Emenalo OUT TF

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  • #1241421
    NIBlue
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    Zola, Hiddink, Vialli, Desailly, Gullit, Ballack, Lampard, Hoddle are just a few names that I can think of off the top of my head with international appeal, International reputations and a connection with Chelsea who would be much better candidates for the role. People who have competed and or managed at the highest level, people who will have a better understanding of the psychological pressures of competing at the highest level, people who understand what it takes to succeed as a player at the highest level ….qualities none of which Emenalo has!

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    NIBlue, you seem to forget that it was Emenalo who scouted and recruited De Bryune, Lukaku, Courtois just to mention a few. So far he has done a very good job. The problem we have is our inability to move out dead woods from the squad so as to make way for younger players from our academy. This is only issue with him. What are Ivanovic and Cahill still doing in our squad? They should have been moved on.

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    Luckydestiny
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    good post michael, and besides why would the likes of ballack and lampard, whether they are qualified or not, want to take on the role as the person solely responsible for chelsea’s failings? 🙂 I wouldnt want emenalo’s job!

    #1241805

    nine nine nine
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    Michael, given that Emenalo wasn’t appointed Technical Director until July 2011 and we signed Courtois in July 2011 and Lukaku in August 2011 I suspect he had little to nothing to do with the signing of both.

    I question Elmenalo’s role at Chelsea and I think there needs to be a root and branch investigation as to Chelsea’s transfer dealings over the past couple of years but I’m not sure he’s wholly culpable for all of Chelsea’s current problems.

    #1241871
    Chelsea.man
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    I fully agree with NIBlue sentiment about Emenalo. he needs to go because he doesn’t understand the needs of the team. credit to where its due he has done some good job in the past, but nothing last forever. every era has a beggining and an end.

    Emenalo failed this club big time. signing a promising young player is one thing and addressing the needs of the team is another. this team has been crying for CBs since 2013/14, yet until now nobody has been held accountable. i wasn’t angry with Cahill yesterday, because it wasn’t his fault to still play for Chelsea when he has already shown signs of a decline.

    Both Courtios and De Bruyne were pushed by AVB. i remember him praising Courtois when he was signing for us. and in 2011/12 Champions league season he was asked about Debruyne and he replied, ” He (De Bruyne) is a player that we rate highly, he is a player that we have high hopes for” so anybody who disputes with that can research.

    i fully support Emenalo to be given the boot. and Conte to be allowed to do the business.

    #1241958

    nine nine nine
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    I think the most important aspect in all of this is that Conte has first say and last say on any players being bought for the first team squad.

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    BlueLion
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    I think its fair to say that nobody outside of the club really knows who is responsible for particular signings and who should be held accountable for the current state of the team. I can’t say I’ve ever warmed to Emenalo or understood how a man of such inadequate credentials ever got such a role at a club the size of Chelsea. But I do think its rash to single him out for praise or criticism for particular signings or lack of signings when none of us really know the clear roles of several members of the board or the hand they have had in our current state.

    But I agree 100% with 999 – Conte should have complete control of all comings and goings for the squad.

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    NIBlue
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    So Michael_nri you incorrectly credit Emenalo with scouting and recruiting 3 players. 2 who no longer play for us and one who does but is now having serious questions asked about his ability. Okay so lets give him credit for all the signings and lets include, Marin, Atsu, Van Ginkel, Cuadrado, Salah, Romeu, Hector, Filipe Luis, Rahman, Djilobodji …. and those are only the ones I can think of of the top of my head, a cocktail of one season wonders, loanees (who cannot get on the starting eleven of so called lesser clubs) and misfits. I haven’t even looked at the Coaches targets that he has been unable to sign, and instead of signing no one insists is signing substandard players, the knock on effect is that the youth are set further back in breaking through! Which in turn covers off the issue of the deadwood as you call it, Emenalo has not signed enough players of suitable quality to replace the Deadwood!!!! But apart from that……. he is doing a very good job!!!

    #1242294

    Badtypefella
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    what will it help getting Emenalo out his not the manager or coach or a player on the field, if he does damage no-one for certain can say what he is doing wrong if anything. The players are all current or ex internationals as is the manager in a playing and coaching field so they are to blame, Mourinho messed up big time last year and its going to take a monumental effort to get it all on track again.

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    Wise-fan
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    So isn’t Emenalo responsible the recruitment of, Hazard, Costa, Fabregas, Willian, Moses, Courtois, Oscar, Azpilicueta, Kante, Batshuayi, Zouma, Lukaku as well as De Bruyne? i hate to be a hypocrite always. when players are good they are attributed to the manager at the helm. but when players fail to adapt they are attributed to Emenalo. tell me who picks the same team that has been losing for the past 18 months? who picks Ivanovic always? who picks Cahill always? who always fails to integrate the promising young players that Emenalo and his team scout and sign? who has allowed De Bruyne and Lakaku to escape from our gasps? who is keeping Loftus-Cheek on the bench, yet picking Oscar and Matic consistently? who is picking out of form Willian yet keeping an inform Moses on the bench? Aina Ola has been showing signs of promise in preseason, and we finally thought we have our answer at right back cover. yet he is failing to break in to the team even though his performances merited. why are young players preferring City, Arsenal and Liverpool? its because they have a management that trusts young players. Emenalo’s blame is only that Chelsea lost a game. but the problem is deeper than recruitment alone. we have already a CB that is playing for a CL side. why wouldn’t he be recalled to his parent club, when push comes to shove, we shouldn’t care about other club’s interest.

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    BlueLion
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    I do agree that a lot of damage was done by Mourinho in his second term with us. Prior to his return, we were building a squad of young talented players from around Europe that could have developed further and gelled into a team, wether Emenalo should be credited with this, who knows. Unfortunately Jose saw fit to sell most of them off and replace them with older, sub-standard players.

    It’s hard to overstate how damaging to the current team and the long-term plan for building the squad this has been, but it has to be said it has set us back a few years in terms of where we should be now. Conte has a lot of work to do, but I believe he can do it if given the chance to put his own players and tactics in place.

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    The problem is the club! The only constant in the time emenalo has been here, has been the cpub itself (board, Roman) perhaps all the rags were right and clueless old man thinks he’s playing football manager for real? It would ho a long way to explain the bone idleness to replace obvious players.

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    Personally I do not think that anyone has any real idea how the Club is run, who reports to whom and where the real power lies

    For me I believe that since the arrival of Roman we have had a revolving managerial door and when we have a void, Roman identified the need to have some kind of cover in case deals could be done

    Rightly or wrongly Emenalo seems to be the man put in that role and IMO, while mistakes have been made, clearly good purchases have been made as well over the years. I just do not believe that all blame can be laid a his feet as I am sure there are many more factors in place regarding our overall transfer policy. KTBFFH

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    nine nine nine
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    Two very poor consecutive summer transfer windows where bar Kante we have failed to sign a definite starter has cost us dearly as has not identifying and purchasing the ideal replacement for JT over the past two summers..

    If I was Roman I would want a roots and branch investigation as to why we as a club have performed so poorly in those windows it might not all be Emenalo’s fault but as Technical Director he has a significant level of responsibility in failing to deliver the key players identified or their back ups.

    I dont believe any of Djilbodji,Hector or Rahman were the Managers signings and that is something that needs sorting out going forwards because all first team ins and outs should be the Managers decision only.

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    If you don’t believe that Djilbodji,Hector or Rahman weren’t the Manager’s signings, the you should also have to believe that Costa, Hazard, Willian, Fabregas, Azpilicueta, Kante and Courtios were also not the Manager’s signings.

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    nine nine nine
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    Wise fan, it’s a matter of public record that the Manager knew nothing about Djilobodji, he clearly never fancied Rahman who was bought in allegedly by a combination of Grant and Emenalo but no Manager has fancied Rahman and I doubt he had a clue about Hector either.

    I don’t have a problem with the Technical Director with the vast scouting network working under him recruiting future young prospects from around the globe, that should fall under the TD’s area.

    However as I stated in my post above I strongly believe that the Manager should have the first say and the last say on any player bought in to be part of the first team squad.Funnily enough as I remember it based on your previous posts that was your view too!☺

    #1244238

    nine nine nine
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    1905@2:32pm I think you’re spot on there mate but too many mistakes have been made in our transfer dealings over the last few windows which is why I think Roman should be taking a very close look at what’s gone on and who has been responsible for what because something needs to change.

    I find it quite worrying that Chelsea have spent circa £120m this summer and currently only Kante is a guaranteed starter and last summer we spent £60m with no guaranteed starters. So £180m over two windows and currently only Kante a guaranteed starter.

    #1244601

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    I think the club was hoping the damage caused to the squad was all Mourinho, but it evidently wasn’t all Jose.

    Looking at the players conte seems to be taking exception with if his subs are anything to go by are our attackers. The pack of defenders isn’t allowing for any change their.

    The club have messed up big time, how do u have a happy squad or a strong spine when both your GK and St want to leave for the same team! Why do we have ANY players in our squad who plainpy don’t want to be their!

    Matic also was made to stay, and fabregas if the media are to be believed , with so many starters looking to leave why are we expecting anything more than pationless performances when the ppayers have already made their feelings heard…..publicly. of course Costa now at least seems to have accepted he’s here at least for this season.

    #1244739
    Wise-fan
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    I’m not a fan of Emenalo, but i hate to be a hypocrite all the time. i’m not sure if Emenalo has the powers to go out and sign players without the manager’s input. but still that doesn’t stop people from slaughtering Emenalo, why? because he is our TD or DF whichever way you call it.
    When we sign a world beater it has be the manager’s signing, if we sign a flop, well that is for Emenalo. i still have the views that we should abolish this role and hand the control back to Manager. if as we are led to believe Djilbodji,Hector or Rahman were Emenalo’s signings then, i have nothing to doubt that, Hazard, Costa, Fabregas, Zouma and Kante were his signings also.
    Because we can’t bend the rules every time. to avoid confusion and victimisation Conte has to take full control and anything that goes wrong must be attributed to him like when things go better is attributed to him.
    And lastly i would hate to do the work of Emenalo. because the man is the worst person in the world as at today.

    #1244781

    nine nine nine
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    Wise fan, as stated in my post above I don’t think any of us truly know how Chelsea are organised when it comes to doing our transfer business but what we do know is that the club have been wholly unsuccessful in achieving it’s transfer targets over the last two major summer windows and personally I think Roman should be digging deep to find out why that is because we can’t continue to keep failing in the transfer market the way we have over the last two major summer windows.

    I don’t think that it’s Emenalo’s job to identify transfer targets for the first team or to go out and sign players for the first team it is his job to take the Managers wish list and get the majority of those signings over the line which for whatever reason hasn’t been happening over the last two major summer transfer windows and it has left the first team squad in a very weak position.

    I’m not a particular fan of Emenalo and I don’t think he has the background on his CV to be sitting in the position that he does at Chelsea but that’s not my point my point is that we as a club should be investigating how and why we have failed so badly in the last two major transfer windows and we should be doing something about it to ensure we don’t continue to fail and alongside that I don’t want to see a Technical Director credited with identifying and signing any first team players whether they are good or bad signings because in any sensibly run club that is and should be the responsibility of the Manager and the Manager alone. Which seemingly you agree with!?

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