it.

To Klopp’s credit, he smacked of a man who knew his system for that particular game hadn’t worked but, hey, these are early days. There are bound to be unexpected bumps in the road like this as he settles in.

But, despite everything going wrong – “better you lose a bad game than (play well and lose) a good game,” he said wisely – how refreshing to see him smile and congratulate Steve McClaren BEFORE the full-time whistle rather than head off down the tunnel afterwards in a Wenger/Mourinho/Ferguson huff. He’s a class act our boss.

Ironically, in a difficult week for Liverpool fans, it was Sir Alex Ferguson who offered a welcome reminder about how lucky we are to have the German and the positive future Klopp threatens (deliberate choice of word given the ex-Man Utd manager’s perspective) to bring to Anfield.

“He’s a fantastic personality, with those big white teeth always showing,” said Ferguson. “I know him quite well from the coaching seminars. He’s going to make a difference at that club with his personality, drive and knowledge. Things are looking up there.

“I’m worried about him because the one thing United don’t want is Liverpool to get above us.”

Pluses from the Sion bore draw

As for the here and now, I’m writing this just moments after the non-entity of a game in Sion; the dullest of 0-0 draws played out on a pitch resembling a cow field.

Almost nothing happened in Switzerland but here are 5 facts: 1) Brad Smith did well, 2) Firmino wasn’t any good again, 3) It was cold, 4) No-one got injured, 5) They played Status Quo at the end of the match.

 

How will Liverpool do under Jurgen Klopp this season?

  • Top four
  • Top six
  • Seventh
  • Eighth
  • Top 10
  • Bottom-half finish

 

Of course, that result maintained the status quo in the group with Liverpool starting the night in top spot and ending it that way. The opposition was poor but to go through the six games unbeaten was a decent effort. I definitely believe that, with Klopp in charge, we can do something big in this competition this season.

However, having failed to see Liverpool score in 180 minutes of action this week, I’m desperate to see the net ripple on Sunday.

There’s a snag though. The visitors this weekend are West Brom and they’re managed by Tony Pulis.

Pulis has been something of a thorn in our side down the years. On three separate occasions during his Stoke tenure he bought the Potters to Anfield and went away with a ‘mission accomplished’ stamp on his baseball cap after watching his team hold out for a 0-0 draw.

He’s got West Brom playing the same way and a glance at the Premier League table shows that no side have conceded fewer goals away from home this season.

Add in our results after Europa League games – 1-1, 1-1, 1-1, 1-2, 1-0 – and everything screams ‘difficult afternoon’.

Still, as the Newcastle game showed, nothing is predictable in football so maybe Christian Benteke will power us to a 3-0 victory before Monday’s Europa League draw pairs us with Klopp’s former club Borussia Dortmund (yes, it’s a possible scenario) in the last 32.

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    James Marshment
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    In his weekly Liverpool blog, Reds fan Dave Tindall says the wave of optimism under Jurgen Klopp mustn’t be dampened despite a poor week.

    [See the full post at: Red Letter: Liverpool must not fear dreaming big under Klopp]

    #733916

    nine nine nine
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    I am not sure that even the Liverpool posters on here want a weekly blog of Liverpool positivity especially if it includes talk of a title win!

    #734069

    Paxman
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    999 – You a right we are a pessimistic bunch 🙂 Strangely enough though it seems most are pessimistic in the short term, but long term we all firmly believe we will be back challenging for titles on a regular basis at some point in the near future.

    #734081
    SensibleS7
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    Generally speaking, we are steering in the right direction. Klopp joined us at a good time ahead what I believe to be one of the critical periods of the season.

    He’s had more than half a dozen games under his belt and we are still in the League Cup as well as qualifying for phase 2 of the Europa.

    Obviously, some areas still need working on concerning our league form and being able to win more matches at home, but of course, it’s early days and he’s effectively working with an inherited squad.

    I’m personally taking it game by game and hopefully, we can get through Christmas and be in a healthy position to challenge for 4th come January.

    Cheers

    #734147

    Paxman
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    Sensible – Yes an inherited squad, but one that he told the owners he was happy with, and crucially with three players we wanted to sign when at Dortmund. I don’t see many additions come January

    #734156
    SensibleS7
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    We had the best window when it came to January when Dalglish signed Craig Bellamy on the final day.

    We’re not going to get that type of window again (for now).

    The summer one will be the main one and an exciting one too as it will be coinciding with Euro 16 and naturally, some players will shine.

    Still need to tidy up properly the squad as a whole, and that means making firm settlements on the players who’ve been loaned out.

    #734180

    Paxman
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    Still don’t expect marquee signings, that is not Klopps style.

    #734360

    nine nine nine
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    I am sure one of the attractions of Klopp to the owners is his record of buying players for minimal fees and developing them into top players he had a good record of doing that at Dortmund if he can repeat that at Liverpool everybody will be happy but its not an easy thing to do otherwise everybody would be doing it.

    I think Pax is right it is unlikely that Liverpool will be in for marquee signings without they sell say Coutinho to fund it.

    #734765
    Sanj1
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    Wash your mouth out nine, sell Coutinho! He’s our main man. Cheers 😀

    #734864
    MrMakaveli
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    That’s the problem. We can’t be enthusiastic and mention the word title without people saying “They think they’re going to win it”, so you’ll find that most Liverpool fans prefer to stay away from any talk. The problem is, we’ve not won it in a long time and over the years we’ve had some good teams and some really huge stars who’ve nearly got us there but just not quite.

    Title talk or no title talk, we should have beaten Newcastle but we didn’t because we didn’t play well enough. Why should we be afraid of West Brom’s away record? We should beat them too and if we don’t then we don’t have West Brom to Blame, we have Liverpool.

    #734909

    nine nine nine
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    sanji, out of choice I don’t think Liverpool would look to sell Coutinho but he is now your most saleable asset and probably the only way that Liverpool could create the funds to buy a marquee player next summer.

    Will it happen? Only if Barca or Real come in strong for him and offer silly money and he pushes to go. Sadly whether it be Coutinho at Liverpool or Hazard at Chelsea everyone has a price.Cheers 999

    #737930

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    999 – To be fair with the money now involved I think most teams in the top 8 or so would find it in their budget to make a 50M signing even without selling players, although that would probably be the whole transfer kitty gone on one player.

    #738032

    nine nine nine
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    paxman, true enough mate probably only United and Arsenal could spend £50m without selling a player or two.

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    Sanj1
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    nine, at Dortmund Jurgen was forced to sell his best players & it ultimately stopped them deposing Bayern as the dominant club in the Bundesliga. I would be concerned if Fenway looked to do the same thing & make a profit on players ahead of silverware. The days of selling our best players should be at an end & Jurgen said Sterling should be the last to want to leave. He wants to create a club players wish to sign for & stay at. Cheers 🙂

    #738632

    nine nine nine
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    sanji, I am not saying you will or should sell Coutinho mate just that if Liverpool are going to make a marquee signing it will probably have to be part funded by player sales and Coutinho is currently your most saleable asset. Cheers 999

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    Sanj1
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    Maybe nine, but hopefully not. Cheers 🙂

    #738881

    Paxman
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    999 – You misread my post, I think most teams in the top half could spend 50M without selling as the money has increased so much, but that would indeed be the extent of their budget. Utd, City and Chelsea could spend far more if they wanted.

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