Carl Jenkinson

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    Al The Gooner
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    Something that seems to have gone under the radar – or perhaps, no one cares – is that Carl Jenkinson is on the verge of a permanent move to Palace.

    I’ve always liked the guy and not just because he’s a born-and-bred Gooner. Yeah, he’s had some poor games for us, but he’s had some pretty solid ones too.

    If it’s Jenks decision to go, I get it. Bellerin is more or less undroppable and if he wants his career to progress, moving to another club makes sense but if it’s Wenger’s decision, then it’s just another example of a player he never really gave a chance to.

    #1418985
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    Nice enough lad but not good enough for us even as a reserve player.

    I feel he’s in a similar mould to a previous right back that we also got rid of, his name was eboue.

    If both players had applied themselves a bit more and cut out the larking around then their respective careers would have probably lasted a little bit longer.

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    I don’t think you can say either was Larking About and Eboue was nothing like Jenkinson ??? In the end Wenger just didn’t fancy him I don’t think he was that bad he has had some really good games for us and I know some poor and at West ham his first loan he was great. I am gutted for him, as he will be gutted to leave but I wish him all the best and he is a genuine Gooner!

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    I really wanted him to do well, he is a proper arsenal fan – who wouldn’t, but I just don’t think he is up to standard. The hammering he got from fans this season was unfair as he was coming back from injury but he was having a shocker. He has had a few good games but quite a few nightmares as well and ultimately he didn’t take the chances given. I wish him all the best good luck Jenko!

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    Jenkinson is a far better bet at right back than the hapless Gabriel who is totally useless and a liability. As Al says, a born and bred Gooner who hasn’t been given a real run in the side to prove what he’s capable of. Another example of Wenger’s complete lack of any idea when it comes to defending.

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    Hi Al

    Its impossible not to like Jenks. Arsenal to the core but for me, wasn’t ever to be a top level player. He did have some cracking games for us but always has a big clanger in him as well.
    He has had a rough ride since coming back from his injury but to be honest, I think he would have been thinking about leaving long before that. As much as he loves the club, he has seen Bellerin, who is 3 years younger, nail down that position. Carl is good enough to play regular football in a PL side but he was never going to oust Hector and he will know he can’t develop his game fully sitting on the bench every week.

    Absolutely wish him all the best and hopefully he will stay in the league and get a good shot at it

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    Jenkisnon has been given plenty of chances to prove his worth, sadly for him, he’s not up to the required standard. Bellerin is miles ahead of him, and Jenkinson should not be allowed anywhere near our first team.

    He doesn’t strike me as someone who is serious enough about playing for us, i keep hearing he’s a gooner through and through but all you ever see him do is fool about. He doesn’t come across as someone who is serious about playing for his boy hood team.

    Time will prove me right, but i think the only regrets in this story will come from jenkinson, arsenal certainly won’t be bothered about letting him go.

    #1419650
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    TTG, he’s made 38 appearances for us in 6 seasons (just over 6 appearances per season) which I don’t really see as a huge number myself.

    Seasoned pros need more time than that to settle, so what chance is there for a kid that never gets a decent run?

    Of course Bellerin is a far better player, but we still need back-up and out of all the players we have who can fill in for Hector when he’s injured, I’d rate Jenks as high as any of them.

    He’s had some very good games for us, so the talent is definitely there.

    I would like to know why you mean when you say he doesn’t appear serious enough – what are you basing that on?

    It’s probably all moot now anyway – sounds like the deal to Palace has fallen through.

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    Just my perception Al, watching him in interviews he seems to come across as someone who doesn’t take life too seriously.

    You say he’s played 38 games over 6 seasons, dont forget a lot of those games eould hsvf come in a consecutive run of games.

    I think its untrue to say he hasn’t been given enough opportunity to prove himself.

    Bellerin proved himself after 5 games snd was established as out number 1 after his first season ended.

    That in my opinion is the difference

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    No one is suggesting that Jenks is a candidate to be first choice but he is the best stand in we have. He has never had any sort of game time and he has never been allowed a consistent run of games. I’d sooner have him standing in for hector than the useless Gabriel who really is a disaster waiting to happen whenever he plays for us.

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    Maybe he doesn’t want to be back up? Al those stats are misleading and I think you know that – two of the seasons he wasn’t even at the club! The fact is he has played games but hasn’t taken his chance, he is not going to get in front of Bellerin and needs game time. Everyone would have loved him to have made it but to say he hasn’t had chances is wrong in my opinion – put it this way he had as many if not more chances as Bellerin and Bellerin took his.

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    exactly fatmop. He started playing in the team before bellerin broke through, if he was playing well enough he would have stayed in the team.

    Jenkinson needs to move on, he needs to play first team football. I wish him the best for his future but i think he needs to move on now.

    #1419956
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    Fatmop, my apologies – if you take off two seasons, that makes an average of about 9 games per season, out of 60-odd. Glad you pulled me up on such a gross exaggeration! 😉

    Returning to my earlier point, we’re never going to keep a world-class RB happy as 2nd choice to Bellerin and Jenks, IMO, is as decent back-up as anyone we have at the club.

    Maybe he’s not happy as 2nd choice, which is fair enough, but I hope Wenger is doing everything he can to try and keep him.

    We’re far more likely to keep a Gooner happy, if he’s not playing regularly, than someone with no connection to the club.

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    This is one of the reasons I don’t think our squad is a great as some people seem to have convinced themselves it is. Neither of our keepers are really top drawer, Cech is going backwards and Ospina is error prone. As per this thread we have Bellerin who is top drawer but is still a problem defensively and the stand in is Gabriel who is poor full stop. neither left back is good enough for Arsenal and in the centre of defence we have Koscielny who is decent but the wrong side of 30, Mustafi who is adequate and then nothing, Mertesacker, Gabriel, Holding. Defensively we are weak, very weak. In midfield we have far too many similar players and Wenger cannot get the balance right. Up front it’s mix and match with Sanchez/Walcott/Giroud/Perez, 3 of them are front men with Giroud the only genuinely orthodox striker. Too may fail to see the weak areas, including Wenger.

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    Fact is though Al he has played and to be brutally honest not well enough. If he stayed and continued getting the odd game do you think he would get better or go backwards? Not playing is not going to help him, its a shame but he is not at the standard we need, who knows with the deal to palace looking to collapse he may play again but I doubt it.

    Oracle – what do you mean ‘this is one of the reasons’ you don’t think the squad is good enough? – the fact that Jenkinson can’t get in team? Surely thats the opposite. As a group I think we have the best defenders in the league. We have the best right back and I would not swap are centre backs as a group for any other premiership team. Who has better? Who has more depth?

    #1420794
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    fat mop, you’re not reading properly. What I said was the squad isn’t good enough because we have ONE right back that’s good enough. Neither Jenkinson, Chamber or Holding have proved good enough and we now find that our reserve right back in Gabriel who is a useless central defender. We don’t have any decent left backs and we have only two passable central defenders. It’s quite clear.

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    Clear questions then – which team has better fullbacks? Which team has better centre backs? Who has better defenders’ as a group than us? I think as a squad we have the most depth and the best defenders – I wouldn’t want to swap.

    #1420872
    Al The Gooner
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    Fatmop – “we have the most depth and the best defenders”. Jenkinson is part of that depth.

    Gabriel has done alright at RB, but I would have preferred seeing Jenks there.

    #1420938

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    Agreed. But I feel without Jenkinson across the defence we still have the most depth and the best right back. Having Bellerin, debuchy, Maitland-Niles and Gabriel is fine.

    Look, I would have liked to keep Jenkinson too but the fact is he is never going to be first choice and would only go backwards as second choice, even if was happy to do so.

    #1420970
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    Debuchy, Maitland-Niles and Gabriel is fine!!!!! Please, you cannot be serious. Spurs have a far better defence than we do, so to Chelsea and Man Utd. Our defence and the goals we concede form set pieces hasp laughed us for years and Wenger still doesn’t understand. Anyone who thinks Gabriel is the answer doesn’t understand the question.

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