Sergio Ramos

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  • #957983

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    I see today we are linked with Sergio Ramos

    Initially I am thinking this is far fetched and not likely to happen. However, if Hazard is on his way then possibly a player exchange plus cash could be on the cards#

    So I guess the next question would be is do we actually want Ramos..?

    Having given this some thought I think I would take him. He is vastly experienced at domestic, European and international level which should surely only benefit our team/squad. He is a leader on the pitch and we will need someone like him to replace JT even if JT stays for another year to assist in the handover

    I accept that at times he is rash and prone to being sent off but he wears his heart on his sleeve and if we could get half the commitment that he has shown to Real over his time there then on balance I think he would be an asset (assuming there is any grain of truth to the rumour of course). KTBFFH

    #958463

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    1905, Ramos has only just turned 30 and is a Captain and a leader and a very good player too who could well lead the Chelsea on the pitch over the next 4/5 seasons and because of his stature in the game all the Chelsea players would look up to him.

    Based on the above he would make an ideal replacement for JT if he leaves in the summer and imo we need a mix of good experienced players alongside some of the younger players.

    However Ramos is the heartbeat of Real Madrid who fought very hard to keep him away from United last summer and Ramos only signed a new improved 5 year contract less than 9 months ago.

    I can’t see it happening but if Conte wants him and can get him I would be supportive of that. Cheers 999

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    aindro
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    999 I see the contrary of your view: Ramos is already 30 and his salary is high. I believe we should avoid this kind of old players. We need a captain who grows with the club: Wise, Terry for example.
    I really don’t want to see Ramos at Chelsea. Spain old international on our flank, we’ve seen Ferrer and can’t say he was a big success. Azpi is on the other way around: he established himself with Chelsea and then became Spain international

    #958532

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    Aindro, Ramos according to the salary leaks if accurate earns considerably less than JT currently does so I’m not sure that would be a major problem. Signing a player who is 30 and giving him a 4/5 year contract would be a potential problem for the club.

    Bertie did a good job for Chelsea imo and at £2.2m was a bargain buy, that would not be the case with Ramos and personally whilst I would fully back the Managers judgement on this I wouldn’t want us paying silly money for Ramos.

    I don’t think it will happen anyway.

    #959006
    suarezsteeth
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    Hope u don’t mind me chipping in on this one. I’m not impressed with Ramos tbh. He’s always struck me as a bit of a dirty player (just look at his shoddy display in El Classico), and if you get the lad from Roma,I don’t even think you’ll need him anyway. He’s gonna come in on big wages,and if Terry stays,you’d think he’d play most weeks,alongside Zouma,who I think is a really good player,or Manolas,so where would Ramos fit in? Gary Cahill is another player he’d have to displace,and also John Stones,if that move finally comes about. He could play at full back I suppose,but I think you already have better full backs at the club already

    #959249

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    s/t, always good to see you on here my friend.

    This is the silly season for transfer rumours and Ramos to Chelsea is based on a rumour out of Spain and we know how accurate they can be and is much more unlikely than likely imo.

    But you just never know in football and if Conte really wanted him and Chelsea could buy him for less than silly money it’s not impossible if it were to happen then it would almost certainly mean Terry was leaving, Cahill is currently a borderline starter at Chelsea, Zouma is recovering from a serious injury and Stones won’t be coming to Chelsea for the silly money Everton will want for him on the back of such a poor season when he’s struggled to even start for Everton.

    I think the only thing certain about this story is that Chelsea will definitely be in the market for a centre back this summer. Cheers buddie 999

    #959273

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    Aindro – no team can rely soley on youth. At some stage we have to include experience in the side

    I have no idea as to his salary but I cannot believe that he is earning more than JT so lets just say I assume they could be comparable

    However, it was his leadership skills and attitude that interested me most. As I do not see anyone currently within the squad capable of filling JT’s boots in that specific remit I felt that Ramos would be a good option (plus he is a decent defender). KTBFFH

    #959291

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    Suarez – have to admit that if you asked most people I think the general impression of Ramos is a hot headed defender always likely to get sent off. However, while I accept that to a degree my feeling is that there is more to his game

    Certainly against Barca for example he will always look to get involved and let players “know he is there” but at the same time this is done in a fairly controlled manner and he stays on the pitch. His leadership skills then come to the fore as he drives Real on even if the likes of Ronaldo pull the headlines

    As for other defenders well we are being linked with so many it is hard to follow. Agree that Zouma should be the mainstay of our defence for many years (assuming he returns from injury the same kind of player). We have the young American and too early to be sure about him and we have young Christensen at Munchengladbach who is doing well and yesterday it was reported we will not sell him so hopefully to feature in the squad next season

    Personally, I am far from convinced about Cahill and so if we bought Ramos or anyone like him for me, it would be with the clear intention of partnering them with Zouma

    There are to many rumours flying around to have any idea of a clear picture so time will tell on this one but I really hoping we buy a defender with the leadership skills that we will miss as and when JT leaves the Club. KTBFFH

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    suarezsteeth
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    Nine hiya mate. Yeah,the Spanish rumour mill isn’t the most reliable is it? Was it last year he was nailed on to go to Man United, according to reports in Spain,and obviously that never happened did it? I think Chelsea would be crazy to pay the asking price for Stones. He’s vastly overpriced in my opinion, as is Lukaku. The CBs you currently have are all better than him,plus,the lad you signed from Reading will be at Chelsea next season,and Conte may like the look of him,and obviously signing ‘established’ players may stop a lad like that getting his chance. He could save you a few bob in the transfer market,a similar scenario to Ojo at Liverpool. Signing Stones,Ramos,and Manolas? I can’t see that happening. Manolas seems to be the one that looks most likely at the moment (I read somewhere that Ivanovic could be included in a swap deal?)

    1905, if you’re looking for a leader,I suppose Ramos would fit the bill. I think he’s captain at Real at the moment isn’t he? Cahill is a decent player,but I’ve always got the impression that John Terry makes him look better than what he is,if that makes sense? You would obviously have a better idea of that than me. Yeah,I agree,it’s difficult for you to speculate at the moment, seen as the manager isn’t ‘in post’ yet,but if the Manolas rumours are anything to go by,it seems like the new manager has been busy behind the scenes,so that’s positive I’d say. As I said to Nine above,you’d be crazy to pay the asking price for Stones. You could get Varane,Marquinhos,Ramos,Thiago Silva,Pepe,plus a lot of other superior players to Stones for that money,similar to the Lukaku scenario. Is he really worth £65m? Undoubtedly to Everton,but the buying club would be getting ripped off. I’ll watch events at Chelsea with interest over the summer,it’ll certainly be busy haha. The story about Hazard and a £32m move to Madrid is another interesting one. Obviously, if there’s any truth in that one,you would imagine Chelsea will be in the market for a big name replacement. Guess it’s a case of ‘watch this space’ at the moment. I believe Conte’s first match in charge will be against Liverpool in America,so I guess we will get the first look at any new arrivals at some point in that game.

    Cheers lads

    #959681

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    Suarez – totally agree with you about Cahill and JT as borne out be the mistakes that Cahill makes without JT for both Chelsea and England

    Agree, I would not pay 40k for Stones anymore and would prefer Varane for example

    Yes, I think Liverpool is our first game on tour in the US so assume Conte will be there with his new squad…? KTBFFH

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    suarezsteeth
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    1905,yeah,hopefully we will have some new stars on show as well. Should be a good game,even if it is only a friendly

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    redblood
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    999-I would much rather go for either Bonucci or Chiellini of Juve tbh.Both are younger than Ramos,and both very good players.I feel they have won everything already in Italy,and the prospect of living in London,on much higher wages,plus being coached by one of their own,might be able to tempt one of them.No CL football might not represent
    an issue i believe!.Cheers.

    #960530

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    red blood, you’re probably right mate and I think that is the more likely direction we will go in as I can’t see Chelsea paying silly money for Ramos as per what United were quoted last summer, Real wanting to lose Ramos and Ramos wanting to lose CL football for a season when due to his age he doesn’t have too many CL seasons left. Its a rumour out of Diario which has been picked up over here and much more unlikely than likely imo. Cheers 999

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    Romansdirtypants
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    Wild card shout and out the box thinking? Ogbona at west ham. Ex Juve, looks strong and has a bit about him. Signed by Conte originlly? Outside that, why have Ramos when I think Varane is the more obtainable and it would also pair up Frances centre backs at Chelsea. We did alright the last time that happened with Le Bouef and Marcel the great. But to be honest, I’d rather Conte forge his own new partnership using what he’s got, JT can pass a bit so use him as a sweeper?

    #961340

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    Good shouts from RDP.

    The Express are running with another rumour out of Spain that Chelsea have bid £63.5m for Ramos which if proved true is an awful lot of money for a 30 year old.

    Still just rumours though.

    #961787

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    RDP – Agree would much prefer to get Varane rather than Ramos but to date Real have always snubbed us on that one. Would Hazard be good bait to get him…? KTBFFH

    #962750
    Romansdirtypants
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    CFC1905… I don’t want to lose Hazard. I reckon he will come into his own for us next season. The biggest issue is Champions League football. I reckon we will have to integrate and work with what we have currently on the books. The days of fantasy football are behind us till we get back into the top tier european competition. That’s the reality and like many on here do honestly believe we need keep our best players and for them to dig in and prove to the fans, as they owe us after this season, that they want to play for the club. If the likes of Hazard , costa and cortouis want out, then get rid asap as we need the money to finance new purchases. I just think that somewhere among the youth rank and file there are a couple of new JT’s hiding who just need a little faith and game time. If we can find them in time for next season we will see a new side galvanise in front of our eyes. My only concern is what happened at Liverpool when they dropped out of the champions league. Next season is simply massive for the club.

    #963611

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    RDP – I think anyone in their right mind would want to keep Hazard but only if he does sort himself out and can return to the form of last season

    There will inevitabley be changes to the squad just to freshen it up, bring in a few that Conte knows and believes will do a good job for us and potentially just to weed out some bad apples…?

    I am still of the opinion that if the squad had played anything like last season then we would have got a CL place so assuming that those who stay do revert back to norm (and I guess that could be a big assume..?) then we have a squad capable of competing next year

    We know that our competitors will look to improve as well so a lot may depend on how well our new recruits take to the EPL as we do know that for some this can be a long process

    But totally agree that next season will be massive as we must get back to CL football so that places enormous pressure on Conte before he even begins. Of course he took the job knowing full well what was expected but I will be interested to see if he reverts to experience as most Chelsea managers have to date or will he try some youth and hope they respond positively. My feeling is that the current 3 we have this season (RLC, Traore and Kenedy) will remain and feature more but we will add another couple to the squad but they will get limited games as they find their feet. KTBFFH

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