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  • #1288371
    alex_the_red
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    6 games without a win. Is it just the players he has at his disposal? Are the teams just much more competitive in the Prem than the Bundesliga or La Liga? Does he know how to adapt his tactics to a harder rougher brand of football? Does City need to bin a few of the vets that could be holding them back?

    #1288419
    redblood
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    Lol.

    #1288449
    banjo_chuckers
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    You’d think they were bottom of the table or something…

    #1288461
    alex_the_red
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    Hey hey, let’s keep it professional here. What is the biggest factor in this slump for City?

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    Poor run and they are still top bud. Agree players look like they are struggling and teams have sussed them out, but he needs to make this squad his own. Some do not suit his style.

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    fergiesarmy
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    Will win league bye 6 points

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    AshCFC
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    what up Alex. I will do you the courtesy of answering your questions, albeit just imho:

    1. No, I don’t think so. There’s plenty of talent there and he’s spent a few quid already.
    2. Yes they are. The huge amount of TV cash each Prem team receives enables even those fighting for Prem survival to invest in some decent players and therefore have the talent to spring a few surprises when catching the big guns on an off day.
    3. This is your most interesting question imho. I don’t think Pep has or has ever had a plan B. Similar to Arsene, the man is a football romantic who believes passionately in the purity of his philosophy. I don’t think he’ll allow his football idealism to be compromised in order to grind out a few tough wins, and that inability to bend just might be his Achilles heel.
    4. Every team has a few of those bro 🙂

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    shanksy
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    As CM says bad run but still top. Going through what every team does in a season but far too much quality for it to last. As for Pep you don’t achieve what he has without being a little bit special. Yes the Prem is a little tougher but he will soon adapt. As for this “no plan b” shite he doesn’t need it, nor does Klopp. There is no such thing as an infallible system. When managers lose that’s all you hear and it’s bollocks. If parking the bus and boring the balls off every living thing within a hundred miles of the match is a plan b you can stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.

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    alex_the_red
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    Cheers Ash. I think this City side is far less capable of playing Peps preferred brand of football compared to the Barca and Bayern sides he inherited. I think players like Kolarov, Clichy, Fernando, Sagna, and Zabaleta need replacing. Liked the look of the two youngsters Muffeo and Garcia, the latter particularly stood out. They are top of the league, but out of a cup competition now and could possibly be getting knocked out of the CL again in the first round if they can’t find their form. Good luck City ?

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    mufc
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    One thing he won’t get away with in the prem which worked in other leagues is playing full backs and midfielders at CB.

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    MrMakaveli
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    Massively over-rated manager, who hasn’t taken a risk in his career so far. he got a start at Barca during potentially their best times ever, with the worlds best ever player. he then goes to Bayern, who had just won everything.

    Now he’s gone to Man city, who have an amazing array of talent and the biggest coffers on the planet if needed.

    This is the PL though and he’ll be found out here.

    #1289139

    mufc
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    Give him time, he needs to build his own team. Does he have a history of spending big? Not sure he does.

    Anyway its to early to write him off.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    he has his first true test in management with an ageing squad and many mediocre players, that said there are some real gems and by the end of next summer you would expect this squad to look and be playing very differently, all that said they are top they started amazingly setting anew record for themselves, look at who they have lost to or not won against and its not overly surprising really no one has a god given right but he will turn this around and at least he carries himself well and is dignified in defeat so means he will get the time he needs to get this team playing as he wants, good times ahead for city im sure its all going on behind the scenes too from youth to senior so the blueprint he sets down could last a long time

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    Gibbo
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    Mr Mak, it’s a bit of a stretch to say he is over rated. You mention he has taken over barca and then bayern but what manager wouldn’t? He was hardly going to say no thanks and want to manage a lower team. Even so when he took over both clubs he kept them at their best which is a good sign. He has man city playing better than last year (maybe u disagree). Many managers have come in to good clubs and made them worse. I’m not saying he is the best thing since slide bread just think it’s harsh to criticise him for taking over the best teams when its an opportunity no one would pass up

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    banjo_chuckers
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    Still top of the table chaps, he must be rubbish right? Some knee-jerk comments on a sarcastic thread (come on Alex, we all know there is a hint of mischief here! 🙂 ).

    Apart from possibly YooUtd, cause they have The Not-As-Special-As-He-Used-To-Be, who wouldn’t want him in charge of their clubs?

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    steveosnakeeye
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    Banjo, did you see the Maureen downgraded to adequate one post from the daily mash? 🙂

    #1289232

    Sean the sailor
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    this is peps biggest test. Look how tight is at the top at the moment? Barca had only real and atheltico to deal with and munich only had dortmund. City are up againest 4/5 clubs now. We really will find out how good a manager he is over the next few years. I like watching city play. He makes some bizarre decisions with formations and players etc but he has balls. He takes risks and tries new things. Thats great to see

    Cm, i agree a few players are not pep players but i really didnt think nolitio was a pep player yet he bought him? At the moment none of cities signings have stood out. Gundogan has looked very tidy. They play such a risky game that the defence is left wide open at times. They need a fully fit kompany. Its still very early days. 3 weeks ago people were writing chelsea off. During the week it was utd. It can all chnage so quickly.

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    AshCFC
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    It’s naive in the extreme to think that top managers don’t need to be able to alter their team’s style of play at times in order to win games where their starting strategy isn’t working. Also, having a ‘plan B’ doesn’t need to imply parking the bus. For example, it could mean playing more directly instead of tiki taka’ing your way across the pitch lol

    I admire Pep’s single mindedness (as I do Arsene’s), but sometimes that self belief looks more like arrogance when a different approach is obviously needed.

    As for Klopp, lol at him being mentioned in the same sentence as Guardiola.

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    alex_the_red
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    Banjo – Mischief?! Me?! I resent such accusations.

    #1290852
    oscardairies
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    before the season starts… I said the players city had can’t withstand he’s intensive kind of play…January will do the business for him…if he is going to run away with the league.

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