Are Arsenal going to miss out on Allegri?

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    ahmad1973
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    There are some rumours that Barca want to sign Allegri. If true then I cannot see Allegri coming to the Arsenal, and another potentially good manager we may miss out on. Why does not our board show a little bit of ambition/balls for once and make a move before it is too late?

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    Jeff
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    For the simple reason they have offered Wenger a new contract! They are now waiting for the mighty Wenger to decide- thought this was obvious from the various noises coming out of The Emirates since Christmas?

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    the specialone
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    To be honest mate,Allegri has given major hints of wanting to manage in the PL and especially Arsenal.If we want, even an average board would be abe to get him.

    The real question is whether he’s the best option out there?Don’t get me wrong,he’s doing a fantastic job with Juventus but it’s all inherited.The players, the quality, the mentality.It will not be the same job at Arsenal.He will have a much tougher job, primarily to improve the mentality of the players and club as a whole.

    Which is why there are three managers I much prefer over him.In order,Diego simieone jorge sampaoli and leonardo jardim.I think people underestimate the kind of job our next manager will have on his hands.At present, we are so desperate for wanting to see wenger leave, but at the same time i feel it is absolutely vital to pick the best option out there.Which is diego simieone atleast for me.

    But as well all know, this board is possibly the worst in world football.They lack ambition, and I doubt they would be able to recruit a top class manager wanting to manage a club run by these nomads.

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    The Oracle
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    The Stupid One. How can the BofD be the worst in world football when they back the manager. They gave him total autonomy, they have given him hundreds of millions to spend whilst other clubs sack managers the season after they have won the PL. The BofD have shown the manager loyalty and trust based on his previous success, this is the sort of BofD anyone would want to work with. They are a credit to the club, Wenger is the problem, he has let them down and yes you can criticise the BofD for not sacking him previously but this is what makes Arsenal a cut above the others. Of course someone like you wouldn’t understand that. Give it up because all you are doing is making a bigger fool of yourself, if that’s possible.

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    ahmad1973
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    TSO I agree that Allegri may not be the only one out there. That said, Allegri did well at Milan. All I want to see is a change in management with someone who has some kind of pedigree. Sampaoli is doing a remarkable job at Sevilla. I would also add Blanc as a potential replacement. The pout though is that our board is so inept is we have a better chance of getting Moyes than any of the names being bandied around!

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    the specialone
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    ahmad1973 – Jorge sampaoli is a fabulous prospect as well, he truly is doing a remarkable job at Sevilla.I simply want a manager, who is as animated and involved as a conte or Klopp,and most importantly someone who is going to identify and accept the real problem at the club which is Mentality.Mauricio Pochetino when he took over spurs publicly announced that the mentality was poor and needed to be changed.He’s changed it and they’ve been over achieving for a couple of seasons now.

    The other numpty – “The board are a credit to this club”.Oh dear oh dear hahahahaha need I say more…

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    The Oracle
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    Once again Stupid One you demonstrate your footballing ignorance. The Arsenal BofD have treated their manager admirably, he has let them down as well as the fans you can bang on attempting to blame the BofD as much as you like, no one is swallowing it, no one is agreeing with you and yet still you persist in your bankrupt argument. Would you prefer a BofD that sacked their manager every few months, actually you probably would. You just never learn do you. Never mind you just carry on talking to yourself, no one else is taking you seriously.

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    the bsm walk
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    He must be the stupid one indeed, he just replied to Jeff starting off ‘to be fair mate’ when not too long ago and on more than one occasion, he said he wouldn’t waste his time replying to him. Maybe bipolar one as well?

    #1443311
    the specialone
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    Says the person who’s last hundred posts have been discussing posters rather than football.I guess they don’t serve you food in your old age home, no friends?Chess games?Oh who am I kidding a person with dimentia trying to play chess.You must be an embarrassment to your family, probably so bored of your life would pick a fight with your dog hahaha

    #1443325

    the bsm walk
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    Very good, bipolar one, very good. At least I don’t post here every single day, and actually have a life outside of trying to get a point across on here (I should use the word ‘point’ loosely it’s just random gibberish). You must really like the sound of your own voice.

    #1443355
    steveosnakeeye
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    you guys never stop eh?!

    answer to the question posed….YES, yes we will miss out on Alegri, and Sampaoli and any other decent prospect

    the reason for that is an unambitious board who have given our under performing manager to much power and too much lee way. They have now offered yet another TWO year contract to continue our mediocre play and achieve fuck all while delivering 2-3 results a season where we are humiliated.

    The players we have and the tactics we use and the way we play and if the players “turn up” or are mentally strong and injuries…all of this is down to AW, all of this has NOT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH, not for our beloved club and not for the fans that pay the most and get let down the most every season for far to long now.

    Giving AW the amount of time he has had and continue to offer with all of the above his fault is the BOARD and that makes them just as culpable for me. I want to see silent stan TRY to win the league, to get in an experienced passionate coach NOW and give him decent budget and then have a real go and not take top 4 as the height of achievement.

    we stuck through austerity and our new stadium and humiliations and now its time THEY GAVE BACK, that for me means SHOWING they care and acting like it. We may not win the league we may drop out of top 4 but i would take that NOW for change and someone to do something different and see how this group of players can actually play

    thats my take and anyone who disagrees with it is neither dumb or knows nothing about football (see its that easy) so feel free to rip the above apart in the name of discussion and lets see how we go

    cheers

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    Jeff
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    Steveo-at least you accept that it’s ok to disagree, as does everyone else bar one. We have this one poster who is unique in that he falls out with every single poster at some stage of every season. He even name called probably the best poster on here, barber, some months ago and he’s no longer around. He posts on here with tedious regularity;he repeats himself non-stop when he is occasionally able to write a semi-coherent sentence; he bores everyone to death by polluting this site with”views”, sorry diatribes; he has been the single reason why many decent posters have left the site as they see that he has taken over; if you do not believe that Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey and Coquelin are stars, heaven help you and many posters have been accused of being “cretins”,”fools”, “idiots” etc on a regular because they disagree with his “views”, sorry sermons. Now, I am not blameless at all as I often rise to the bait of this WUM and apologies for that, but if you want this site to remain one where we can can discuss issues and views and not be lectured or screeched at in print by this really sad individual,then do something about it please.On the old site, when people posted non-stop, they were told to cut it out. There is nothing wrong with posting opinions, but if you have one person consistently lambasting all and sundry for countering these “opinions”, sorry obsessions, then who’s to blame? It would be nice to ignore him, but he’s all over this site like a rash, every day.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    Jeff, i know mate but lets put it in perspective.

    What do you want to do? I personally dont think this individual is worth a ban on their own (not that i would be my call).

    There are many of these posters all over TT. There is a very very simple way to move forward, in fact only one way that keeps you happy and sane and stops the rot on the board.

    Options are, complain to the Ed’s, James is pretty good these days though i doubt he would do much more than i have and ask for reasoned posts with none fo the rubbish and personal insults.

    I used to struggle with him and may others on this page and general. Now if i dont like a post i forget it, move to the next post and answer that, or i answer the points on the poster without being drawn in to anything else.

    These people quite literally have as much power as they are given. Every response every slur every argument gives them power. Dont reply at all to anything from these posters, you will find your own posting is more fun and the board picks up.

    People can say what they want directly to or about me and i wont lose any sleep whatsoever.

    Lifes to short gents and last time i looked we all supported the same club and want the same thing and thats to win trophies!

    Just add some natural yogurt to the rash and then ignore, its really easier than you think and actually empowering

    or we can keep doing the same things and and having a go and blasting each other until there are only 2 posters left who hate each other and all they do is have a go….

    make the right choice and see how it goes

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    Jeff
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    OK- will do Steveo. You are right, “every response gives them power”. Ignore him, hopefully, he’ll go away and we can have adult, not juvenile, chat on here again.

    #1443522

    Kitman22
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    I don’t understand the difficulty in relation to TSO. This is simply a forum where the most power we have is to post words. As steveosnakeeye has said above, this is completely neutralised if you simply ignore its existence.

    You have a problem with his posts or attitude don’t reply to him.

    I personally don’t get the need for all the insults ect. If you don’t agree with someone its not the end of the world and we should all be able to deal with it as an adult.

    Back to the OP. Working with our board whether you believe they are good or not would still be a massive attraction to most managers. To know that you will likely have the security of x number of years to develop a team and have the minimum of CL football as your benchmark. Plus 8million a year salary and the stadium/funds. I think a lot of top managers would see that as an attractive job.

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    the specialone
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    SteveO – What You’ve written in discussion to the actual topic of the board being just as culpable as Wenger if not more,is exactly what I’ve been saying throughout.For some reason when I put the spotlight on the board,Certain people think I’m defending Wenger but it’s not true at all.The board are responsible for not sacking him all these years and still keeping him as the manager you have to question what actually is the target for the club.Not even question,You just have to presume it to be honest that titles is not what this board is actually aiming for.

    As far as where the recruitment,Tactics formations,mentality ofcourse Wenger is reepsonsible for all that.Ive never said the board are responsible for that as well.Because it seems to be some sort of fashion on here to put words into people’s mouth.

    I very much get you’re trying to moderate this debate,And I appreciate it for the good of this forum because we’ve lost all the good posters on here but when you have people like Jeff,bsm etc who’s only contribution is name calling and insults rather than “agree to disagree” then they’re clearly not right for this forum.

    #1443574
    the specialone
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    Kitman22 – The difficulty is that there are certain posters like Jeff,bsm,oracle on here who’s biggest contributions are name calling and insults.I think they’re so bored in life or can’t accept the fact that they called certain things wrong so they start pointing the finger at me.

    Truth is that I’ve honestly started to ignore their posts.You can honestly go through all our posting history and see who’s posts are actually about football and how many are insults towards others.

    I have no interest in even replying to them unless they are desperate to spread lies.You have hypocrites like Jeff claiming moral high ground and coming on here saying no one can just “agree to disagree”.I mean honestly if there you were to be kicked off for this forum for lying Jeff would be long gone.90% of his posts are this poster is thick or that poster is not good blah blah blah.What he loves to do on this forum is desperate provoke a response by name calling and then he calls others a child.Its alright children have a tendency to not realise when they’re being childish.

    I think from no mw onwards I’m just going to be more mature than they ever were and not fall to their level by even giving them a satisfaction of a reply otherwise they’d eat,Sleep and live on this forum.

    #1443588
    steveosnakeeye
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    im not taking sides, said me piece the rest is up to you guys but the most frustrating thing as neutral reading all posts is you guys ARE mostly on the same page you just antagonise each other too much or have done in the past to move on…..

    anyways what i see is all posters wanting the best for OUR club and discussing how best to get that, we have common ground lets use that! we DONT HAVE TO AGREE we can even disagree with GUSTO! have a few GOOD ARGUMNENTS.

    sounds like we need a ground zero, all past sins are forgotten. If this happened and then when people disagree they do so like they are arguing with friends then youd find you can look back with reflection and say we have had some good run ins over the years on various subjects and made for good debates…nothing wrong in fact if we all thought the same we would only need one poster anyway!

    your ALL top lads in my book, yes ALL of you includes TSO and Shifters! so man up and if you love the club love your fellow fans even if you dont have the same opinion

    #1443655

    the bsm walk
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    That’s pot calling the kettle black, TSO. All you do is resort to insults…don’t say I only focus on name calling, when it’s you who instigates it all. You’re just proving day by day on here how much of a child you really are. Grow up.

    #1443678
    steveosnakeeye
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    Doh!

    so ground zero tomorrow? 😉

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