Ref Review: Southampton robbed; Arsenal wasted gift

Date published: Monday 23rd November 2015 2:42

Santi Cazorla: Missed penalty for Arsenal at West Brom

Santi Cazorla: Missed penalty for Arsenal at West Brom

Southampton were the only team to suffer from a major refereeing mistake over the weekend, according to our Ref Review panel.

Refereeing decisions are regularly the source of debate among fans, pundits, players and managers so this season a five-strong TEAMtalk panel will be passing judgement on every red card (or avoidance of one), every penalty and any other major incident every weekend.

We’ll also keep a tally of the major decisions to go for and against each team in an attempt to settle the never-ending debate about whether certain clubs are favoured more than others by Premier League referees.

Week 13

Watford penalty v Manchester United: There was no debate about this one – Marcos Rojo undoubtedly took down Odion Ighalo from behind inside the box. Verdict: Correct decision

Norwich City penalty appeal v Chelsea: Alex Neil was convinced Norwich should have had a penalty when Willian bundled over Robbie Brady, but four out of five on our panel felt it would have been incredibly soft if awarded. Verdict: Correct decision

Chelsea penalty appeal v Norwich City: Chelsea also appealed for a penalty when Diego Costa was held by Sebastien Bassong, but nobody on the panel felt it was enough to warrant a spot-kick. Verdict: Correct decision

Jamie Vardy goal v Newcastle United: There were suggestions that Vardy’s opening goal for Leicester should have been ruled out for offside, but replays showed only his arm was beyond the last defender. Verdict: Correct decision

Robert Huth shove on Aleksandar Mitrovic: If spotted, a firm referee might have shown Huth a straight red card for shoving Mitrovic in the throat, but our panel believe a boking would have been suffice. Verdict: Correct decision (not to send him off)

Southampton penalty appeal v Stoke City: This was one of the easiest calls of the weekend, yet Lee Mason got it wrong. Philipp Wollscheid got nowhere near the ball when attempting to clear, instead hacking down Graziano Pelle, and Southampton can only wonder how Mason did not see it. Verdict: Incorrect decision

Swansea City penalty v Bournemouth: This was by far the most debatable call of the weekend. Simon Francis admitted to making contact with Andre Ayew, but the Swansea forward only fell over after clipping his own heels. But would that have happened were it not for Francis’ touch beforehand? Three to two argued ‘no’. Verdict: Correct decision

Swansea City penalty v Bournemouth: This was by far the most debatable call of the weekend. Simon Francis admitted to making contact with Andre Ayew, but the Swansea forward only fell over after clipping his own heels. But would that have happened were it not for Francis’ touch beforehand? Three to two argued ‘no’.   Verdict: Correct decision

West Brom first goal v Arsenal: There will be some – there was one on our panel, in fact – that believe James Morrison’s goal should have been ruled out because of Jonas Olsson’s holding and blocking as Chris Brunt’s free-kick was swung on, but a strong majority felt it was correctly allowed to stand after some standard tussling. Verdict: Correct decision

Arsenal penalty v West Brom: Chris Brunt argued “justice was done” after Santi Cazorla missed the penalty awarded for his pull on Alexis Sanchez. Three out of five on our panel agreed with the West Brom man, arguing it was more of a coming together than anything else and that, crucially, Sanchez would not have got to the ball in any case. Verdict: Inorrect decision

Liverpool first goal v Manchester City: Bacary Sagna felt he was fouled by Philippe Coutinho in the build-up to Liverpool’s opener at the Etihad Stadium, but nobody on our panel agreed with the Manchester City full-back. Verdict: Correct decision

For and Against

Team For Against Total For/Against
1. Leicester Eight Two +6
2. Liverpool Six One +5
3. Arsenal Six Three +3
4. Man City Five Three +2
5. Man Utd Two None +2
6. Newcastle Four Two +2
7. Tottenham Three One +2
8. Watford Two None +2
9. Aston Villa None One -1
10. Chelsea Four Five -1
11. Everton None One -1
12. Crystal Palace One Two -1
13. Stoke Two Three -1
14. Sunderland One Two -1
15. Norwich None Two -2
16. Swansea One Two -2
17. West Ham One Four -3
18. Southampton One Five -4
19. West Brom One Five -4
20. Bournemouth None Six -6

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  • #715573
    Mark Holmes
    Mark Holmes
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    Southampton were the only team to suffer from a major refereeing mistake over the weekend, according to our Ref Review panel.

    [See the full post at: Ref Review: Southampton robbed; Arsenal wasted gift]

    #715611
    the specialone
    the specialone
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    TT – Do yourself a favour and stop with these weekly ref reviews because they’re getting embarrassing.They’re just opinions like we have.How was foul on sanchez not a penalty?
    He was literally holding him back and trust me sanchez would have got to the ball.
    Also,arteta as useless as he is didn’t foul the player which led to the free kick for westbrom’s first goal,go watch the replay again clearly gets the ball.Arsenal should have retaken their penalty because there were 2 westbrom players ran into the box before cazorla even began his run up to the missed penalty.I mean why do you guys fail to look at these type of things.”Oh big team,Let’s find every decision and manipulate it against them”.Is that how you lot think?

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    Johnny Utah
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    The ref gave a free to West Brom at the penalty because Cazorla touched the ball twice which is the right decision, I think.

    #715722
    Mark Holmes
    Mark Holmes
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    thespecialone, we have five people give an opinion every week to make sure there’s no bias, which might be the case were, say, an Arsenal fan debating a penalty for his team.

    #715735

    Lilywhite
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    I like this new feature. (Its the only change I do like)
    I am interested why some decisions are excluded an others are included?
    For example:
    The Arsenal penalty is in, but the west ham offside is not.(when they hit the bar, 2 yards offside) Both did not lead to a goal, and neither affected the result, both wrong decisions could have been decisive.

    #715813
    the specialone
    the specialone
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    Homzy – Yeah well cleary your team isn’t credible.Read my post regarding the decisions.You simply ignore ones you don’t want to take into account.Finding it a feature just for the sake of it.I’ve found mistakes in those articles every week but don’t have the time to come on and argue about them.

    #715828

    NorthernBahrain
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    not being funny but this isn’t a ref panel that truly represents the officiating in the game it represents decisions that could have or in fact changed the game. furthermore the ref review panels in the UK are made up by former referees who look at the overall decisions made not just the ones that have key moments. what ticks me off more is teams outside the top 6 moaning about how all the big clubs getting the big decisions but fail to look at how subjective officiating benefits them. the most inconsistent form of bookings is accumulation of fouls and i will grantee that Matic, Lucas, Carrick, Coccelein and fernandiniho get booked far more easily for accumulation than Charlie Adam, Cattermol, whitehead (when he was in the prem) and Virgini. trust me players at top clubs will only be allowed 4 accumulations before they are booked. i have seen matches where Adam and Virgini have gone up to 7 fouls (with a couple that are debatable bookings) before they even receive a Yellow… every time i see Adam play there is always a thought the he is one tackle away from a Yellow or one tackle away from a sending off and yet he managed to get a way with both on many occasions… im sorry the media always draws attention to the big clubs getting the “Highlighted” Game Changing decisions instead of evaluating the facts. The reality is British style refereeing enables the clubs outside the top 6 to have 11 men on the pitch and play a more competitive game which makes it the most competitive league in Europe. i would love to see an experiment where Spanish referees manage EPL games for one week to see how their take on the game affects the less technical players. i would grantee we would have the highest number of bookings and red cards in a single match week.

    #715832
    whoisbeni
    whoisbeni
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    Thespecialone should just sign off with “it’s just not fair!!” – sounds like a petulant teenager

    #715835

    Anonymous

    It bears no significance because the penalty was missed. But Sanchez was rugby tackled inside the box whilst he was making an effort to get to a cross. It was a penalty everyday of the week.

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    Florin Cojanu
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    TheSpecialOne highlights Arsenal problems in game, but NorthernBahrain sums up the bigger picture.
    This is a nice topic, but what’s the point of it if it’s not fair ?
    Let’s say that it was not a penalty against Sanchez who probably went down dragging Brunt with him. I could be ok with that. But if this is not a penalty how can Arteta sliding tackle can be a foul ?
    There was another foul just like the Sanchez penalty but on Giroud. There was no debate about it despite the fact it was almost identical with the penalty.
    So again, I ask you TeamTalk, what’s the point if it isn’t fair ? You just want to express your point of view about some incidents ?

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