Giroud The Afc Scapegoat.

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    steve68
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    it’s shameful that when we lose that giroud seems to get the blame for it.
    what chances did he have last night?absolutely none but some just seem to want
    to blame him for not beating the whole sot’on team on his own.
    the transition from midfield to him was so poor even the top strikers in this
    world would have struggled.i’m all for buying better players than what we have
    got if we can get them,but carragher is spot on when he said after the likes
    of messi,suarez,lewandoswki and one or two more,then giroud is in the next
    category.what we need is another striker who can share the workload that a
    season’s demands.i think it’s all because giroud is not so pleasing on the
    eye or is a player who just rely’s on service but so did strikers like smith,
    stapleton.he had a stinker of a game but so did everyone else other than,
    may’be,monreal who looked slightly better than the rest for me.i’m not relating
    to anyone on here but i still here other afc wanting to mention giroud.honestly
    don’t get it.bet you if he scores 20 prem lge goals and wins us the prem lge
    he won’t get a mention.he’s knowhere near as bad as some make out.it’s just his
    style of play.that’s a shame.

    #760697

    the bsm walk
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    You’re right Steve, but I can’t remember who lambasted Giroud for our poor performance? Certainly, I wasn’t one of them. You’re also spot on about his style of play, I think when it doesn’t come off for him, the way he’s built – it doesn’t look slick or elegant, rather sloppy, lackadaisical etc. One thing though he needs to cut out is constantly trying those cute one twos around the corner, fine if they come off but sometimes he’s better to hold the ball up and try to turn or make a simple pass. Giving away needless possession! Mate, I don’t know if you’ve read about our stats since Coquelin has been away, shocking reading!

    #762440

    steve68
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    my lad was at the southampton game and just told me on the way out
    some fans were moaning about giroud.i’m all for it if’s it’s justified.
    just think no matter how good or bad he plays some just want to target
    him and i think thats a shame because we must all judge every result
    and performance on it’s merit.thankfully it’s just a minority that
    just single out one player when the whole team were rubbish that night,
    mate.

    #763748
    AndyC
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    Giroud gets more flak than most because he is the striker and we have been blessed with strikers in the past who were able to pull the team through games we were crap in (wright, Anelka, Henry) Those 3 won games with only 1,2 or 3 chances even if we played rubbish. Giroud unfortunately for him doesnt have that ability in his locker. A good striker he is, and when he is in a purple patch he is awesome but when it isnt going his way he is nowhere to be seen and offers less than nothing to the team. This is where peoples frustrations come from. I like Ollie but for me he will and should only be option b, he lacks the quality needed to lead the line for team who ambitions should be to win the league and CL (not just one or the other but both comps). If we had someone’s ability of say higuain, benzema, players who have that ability to score when they only have 2 chances a game we would win alot more. The amount Ozil puts on a plate for our strikers and they dont finish is shameful, and that not me picking out Ollie that goes for theo as well. We need a top striker and we need to spend big on someone who can deliver and change a game, there is few out there who can but we can sign them and should go for them.

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    AndyC
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    Just to add from that, the Southampton game was a disgrace across the board. Not one single player had a good game.

    #764081

    Canglo
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    La la la lalalala…….

    #764372
    Henrykele
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    I think Giroud should be given more chance, there are not much strikers out there better than he is, even if there are they willing 2 jump ship? Or can we afford them.

    #764618

    New Era
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    Giroud is a 15m striker, no better, no worse, and unfortunately for every Olympiakos game, there’s too many Southampton games.

    He’s a one dimensional player, a decent one at what he excels in, great physical presence, strong in the air, solid target man, fair finisher, but those qualities when playing for Arsenal as a no1 aren’t enough, as rightly pointed out by HULK. His total lack of pace and skill are HUGE limitations to his game, you can’t just overlook that in a modern striker, they are core qualities to what makes a great player.

    Here’s a little evidence to support my assertion:

    Giroud’s assist for Ozil on the weekend was his FIRST all season. And last season, he managed ONLY 3 in the league and 1 in the FA cup (zero in Europe). All in all thats 5 in 42 games, 1 in 9 more or less. He’s got players like Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott and Ramsey around him, staggerring that he doesn’t have more.

    Though I wouldn’t mind that poor return if he created his own chances, converted more, or scored from unlikely situations BUT he doesn’t do any of that, not even his most ardent fan can argue that he does. So unless he’s being set up, he’s VERY ineffective and won’t influence the game in other ways. One dimensional anyone? I know he holds up the ball well, but that’s a fundemental of the game, it shouldn’t be viewed as such a vital asset.

    I get frustrated because I know HOW GOOD THIS TEAM COULD BE, with a better striker. It doesn’t have to be a Lewandowski, Suarez or Messi, honestly it doesn’t, we’d improve so much with someone that was just more rounded, more mobile and more creative. It’s such a pity Welbeck is out this season, he could’ve really brought this team on. They don’t even have to match Giroud’s scoring record, because the REST OF THE TEAM WOULD SCORE SOOOOOO MANY MORE.

    As for there not being any decent strikers, look at what Vardy has done in the league, this guy was a nobody and has bagged goals for fun, it doesn’t take a superstar in this league to score, so stop believing the bandwagon that Giroud is a good as they come outside the elite band of strikers, that’s a Wenger myth.

    (But for the record, Giroud as a number 2 striker would be a great option, like Solkjaer was for United or Flo for Chelsea, that’s where his value should lie to this team).

    #764678

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    We should always be on the look out for a better striker. However, there are few world class strikes in the world, and even fewer who would be available to transfer. To put it into perspective, only Aguero is of world class quality in the premier league.
    Then you have the obvious candidates at Barcelona, Bayern Real Madrid. So Lacazette and perhaps Aubameyang are the only players available who are better than Giroud. Yet their goal scoring records to not set them aside.

    As for the likes of Cavani, Higuain, Martinez supposedly being better than Giroud, im not convinced at all.

    Although one thing that cannot be denied, is Giroud has some stupid critics. When you think over the past few years, the likes of Remy and Bony were suggested as improvements.

    #764684
    LukeDw1986
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    Maybe Arsenal don’t always need an improvement, they could benefit from a different style of striker. It’s one of the main positions for me on the pitch that if you need a plan b bringing on a fresh striker can make the dif and think there is definite room for improvement in that department. Personally feel they could benefit from Lacazette, Morata, Dybala I even think Chicharito would be a handy player on the bench, though a few of those names would be expensive.

    #765599

    steve68
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    i agree with those who say we should always look to improve the squad,but
    that was not my point.on leaving southampton my lad said the debate amongst fans
    went something like this:,”wasn’t giroud s*it.to which another fan replied,”let’s
    all just blame giroud when the whole team was s*it”.i’m all for any fan
    having their point of view but it must be honest and justifiable.the whole team
    was s*it against southampton and not just one player.i’m not the BFG’S biggest
    fan but will not single him out but the whole team.i will stick with what i’ve
    said and that is we CAN win the prem lge with giroud up front,and that he can
    score 20 prem lge goals for us.if we can get better then i’m all for it,but i
    guarantee it won’t be our main problem if we do fail to win the prem lge.
    happy new year fellow goons.

    #766412

    New Era
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    Steve yes we probably can win the league but only because the top teams this year are so poor, we wouldn’t in most other seasons.

    As for Arsenal fans making him the scapegoat, for me it’s a sign of frustration. We’ve not had a great CF for 3yrs and Giroud is a constant reminder of that. Patience wears more thin the longer he keeps the role.

    To be fair it’s not his fault, the lad tries, the frustration should be directed to Wenger for not addressing the issue.

    #766748

    mightygunner
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    What do fans expect for £12 million? For that money giroud has been brilliant.

    #767783
    Arsenal_FC
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    Looking at the stats, Giroud has improved significantly over the years. specifically on his shooting accuracy. Currently he boasts on 53% shooting accuracy in the league. However still short compared to Lukaku who has 55%, Vardy who has 59%, Kane who has 65% and Aguero who has 66% shooting accuracy. Moreover most of Giroud’s shots are from inside the area, out of 49 shots he made so far, 47 of them are from inside the area and only 2 are from outside the area. Giroud currently is sixth best scorer in the league, with 10 goals out of 19 appearances.

    So to define him as a quality striker, there’s still room for improvement that he needs to work on, but he’s 29 at the moment so we can’t expect much can’t we? I believe it’s only normal for us to get frustrated at times but to make him as a scapegoat is just not acceptable. What we really need is a top class striker, not sure if any is available but like it or not he’s the best striker we’ve got at the moment.

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