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    Jay belfast
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    No that was not the only stat that they pulled from the report but that was the stat that you drew attention to. To counter that stat, I said I was surprised the stat wasn’t higher because in the situation where a respondent is asked a “given the Brexit result are you going to move operations out of the UK to other EU countries” consider it would have been a very easy response for most of the companies surveyed. They don’t know how it’s going to all pan out and given they are US companies they will probably consider anything. That type of survey question is by far and away the most likely way they got this stat.

    You said that was “sooo funny” and “hilarious” but after repeated requests to clarify how exactly they would have formulated this stat (if not in the manner I described) you have failed continually to provide anything other vague statements about how they would have got this result and not one practical/logical suggestion. So the next time you think it’s clever to be ignorant and rude maybe you should have a think if you can actually backup anything you are saying.

    #1461345

    Paxman
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    Jay – What I said was soo funny was that you said they probably ticked the box without thinking about it. I was saying it was just some survey they you tick a few boxes and send it on it’s way.

    As far as you being surprised the figure isn’t higher, I think that is probably to do with the cost of re-location for some industries, from what I have read in that report and since the banking and service industries are the ones most likely to move, either to ROI or mainland Europe, banking especially as we will lose passporting rights which currently allow them to sell their services freely across the EU and give firms based in Europe unfettered access to Britain. There are 5,500 firms in the UK using these rights.

    #1461361
    Jay belfast
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    I said they probably ticked “consider it” without much thought because that’s how people approach surveys. Would any of them have called a board meeting to discuss their answers?! Would they send an email to get opinions?! Spoke to colleagues about how to answer?! etc I’d be absolutely astounded if the respondents who replied even mentioned it to anyone else in the company and didn’t complete the survey inside 5 minutes after receiving the email.

    Why was it not a survey that you tick a few boxes and send it on it’s way? why was this one so different and so special that it got respondents special attention?

    #1461366

    Paxman
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    Bloggy – In your case it may be better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt.

    Abraham Lincoln

    #1461451

    Sean the sailor
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    Bloggy, your right about jack. It’s like the old saying goes ” always run when you see a freak with a basketball”

    It’s just a different if it’s a hippy with one toe chum.

    Have a great weekend

    #1461485

    bloggy
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    Paxo;

    Trust me mate, anyone reading our respective posts on this page, knows that one of us is a self obsessed, semi literate half wit, with serious self esteem issues, prepared to stoop to any depths, including dragging his dead old granny onto the page, in a sad and desperate attempt to garner sympathy and condolence from complete stangers…and the other…is me.

    Interesting to see that in spite of your responding to many of my posts you steered clear of commenting on my “hard Brexit” posts. One might have expected a self proclaimed economist such as yourself to have pointed out the holes in my argument. It’s not too late for you to do so. Please feel free to come to the rescue of your drowning fellow remoaner Johnny, who seems suddenly to have lost his appetite for debate on the subject.

    Bloggs.

    #1461486

    bloggy
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    Thanks for that sean;

    Drunk?…illiterate?…who knows?

    #1461521

    Sean the sailor
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    Ah bloggy, why the put downs now mate? Was only having a bit of fun pal. You’ve changed since brexit. You used to be about the music buttercup. Now you get all angry and resort to name calling. No problem old chap. Have a great day.

    #1461533

    bloggy
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    Sean;

    Sorry if I over reacted to your post mate. To be honest I didn’t get it at all…old age is a curse! Feel free to explain. You know perhaps I’ve become a bit defensive on the page given all the Brexit/terrorism debate.

    Was a time of course that there was a proper Spurs page, where football debate with like minded guys was something to look forward to and enjoy. Long gone I’m afraid.

    Now all that’s left is something of a battlefield, pretty much inhabited by morons…oh well back to the war I guess.

    Cheers Bloggs.

    #1461545
    Johnny Utah
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    “When you are dead, you won’t even know you are dead. It’s a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.”

    Johnny lltm 05/04/2017 7.12am sol
    ©Sean

    “That’s interesting”

    #1461551

    Sean the sailor
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    Bloggy, I’m only joking mate. I didn’t even read the comments. Being from Ireland, I stay well clear of discussions about politics.

    Hopefully Spurs fans have something to celebrate this season. Team is really playing well and are fantastic to watch. Chelsea have the league abd filly desereved but if Spurs get 2nd and the fa cup, it will have been a great season. Having no lane for chunks of the season show they are not a one man team. Best of luck for the rest of the season

    #1462389

    Paxman
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    Johnny – I just scroll past his posts now, if you want a ‘my dad is bigger than your dad’ argument then reply to bloggy, if you want proper debate just scroll straight past his posts, makes the site a whole lot better 🙂

    #1462412

    bloggy
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    Johnny and Paxo;

    Still no comment on any factual errors in my “Hard Brexit” posts. Plenty of the usual “he doesn’t know what he’s talking about” inferences but still absolutely nothing to argue or dispute a single point that I made.

    Could it be that two of the remoaners who accused Brexiteers of a being a bit on the thick side, are simply too dim to argue the case against a hard Brexit. Paxo with his pretend high finance background appears to be at a total loss to disagree with a single point.

    Truth is of course, that it’s nigh on impossible to argue with the numbers…that’s always assuming that you can understand them of course.

    I love the latest “just scroll past his replies” from Paxo…a man who has done nothing but reply to my posts for months. Could it be that the office clerk’s a bit out of his depth on this occasion?

    Bloggs.

    #1465721

    nine nine nine
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    As I suggested a while back in order to drive Brexit through Parliament with any confidence Theresa May might well have to call a General Election and that’s what she’s attempting to do by taking that strategy to Parliament tomorrow knowing that she needs a two thirds majority to call a General Election.

    Interesting times.

    #1465732
    liquidator
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    999 – You called it right. I couldn’t see it happening, but I guess the disarray of the Labour Party and the opportunity to increase her majority was just too tempting! It will put to the test the theory of some that if we had another Brexit vote, Remain would win the day. I guess that would mean a massive increase in the vote for Labour, the Liberal Democrats, and the other “progressive” parties. Like that is going to happen!

    #1465741

    nine nine nine
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    liquidator, I’m sure the significant lead in the polls played a part in May’s but I think that the opposition parties position on Brexit plus the H of L made things very difficult for her is the country try return the Conservatives with a significant majority it gives May a stronger position to negotiate Brexit on behalf of the country.

    All very interesting it looks like a positive vote for a General Election tomorrow given the reactions of the Labour and Liberal parties.

    #1465874

    Paxman
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    Liquidator – Your logic doesn’t follow, the majority of the leave area’s where historical Labour seats, so are the traditional labour voters now going to vote Tory, in the same way the traditional Tory voter will not vote against the party as if we are going to come out of Europe they will want the Tories to be the ones bringing us out, because the Tories are the establishment, they, as they always have done will make sure that the wealthy are the least affected by this, where as Labour would pile the pain on the wealthy and ensure the less well off are least affected.

    #1465890
    liquidator
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    Paxman – Okay, it was a cheap shot – I’m busted!

    #1465901

    nine nine nine
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    Dedicated Remainers can vote Liberal in the confidence that Tim Fallon will save the day for them. 🙂

    #1465923

    Paxman
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    999 – As with Labour The Liberals will not do enough to ensure the wealth and benefits that is enjoyed by some of the hardcore Tory voters, yes many of them wanted to remain, but so did the majority of the Tories, including May. I don’t think they will want to remove their preferred party, as I said the Tories are the establishment, they went to school with the establishment, if anyone thinks that Boris, May or your Rees-Mogg’s of this world are going to upset their Eton buddies they should think again. What will be most interesting is what shift this will have for UKIP.

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