Wayne Rooney debate: Should England take him to Euro 2016?

Date published: Wednesday 27th April 2016 8:41

Wayne Rooney: Fit for the Euros or not?

Wayne Rooney: Fit for the Euros or not?

With Wayne Rooney’s position in the England side coming under scrunity, TEAMtalk’s journalists discuss whether England should take him to Euro 2016 and how he could fit into Roy Hodgson’s side.

Despite taking his place in the history books this season by becoming England’s all-time record goalscorer, the Manchester United captain finds his place in the side coming under fresh debate after the exploits of Harry Kane and Jamie Vardy, while the likes of Daniel Sturridge, Danny Welbeck, Andy Carroll and Rooney’s Manchester United team-mate Marcus Rashford provide further competition.

With Hodgson set to announce his squad for the finals on May 12, we debate whether Rooney will get the chance to add to the 51 goals he has scored for the Three Lions…

 

Can Rooney still consider himself first choice?

James: For me, no. England showed in the recent game in Germany that they simply don’t need him anymore. Whilst there’s no doubting his ability, the game has changed since he made his name and his style of play simply slows England down. Kane would be first choice for me and if we’re playing on the break and sitting deep, Vardy could be a very potent weapon this summer.

Matt: It may have been a job for Hodgson to fill in the blanks around Rooney over the last few years, but not anymore. He is by no means a first choice for England in attack. Hodgson simply has several other better options in forward areas.

Oli: This is potentially unchartered territory for Rooney, as he certainly isn’t the first choice leading England’s line in the upcoming Euros. For me, Harry Kane is the best option to start up top, with Jamie Vardy and Daniel Sturridge as bench option that arguably lend more to the style Roy Hodgson should be enforcing. I don’t see Rooney as first choice for any position.

Rob: Certainly not as a striker. Harry Kane and Jamie Vardy are obviously more dangerous options up front, while there is an argument Daniel Sturridge’s recent performances suggest he is also a more effective option. Personally, the victory over Germany should be Roy Hodgson’s blueprint for the Euros – Kane to start, with Vardy used as an impact substitute.

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So, rank England’s top-four strike options in order

Matt: Kane, Sturridge, Vardy, Welbeck. Kane will be the first man on the team sheet and rightfully so because of his all round ability. Sturridge would be a very interesting strike partner for the Tottenham man, if he can stay fit, but his recent injury record suggests he could easily be a non-starter. His apparent unwillingness to play through the pain barrier is also a concern, but if he is fit those two would be my preferred starting pair in France with Vardy and Welbeck on the bench.

Rob: Kane has shown over the last two seasons that he is the perfect frontman to lead the line, given his ability to go beyond defenders as well as link up play with the midfield. Vardy can be a devastating threat off the bench, and would allow England to step up a gear against tiring defenders. Rooney is perhaps just ahead of Sturridge given his international record and experience, although that is a close call. I wouldn’t take Andy Carroll, and while Danny Welbeck is technically a striker, the Arsenal man is first choice for a wide spot.

Oli: Kane has shown us this season that he is the real deal, and he is the best strike option for England. Vardy, as mentioned, is a good option to have off the bench and comes in second. Sturridge and Rooney are fighting for the third spot, though I would give it to Rooney purely because he offers something slightly different and can slow play down well. Sturridge a close fourth.

James: For me, Kane should be first choice. If Sturridge is fit, I’d love to see him start. After that I’d have Vardy as an option from the bench. I’ll probably get slaughtered for this, but I’d actually have Andy Carroll (if fit) as a fourth-choice striker just because he can do what very few other players ca

Could Rooney do a job in another position?

Oli: Although we have seen him drop into midfield for United when needed, and he has generally performed the role well, there is no point forcing him into the line-up just for the sake of it. The central midfield positions for England should be a choice between the likes of Henderson (if fit), Alli, Dier, Milner and maybe even Drinkwater. Perhaps an attacking midfield role or a role just off the number nine could suit Rooney, though there are very specific circumstances where that would be needed and would be the best option.

Rob: He could, as his technical ability is among the best in the country, but I believe shoehorning him into midfield would be to the detriment of the rest of the team. The most impressive part of the performance against Germany was the relentless pressing of the opposition and the energy of the front five, which allowed England to win the ball high up the pitch – with Eric Dier holding everything together. Rooney simply cannot replicate the intense harrying of Kane, Welbeck, Adam Lallana, Dele Alli and Jordan Henderson (who would be replaced by James Milner if injured).

James: Not for me, no. We’ve seen him drop into midfield before and while he can play there to good affect – as proven in the FA Cup semi-final against Everton – the system England play means he couldn’t play in a deep role. As far as I’m concerned, his only chance is if England play some kind of three-pronged attack and he takes one of the wider attacking roles, but even then I’d prefer other options.

Matt: I definitely think he could become a key part of successful England side at the Euros in a midfield role and that’s where Hodgson should use him. The problem with his inclusion would be that Hodgson would definitely have to balance the side with at least one sitting, defensive midfielder and possibly two. With that in mind could he then include Dele Alli in the same line-up? Alli should be a definite starter if he’s fit, and if it came to a choice between Alli or Rooney, then the former would get my vote.

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Conclusion – should Rooney go?

Rob: Despite all I have written, if I was in Hodgson’s shoes I would still take Rooney to France. His international record is impressive and his experience will be crucial among such a young squad. He shouldn’t start, but if England need an assured presence if things aren’t going to plan, he could still be important.

Matt: There’s been a lot written about Rooney and how England can cope without him this summer and that may well prove to be the case, but he’s still a must in the squad. A squad without Rooney would be a poorer one. He lead the side in a 100 per cent qualifying campaign and scored seven times and his influence off the field will be as crucial as it will be on it. At 30, this may be his last major tournament and he might well just be saving himself for one final hurrah.

James: I’m struggling to make a case for him. His record speaks for itself, but truth be told, England didn’t miss him recently and there are better players around. It’d be a huge sensation, but Roy needs to show some balls, avoid sentimentality and leave him at home.

Oli: Even though recent performances from England have shown we are more than equipped to cope without the captain, I still think he should go purely because of the experience he provides. He will be a good player to bring of the bench when the time is right, and will be a good senior head off the field to help mentor the young squad.

 

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    James Marshment
    James Marshment
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    With Wayne Rooney’s position in the England side under scrunity, TEAMtalk’s staff discuss whether England should take him to Euro 2016.

    [See the full post at: Wayne Rooney debate: Should England take him to Euro 2016?]

    #983971
    banjo_chuckers
    banjo_chuckers
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    Jimbo… you know that we’ve done this to death already, right? 🙂

    #983983
    steveosnakeeye
    steveosnakeeye
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    no we shouldnt

    #983986
    steveosnakeeye
    steveosnakeeye
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    banjo…slow news day

    #983989
    banjo_chuckers
    banjo_chuckers
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    Hey Stalker… that was quick even by your standards… 🙂

    #984085
    steveosnakeeye
    steveosnakeeye
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    what can i say slow day at work too, and this board has an end of season feel, 3 days left in me current job and way to much time on me hands, saying that, unlikely i can post on here n me new job so you will find a new admirer 😛

    #984226
    redblood
    redblood
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    It`s been done to death James,you guys at the TT tower,are officially lazy.Lol

    #984265
    steveosnakeeye
    steveosnakeeye
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    when the squad is announced we should do a who would you swap article, one player in and out of the squad……

    #984514
    redblood
    redblood
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    Gaitan to United yet????.Now,Lampard or Gerrard…..

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    homerjay540
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    I’d play 4-3-3 Kane upfront, Welbeck and Sterling on the wing, Dier or Drinkwater as holding mid with Rooney partnered by either Barkley or Ali in the middle. Good mix of youth, experience, strength and pace. Obviously Vardy would be first attaching sub, but my wildcard would be Carroll. He looks like he’s back to his best form, something we haven’t seen since he left Newcastle, and on his day is almost impossible to defend against.

    #984946

    I’d take Rooney to Euro 2016. He may not be what he was and he may not be in the best form but he remains a maverick and an ace up the sleeve of the England team. Whether in midfield or up front, he can still do a job IF his head is right for it. I think the decreased expectations on him will help him too.

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    homerjay540
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    @sympathy, completely agree re decreased expectations. This will be his first tournament for England where the weight of the country is NOT on his shoulders and I think we’ll see a different side to him.
    A bit like when Giggs suffered a dip in performance when he had to change his game from being pace driven to being more calculated and intellegent on the ball, i think Rooney can and will modify his game and continue being an important player for England for France and Russia 2018.

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    redblood
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    Rooney shouldn`t be anywhere the WC in 2018,this should be his last major tournament.

    #985486

    janesill
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    Roy Hodgson should avoid taking Rooney to euro 2016 this summer. The only way England are going to make it to quarter-finals is by solid defense.

    #986713
    evratime
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    I don’t think there is a debate to be had. He will go. He is the captain, and it seems incredibly unlikely that the manager will pick a new captain just weeks before the team meet up and travel.

    On merit, he shouldn’t go. Vardy and Kane have out performed him as a centre forward. Sturridge’s fitness is a question-mark but he scores nearly every game. Roy loves Welbeck and will take him for that wide left position.

    As a #10, Alli is a top performer, and Barkley whilst inconsistent is a great option to have. Rooney has experience and is still a decent player, but I’d still pick Alli ahead of him, and it’s a toss up between him and Barkley.

    I wouldn’t want Rooney in deep central midfield, even though that is England’s weakest area.

    I don’t know where he fits, and he probably shouldn’t fit anywhere, but I am certain he’ll be there, somewhere. It will probably be his last tournament though. England made a huge mistake keeping Gerrard and Lampard involved too long. They just can’t do it again with Rooney.

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    NotoriousBingo
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    You can´t find a reason he should go besides he is captain, is he a good captain?

    Spain dropped Raul, Germany dropped Ballack, Italy dropped Totti.

    #987025

    Johnny Utah
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    Am I the only one who thinks bringing Rooney off the bench with 20 minutes to go would be a nice option to have? Hopefully Roy has a spine and does not take him as an automatic starter.

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    Rover Bond
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    no and definitely not as a starter, at the most as a back up for the likes of Kane and co. but his had his best days, never was going to be a long life footballer

    #987448
    banjo_chuckers
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    We all know he’s going to go, that’s a gimme, but he mustn’t start the first game under any curcimstances. I do strongly believe a pissed off Rooney with a point to prove could be invaluable but if he starts, he’ll fall straight back into his comfort zone and England will go nowhere. He needs to know he is dropable (talking about it to the press is one thing, but it has to be shown!).

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