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  • #1402285
    havemessi
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    Ramsey!Ramsey!!Ramsey!!! Why is he still at the club let alone start or play at all. Ok Bellarin had his worse game ever then there is Xhaka who just showed why he can’t be trusted with constant rash decision. Then there is Cech who has no reason to be number one. Generally the worst we have played all season but my word Ramsey is suppose to be five star player and oh he was played in his favorite position and a two years old would have done better than him yday. He has no business on the bench let alone the team and just like Wenger we would never win anything of significance as long as Ramsey is in the team. Complete and utter useless player. He is a fraud of a player and has no place in any top team. Waste of space, garbage, useless, complete trash. Jeff Adeilade would have done better than Ramsey and perhaps we would have won with him and Iwobi changing position upfront. My word how much I want him Ramsey to have a lengthy injury so he can be on the sideline for another two years. Yes you heard me Ramsey shld get injured and get lost and leave the team so better players can have an opportunity.

    #1402534
    AndyC
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    I get the Ramsey comments as he hasnt actually played well for almost 2 years now, i also agree with the Bellerin comments, by far his worst game for us. I do not understand the negativity around Cech, he didnt do anything wrong last night…. oh sorry he conceded 3 goals of which he could of done anything about. If your going to tell me he should be saving the one that went through his legs then i will question your knowledge of football and look to see if you have even ever played the game. its not as black and white as a lot of people think. He is having to cover the ball to his right, left high and low, make himself look big, he cannot cover every angle. Pathetic if people are going to point finger at him, i would point the finger at Sanchez more, he was completely missing for most the game along with almost every other player.

    #1402540

    the bsm walk
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    Al, have to disagree on Iwobi. He’s been poor for a while now, he hasn’t kicked on from his early form, he had a decent game at palace but other than that I didn’t think he was that great in the last few games. As much as people like to blast Ozil, we lack any real creativity without him. Just he opens up the play with his passing. I’m not saying it would have been a different result if he played but it’s astonishing what we lose when we don’t have Cazorla or Ozil. I just don’t understand Wenger…he’s seemingly given up the domination when we used to suffocate teams through possession…he gives that up and now we look worse for it. Cech distribution is sooo poor! He kicks it long always, even when we had Sanchez as the lone man, I mean what is he expected to do with that! And Giroud doesn’t win enough in the air up front so why not play it short! The balance of the team is still wrong…

    #1402585
    Chelsea.man
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    Again i think you have quality in your squad, the likes of Sanchez, Ozil, Bellerin, Koschienly, Mustafi, Cech, Ramsey, Giroud, Chembarlin and Wallcot. but sometimes you need one player who can get the best out of those quality players. one classic example is, how the presence of Kante is getting the best out of the likes of Hazard, Pedro and Costa and even Matic. i think your squad is on par with the best but all you need is a player who can fill those little pockets. because your team always like to take the game to the opposition. if you get that player then, i think you will be hard to stop. and more crucially about 90% of your top players are under 30 which gives you a fantastic opportunity to dominate the league in the coming years if you get the right balance.

    #1402597

    Jeff
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    Al and bsm. Bsm, I agree about Iwobi and thought that with Ox and Perez we looked much better on the flanks. Iwobi needs to be benched for a while- I think he’s got a bit too big for his boots, constantly appearing in the red tops with his girl whilst out on the town and statements from his camp that “he’d turn down Barcelona if they came calling now”. As for Ozil, yes he does create more than the rest, but with him last night in the team, plus say Walcott, we would have played with 9 men as both have a really weak mentality and would have disappeared without trace by 8pm last night! I cannot fathom our attitude. We start like we’re playing Bayern Munich and look all over the place, especially in the first half. We did not have a shot on goal until we did score and that is unacceptable. To celebrate as though we’d won something at the end ( Giroud,Gabriel and Wenger) shows our make-up. We have made great strides in trying to secure that fourth place trophy. I hope Wenger gets roundly abused at the next home game. To see talents like Klopp, Conte et al reinvigorating their teams, whilst this aged dinosaur does SFA during the game apart from fiddling with his eiderdown is truly galling.

    #1402606

    Karim321
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    Reading Wengers comments before the game, I thought we would be in trouble as he was moaning about Bournemouth getting an extra day’s rest. Just get on with it and stop moaning and admit that you don’t know what you are doing whewn it comes to how to defend. If Arsenal were in Chelsea’s position, i.e. clear at the top with a lead of what could be 8 points, most pundits would still expect Arsenal to blow it and they would be right. The team just doesn’t have the winning mentality and don’t seem to be up for it every match. We were 10 or more points clear of Man U not long ago and if we loose the next game and they win, they will be above us.

    #1402795

    andy528
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    Hulk – I will assume your comments about Cech were in part directed at me. I don’t expect him to cover every single angle but surely its more about playing the percentages and giving yourself the best chance possible to save the shot? Its one of the oldest cliches in football that keepers shouldn’t be beaten easily at their near post and anyone who watches Arsenal will know its happened to Cech on a few occasions since he joined us.

    All I said was that with the first goal he failed to make himself as big as possible. In that position with a player who is left footed, a keeper should do his best to cover his near post and make the player go across him or above him if he wants to score.
    As for the penalty, I never expected him to save it. I have never seen him save one. It was merely an opinion. I’m not asking people to agree with it.

    However, if you are going to point the finger at Sanchez, I do think on this occasion you will be in the minority. To be told I can’t point the finger at someone charged with preventing goals but you can point it at someone who scored one of the 3 that got us back into the game, seems a little odd.

    #1403026

    New Era
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    On the Iwobi front, I don’t think he’s good enough for our first team until he learns how to shoot, and unless he develops this part of his game, he won’t make it at our club or any top European club for that matter.

    When he’s in the side with Ozil, we have two of our front four players who can’t pull the trigger, it’s just too big a flaw to carry in the side and it’s why we often struggle to pose a big enough goal threat.

    #1403071
    the specialone
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    The hulk – Sorry mate,Agree with Andy.Petr cech has failed to keep clean sheets in loads of matches.I couldn’t care much about how many of those goals the defense was responsible.It’s the goalkeeper’s job as well to organize the defense,communicate with them and motivate them!Espescially from probably the most experienced keeper in the PL,he shows he’s anything but.He’s become poor.It might be that this club has turned his mentality, but either ways he’s not showing any promise at all.The funny thing is that even if he does improve from now onwards it will probably be because he’s told to do so for show for some matches it won’t come naturally.

    Also,blaming sanchez.Seriously?Now I know you’re definitely having a laugh.More than half the team is not fit enough to lace sanchez’s boots.

    #1403251
    Al The Gooner
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    BSM, Iwobi hasn’t been the same player this season at all mate. I’ve mentioned a few times how disappointed I am that he hasn’t kicked on from last season.

    However, last night, I thought he and Sanchez were our best two players. Doesn’t mean a great deal, because the rest were absolutely shit for 70 minutes and they certainly didn’t look like a team fighting for the title.

    #1404517
    AndyC
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    Andy, All i said was IF you are going to blame cech then you can blame sanchez who up until the 60th minute was non existent. Im solely pointing the finger at Wenger.

    Special one, thats fine you have that view but its a back 5 not a back 1. Cech could do anything about the goals and blaming him is just clutching at straws. Sanchez is by far and away the best player we have, but that shouldnt exempt him from any blame. He was poor up until the goal.

    #1404814
    havemessi
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    Hulk, completely disagree on Sanchez and Cech. Sanchez was the best player the entire 90mins playing from the left and wiping several crosses in the Giroud always miss as he constantly makes only one type of run to the near post. In fact that game showed why Sanchez must play upfront and not on the wings. But still he was the only player along with Iwobi that were lively and looks like making something happen. Iwobi should never have been subbed instead the waste of space Ramsey should have and Ox brought in the middle to partner Iwobi.

    As for Cech first I never wanted his move here and I never trust his commitment after giving eleven years to your neighbor it’s hard to build any loyalty but then again Ospina has a big case against him and a more ruthless manager will alternate them. He has been poor for a while letting soft goals. He gifted Liverpool two goals on the opening day. The first goal last night should and would be saved by a better keeper because the left footed player went for the near post the only part he is suppose to cover and it went in without a touch. He can not save a penalty to save his life and his distribution is the poorest have seen from a top keeper. He like Ramsey has over played their time. Ospina should get ahead of him just like Ramsey should go find his own bench to seat on the side.

    #1404841

    Karim321
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    I am not surprised that Sanchez was disappointed at dropping 2 points especially as Chelsea and Liverpool dropped points. The rest of the team should have the same attitude and players should be asking how they were 3 – 0 down to a mediocre team. We need to change the coach as our players don’t know how to defend when we don’t have the ball. This applies mostly to our midfield. Ramsay is probably the worst but even Iwobi is poor when we have to defend. We have too many players like that. They have no positional sense and it has been our failing for many seasons.
    There is no way we will win the PL this season or any seanson whilst Wenger is in charg and anyone who thinks we will is living in cloud cuckoo land. We have had too many blips. Not winning in November and then loosing to City and Everton means we have lost too much ground. Our mentaility is completely wroong and has been for years.

    #1405369

    stev2bath1
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    The worst player in this game was Bellerin and that’s why we nearly lost! He gave away two goals No one played really well but the game was an uphill battle from the off because of his mistakes! I dont get this Ramsey was poor or Iwobi was poor no one played really well but he cost us this game end of.

    #1405924

    T_Adams
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    Bellerin was clearly pushed for one of the goals. He didn’t play well but I think it’s unfair for him to take the blame for both. Xhaka was reckless yet again with his push. The player was going nowhere and we had cover. The ref was appalling. How he can give a penalty and let the other go is a joke.

    Overall, our attitude in this game showed how much ambition we have. To celebrate the equaliser like we did instead of trying to restart the game immediately to get the winner shows our mentality. It’s like our celebrations after beating Leicester and when got fourth place. It’s Wenger who has instilled this mentality and needs to go first and then the players who are happy with fourth place and there seems to be quite a few. It’s no surprise Shanchez is fuming. We have no ambition and make the same mistakes.

    The problem is that so many fans still support Wenger. It doesn’t matter that we have a weak mentality and make the same mistakes year after year, it’s just blind faith.

    #1406899
    havemessi
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    Stev2bath1, Ramsey had a guilt edge chance to win the game from a cross from Sanchez or so and clearly did his usual silly flick and the ball was over the top. When he had time to stop the ball and so much. That was why Sanchez was furious at him and just like Sanchez, I almost ripped his throats off the tv.

    Bellarin had a nightmare game cost us a goal and was his poorest game and oh yes he can be forgiven he is simply one of our best player. Xhaka cost us a goal too with his rash challenge and made up with a cross for Giroud equalizer but tell me what Ramsey did for 90mins. Run in slow-mo and fluff the easiest of chances at the most crucial time. He really need a smack in the face.

    Ramsey, Ox and Jack all need to be sold they are simply to average to play at Arsenal the only thing keeping them is their nationality.

    #1407058

    Jeff
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    And Walcott isn’t average? 11 years and he’s still developing- utter rubbish havemessi.

    #1407829
    havemessi
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    Jeff, of the lot Theo is the only one who has contributed significantly and score vital goals and for me he is a special type of weapon we ought to have and he is not as average as people make. I can live with Theo because he brings the best out of certain players due to his pace.

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