FSG out

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    Wise-fan
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    I will be interested to know what other aspects are used to measure attacking players. could you please enlighten me what other measures do we use. because i don’t remember a United midfielder with loads of assists right?

    #1443218
    hatters
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    @wise-fan. The Manchester United attacking midfield has bad stats all round except Mata and maybe Mkhitaryan considering the extended period for which he was dropped.

    Attacking midfielders are primarily measured by goals and assists for me.

    Liverpool’s attack is much more fluid than Manchester United’s without a natural striker so it follows that they have a more even spread of goals among attackers.

    Manchester United, however, have a reliable goal scorer in Zlatan like all Mourinho teams so we don’t need as many from midfield to win games.

    #1443278
    Wise-fan
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    @hatters, tend to agree with you on that one. Ibrahimovic is head and shoulders above everyone at both Liverpool and United. but when you look at the rest its even. while Mata, Makhritayan and Pogba are good. Liverpool wins in attacking mid department with Lallana, Coutinho Mane. defence its 2 by 2. with Milner and Matip with Bailey and Vlanecia. De Gea is the Clear winner.

    #1443279
    Johnny Utah
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    Hatters, hasn’t Jose said he wants 4? My guess is its a centre back, an attacking midfielder and two central midfielders.
    That will obviously change if Zlatan leaves. It sounds like he wants to go. He also might go for a left back but he would need to get rid of a lot of average left / right backs first.

    #1443312
    the specialone
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    Hardly FSG’s fault.They appointed one of the best managers in the world in Klopp.You guys might not see progress but I see it big time at your club.I urge you guys to have patience.I think Klopp has money available and he’s waiting to spend it at the right time on the right players.

    I follow your club closely,I can honestly say I’m ever so impressed.Look at your performances,dominant.I think fundamentally your performance and results against big sides.If you can beat the top teams, then you know for sure not only the quality is there but the mentality as well.The only think missing is consistency which will come with time.

    #1443313

    CM
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    Johnny-

    Jones unfortunately is injured again.

    #1443340

    mufc
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    Jones and Rojo are the best partnership we have had this season, was quite shocked during that stint they had togeather.

    #1443351
    thekickoff
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    FSG have backed Klopp heavily in the market therefore any performance problems lay at his feet. Klopp had a good foundation at Dortmund, pre-tenure behind the scenes changes, that enabled him to build a fantastic team. It’s not like he has a bad team at Liverpool, just that his defensive coaching needs scrutiny. Klopp seems to have strange focus on only rallying the troops for the teams in and around them however those in the bottom 5 especially he seems to assume a win will be the outcome but results in high profile losses. The improvements must come from Klopp, his staff and the players, not the owners.

    #1443353
    steveosnakeeye
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    Hatters….Coquelin is bang average, a very decent quad player but no more than that

    #1443359
    Johnny Utah
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    He is still better than Fernando though lol

    #1443365

    nine nine nine
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    Liverpool’s poor results v the lesser sides and their good results against the top sides suggest that there is a mentality issue at Liverpool they raise themselves v the top teams yet struggle against the lesser teams and I’m fairly certain that we will see a different Liverpool v Arsenal than the one we saw v Leicester.

    Offensively particularly up to Christmas Liverpool have looked like the best side in the PL but Liverpool always look capable of conceding goals, are particularly vulnerable to crosses and overall defensively they are fragile and are on target to concede another 50 goals again in the PL this season.

    Liverpool suffer from the same problems that they did under Rodgers and until Klopp sorts out their defensive issues their progress will be hampered.

    #1443377
    steveosnakeeye
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    thats us fooked then! unless we sack AW as someone posted on our page

    FROM PHEMLABUSH:

    Swansea FC sacked their coach and won the next game against Liverpool

    Hull City sacked their coach and won the next game against Liverpool

    Leicester City sacked their coach and won the next game against, guess who…. Liverpool.

    Liverpool plays Arsenal next… Wenger should just be sacked so that we can win. Besides, no way out..

    made me chuckle but about the only we will win against them on Saturday

    #1443424

    nine nine nine
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    Stevo, Lol! 🙂

    #1443425

    nine nine nine
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    Stevo, Lol! 🙂

    #1443438

    Manthistle
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    steveosnakeeye – Phelan was sacked on the 4th Jan. They didn’t play Liverpool until the 4th Feb. Bradley was sacked on the 27th Dec but they didn’t play Liverpool until the 21st Jan.

    #1443446
    steveosnakeeye
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    blimey MT dont spoil it, i took it and gave it as a slight amusement. im guessing you used to a milk monitor (if your old enough) 😉

    Fair play though!

    #1443466

    Sean the sailor
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    ye but manthistle, we played swansea in clements 2nd league game. He was there a few weeks to get his ideas across. same with silva. Hull and swansea were absolutle tripoe before they made their manager changes

    #1443561
    notnice
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    its a normal trend players usually though not always respond to a new manager-it does not mean his a better manager but merely that a change can make a difference most of the times, however it also does not mean that positive results will remain in the longer run. At the end of the day 3 teams must go down. personally I think its very unfair as the teams that replace them are not stronger. I think a better system would be 1 automatic down and up and the other teams that finish 2nd and 3rd in the Championship play off with the teams that finish 2nd and 3rd last in the Premier.

    #1443566
    notnice
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    teams that end up 4th and 5th and 6th do not deserve to be in a play off contention for PL-its ridiculous.

    #1443575

    mufc
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    For the betting man who likes a punt, Rafa back at Liverpool this summer. Worth a punt, check the oddsm

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