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  • #1556184

    nine nine nine
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    Bingo, yeah Suarez was innocent of everything and just misunderstood.😊

    I doubt even the majority of Liverpool fans believe that.

    But Suarez is a Barca player now and actively trying to recruit Coutinho so probably not deserving of your blind support!

    #1556185

    Paxman
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    Rob – 2 or 3 times? There were 8 on target, and these were decent effort that brought out good saves, plus twice hitting the woodwork, and at least twice off the top of my head, hitting narrowly wide when we should have scored, we probably on threatened 2 or 3 times after they scored, but before that we should have been out of sight.

    #1556290
    redsteve
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    I find it sad so few give Rodgers credit he deserves for almost winning the PL. He did great for Liverpool. Truth is all Liverpool managers now are up against it to compete with City, United, Chelsea as we don’t have their resources. In terms of resources we are probably 5’th or 6’th in England. He delivered us our best league season since 1989/1990.

    #1556291

    gingerlfc
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    We’re the 8th richest club in the world but of the 7 above us, 4 are in the Prem.
    That’s how difficult it is to win it.

    #1556326
    Sanj1
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    Leicester did it, so we as a club should at least be challenging for the title more seasons than not. Can we really say we don’t have the resources to win the thing? We just haven’t solved the problems in defence consistently over a season & when we have (with Rafa & Kenny) we haven’t scored enough.

    #1556331

    gingerlfc
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    Leicester are the ONLY club to have done it.
    It’s the exception that proves the rule.

    #1556334
    redsteve
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    Im not saying we shouldn’t be trying to win it just putting into context how well Rodgers did in our nearly season. Based on resources we should be on average finishing fifth in the PL (as someone pointed out statistically we are the fifth richest club in England). In any season if Klopp was to finish second in the PL with Liverpool for me it would be from a management achievement point of view equal winning the German league with Dortmund as the German league is not as competitive as the PL.

    #1556335

    gingerlfc
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    For me we should be trying to win the league every year.
    Everything we do both on and off the pitch should be done with the thinking in mind, “Will this help us win the league?”

    #1556359
    Sanj1
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    …& nobody said they could, a bit like us winning the CL under Rafa, against the odds. It illustrates the point that we are underachieving more often than not with resources we have & the same can be said of Arsenal. Yet we have never won the premiership. We should be challenging with the possibility of winning it at least 1 season in 3 imho.

    #1556375

    nine nine nine
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    Sanji, a club like Leicester winning the PL title was a total one off and will never happen again certainly not in our lifetimes.

    It will be very difficult for any club to win the the PL title over the next 4/5 seasons imo perhaps longer the way the Manchester club’s are and with their financial might which is over and above everyone else.

    Liverpool winning the CL in 2005 was totally against the odds and will probably never be won again under those circumstances but winning the CL is still considerably easier than winning the PL and history tells us that Cups can be won via good fortune and in respect of the CL it is won over 13 games rather than the much tougher 38 games of the PL season.

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    Sanj1
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    I’m not sure we wouldn’t be challenging the Manchester clubs this season had we not messed up the Van Dijk transfer. In terms of challenging in previous seasons, had we got Salah first time around we might have maintained a challenge last season. It’s the transfer side of things that should be better, were always playing catch up because of it.

    #1556393

    gingerlfc
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    Liverpool winning the CL cannot be compared to winning a league.
    CL is 1 or 2 legged Cup games. You can actually lose a game and still go thru to the next round.
    League, the way it is now a team generally needs to picking up approx 2.3 points a game, every game. Week in, week out consistently.
    It’s also not realistic to think, at the min, we could be winning 1 in 3 leagues.
    Considering the fact that 4 of the richest clubs in the world, all richer than us, compete in the same league you can see why it’s so difficult to do so.
    The last season we nearly won it, it was a near perfect storm re the teams around us. They had new managers or there was others things going on at those clubs which meant they were in flux. Unfortunately we just came up short.

    #1556396
    Sanj1
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    In the top 6 minileague last season we were beating those richer clubs but dropping points against the teams below. If we could maintain that minileague momentum & strengthen in the areas we need to to win against the teams below…bingo ! Again, the transfer dealings in the summer let us down.

    #1556398

    gingerlfc
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    But winning a mini league doesn’t win you the league.
    We may win one off games against these teams but generally they finish above us because they can do it across a 38 game season which is completely different.
    Xtra money can give you the ability to have better and deeper squads which can cope better with a long season.
    We first need to establish ourselves in the top four which will mean an xtra fourty or fifty mil per year plus the ability to attract better talent before we can start consistently challenging for the title.

    #1556399

    nine nine nine
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    Sanji, Liverpool and everybody else for that matter are miles away from Man City and if they buy Sanchez in the January window the gap will grow even bigger and that’s before both Kompany and Mendy return to the team and Guardiola spends big again in the Summer and Mourinho will probably spend circa £300m in the Summer.

    As I’ve explained on many occasions and as Ranieri said only this week things have now changed at Chelsea the club has to be self sufficient and can’t keep up with the spending of the Manchester clubs anymore.

    Liverpool winning the PL one season in three is just a pipe dream mate and it will be an enormous task for anyone to win a PL title in the next 4/5 seasons over the Manchester club’s.

    You guys need to stop beating yourselves up over not winning titles anymore what was achieved in the 70’s and 80’s sadly stands for nowt now. Ginger is right firstly Liverpool need to establish themselves as a regular CL team which allows the signing of higher echelon players which in itself won’t be easy and see where you can go from there.

    But suggesting that Liverpool should be winning one PL title in three is totally unrealistic especially when Liverpool haven’t won a League title since 1989/90.

    I’m not knocking Liverpool by the way because even as current Champions I also can’t see when Chelsea might win a PL title again.

    #1556428

    redsforever
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    Oh here comes nine with his lecturing again. Dont see anything wrong with sanji’s post. Nothing wrong with ambition. You might as well stop being a fan if you dont dream or hope your team win the league.

    #1556429

    NotoriousBingo
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    So should Chelsea just say that’s it, why bother even showing up for matches then. If you got no ambition you are heading nowhere.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Pax all I remember was a good shot from Allen, when Sakho blazed over and then Luis’ effort near the end. Other than that Schwarzer and his two walls in front of him negated most what we threw at them which was just a lot of possession and not much penetration.

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    Bob-Notts
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    Nine, 3 or 4 adjustments and we would be in a very good chance of winning the league – I’m confident of that.

    What we can’t do is prioritise CL and EPL together as that needs real strength in depth or some unbelievable luck with injuries.

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    redsteve
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    Ambition is good, no problem with that. What is wrong is when Rodgers comes within a Gerrard slip of winning the league 3 years ago against the odds, competing against probably 4 managers with bigger budgets,the closest we have come to winning the league since 1990 and some just refuse to give him his due credit. Money in the modern game makes it harder than ever to break into the clubs competing for the Premier League. When Roman arrived at Chelsea with all that money he changed the landscape and things have moved further on since.

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