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    the specialone
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    TheHulk – No You’re not beginning to see, and it’s you who singled me out so don’t when muffler also disagrees with you so don’t go on whinging.

    You said and I quote “Only 4 maybe 5 strikers I’d rather have than him, all of them are either not available or wouldn’t join us. Messi, Ronaldo, aubamayang, aguero and greizman.”.
    Anyone with half a brain would figure means your rating lacazette as the 6th best striker in the world?.Right?Well forget neutral you tell that to an any arsenal fans and they’ll tell you it’s a ludricous statement to make.

    As for zlatan,I never said he scored +20 goals in past three season or you were wrong.But as muffler said, he has scored +20 in two seasons and 19 in one season only because he played a lesser number of games.How easily you zlatan couldn’t even do that!!!For goodness sake he got 39 goals in his last season there!!!Has lacazette ever done that.I mean really,I can’t even believe I’m having this conversation with You.Even making a case for zlatan being better than lacazette.It’s madness.

    As for the forum idiot bsm walk,I’ve stopped reading into his posts long time ago.The more I read, the more of my time gets wasted.The most senseless of argument someone who loves to poke their nose into others.Waste of time!!

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    AndyC
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    buts its only the french league so it doesnt count. Mate, your logic is so flawed its embarrassing.
    I would leave this alone if you had any sound logic to back up anything you are saying but you dont. You are literally saying anyone that scores goals in france isnt that good because the league is too easy. Then you point to Zlatan and how he scored 39 goals in one season and im gassuming here you think he is a very good striker? but dismiss a player who has scored more in that ‘easy league’. Yet you dismiss the fact that only messi and ronaldo scored 30 plus goals in la liga and have done so for the last 5 + years. So by your logic and we are only going by your logic here, that would mean that league is too easy and we should dimiss any other player who consistently scores goals or perhaps because Greizman doesnt score 30 + goals like the other 2 isnt actually that good?
    You cannot sit there and say a player who has scored goals at every international level, has the best conversion rate of any striker in the top 5 european leagues, who has consistently banged in 20+ goals in what is a average side, has a 1 in 1 record for the europa league. and say he isnt big a step up. Nothing and i mean nothing backs up what your saying. Im not a big fan of stats but a striker lives and dies by one stat and thats goals, lacazette delivers that and some.
    If you can back up your loose side with any form of substance i would take you seriously but you cant, havent and wont be able too.

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    No one is doubting he can score goals im sure he can but you do not know he is a big step up because he has not played anywhere else than in Lyon. Nor do I know how he will do here. 1 goal in 11 games for France I would not call that banging in goals. He might do better here or he might do worse who knows time will tell and if he signs he deserves a change and I will give him that. But for that price tag can he handle that pressure? Im not convinced yet. He doesnt lite the fire for me as he apparently does for you so we can agree to disagree. I will say though that I have seen players bang in goals left and right in one place and fail in a new club in a different country so its a gamble that can be a success or a big waste of money

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    the specialone
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    theHulk – I’ll give you an honest suggestion.Sit down with a calm mind and read all of my posts on this thread regarding this particular topic!Because it certainly seems your not understanding me or simply choose to ignore my points to win your side of the argument.

    Yes,I do think that the french ligue is easier to score goals in than most other leagues, definitely much easier to score goals in than the top leagues.(Premier league,La liga,Serie A).Now I see that you bring messi and ronaldo in the debate.Saying they score 30+ goals in La liga every season.Well,let me tell you one thing.Your talking about two of the best players in the world who have a separate category for themselves which no one else falls under.They score 30+ in la liga,I’m sure if either of their teams were in ligue 1 they would individually get 45+ goals every season, easy.That’s how good they are.Greizmann?I don’t know your judgement skills and albeit a fantastic player he is not as good as them, no one is get that through your head!!

    All leagues are different from one another,added to the fact that certain players play for teams much better than others.So in summary, yes ligue 1 is easier to score goals.To make it more simpler for you, if lacazette scored 28 goals in ligue 1,then I would say he would score between 15-20 in the PL.Again this is all what I predict,But again if we already have giroud averaging 16 to 17 goals in the PL then what’s the use of lacazette.

    As for zlatan,I am making a case for him being better than lacazette by saying if laca got 28 goals than zlatan got 39 goals in one season, making him a better striker.Honestly,I say this for your own good don’t even start a comparison between lacazette and zlatan on the main board you’ll get lambasted by even saying lacazette is better than zlatan or that he’s the 6th best striker in the world.

    Problem with you is that you take stats so much into consideration.But stats never tell you the full story!Is getting 20+ goals impressive.Yes I would say it is, regardless of whichever league you play in.But it dosen’t make you one of the best strikers in the world.

    I ask you one question, if you think lacazette is so so good or such a massive upgrade(and your even willing to take currently on 4 or 5 strikers over him),why isn’t he selected for the french national team.Don’t feed me that bullshit about him not fitting their system, if a player is that good(well atleast how much ever your making him out to be),then the coach finds a way to put him in.And in this case, all he has to challenge his place with is giroud!!Or why are top managers overlooking him when they clearly need strikers as well??

    Just FYI,I’m not saying he’s a bad player.He’s a good striker you can’t overlook his stats as well.But is he the one to take us to the next level?Not IMO.Is he worth so the money we pay for him?Not in my opinion.If he’s turned out a flop and next season we need a new striker then I don’t want wenger to tell the board the funds went towards lacazette so he’s not going to buy someone else!!!

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    Amz
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    You guys should go on AFTV.

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    the bsm walk
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    Lol. If Tso went on AFTV everyone would laugh at what he would have to say, that’s how stupid he is.

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    Al The Gooner
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    Great post Steve. We’ve had enough underwhelming signings, who have turned out to be absolute gold, that you’d think certain people would have learned their lesson by now.

    Only football nuts had heard of Henry or Vieira or Anelka or van pur$ie (and only a tiny fraction of them had ever heard of Giroud) before we signed them, yet here we actually have people whinging about a £50m signing, who everyone has heard of and comes with a great goalscoring record.

    The fact that goalscoring record is in an inferior league is mitigated by the fact that Lacazette will be surrounded by a much higher quality of player. Giroud’s average scoring record in Ligue 1 has pretty much translated to his goalscoring record here.

    There are never any guarantees (Torres anyone?) but Lacazette has far superior record than Ollie did in Ligue 1, so let’s at least give the guy a chance.

    What will be disappointing is if the club let Sanchez go because, as you say mate, that’ll be three steps back.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Congrats on the almost acquired Lacazette. I like this fella and he’ll score sacks for you lot.

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    As for the original post about our imminent signings. Lacazette seems to be done and dusted. He will score more goals, is someone who can play on the shoulder, run into channels,a constant threat, someone who will suit our quick game rather then giroud. So regardless of what ppl are saying on here he I said definitely a upgrade on giroud but I would look to keep giroud as a plan b unless we can try and recoup upwards of 25-30 million. maybe we could look to recouping some of the outlay with Perez and walcott. Thinking further ahead keeping Sanchez is paramount, if not signing mahrez plus another attacker would have to be a minimum. If we could sign Sanchez up and ship ozil out and replace ozil with the likes of a marhez or Lemar that would be close to a perfect result. Someone mentioned cazorla and finding a replacement gorezka(spelling) Would be a interesting player who I think would be attainable and is someone who I think would excel with xhaka in midfield. Defender wise I think we could do with a decent centre back to give holding a season to maybe improve into trying to claim a starting spot as Kos and mert won’t be around forever. Also I wouldn’t mind shifting chambers out but maybe he might be useful playing in the back 3 as even mert and Gabriel looked half decent playing with a bit of protection in te 3-4-3 formation

    #1501485
    Al The Gooner
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    We do like to drag out a transfer, don’t we?

    Lacazette is finally confirmed and is travelling with the squad to Australia, so we should get to see him in action next week. Can’t wait – not just to see our new signings, but I’m getting some serious footy withdrawal symptoms.

    Welcome to Arsenal Alexandre and a belated welcome to Sead Kolasinac – now go win us a title please chaps!

    #1501928
    the specialone
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    Speaking of selling players and now that we’ve signed Lacazette.No matter what, selling sanchez would be five steps behind and selling even giroud would we two steps behind.We can’t afford to lose important players.Sanchez,well he’ll have to reduce his wage demands as it looks like no one is willing to pay what he’s demanding.And Giroud,I would say is probably the most important squad player.

    A front three of Lacazette,Giroud and welbeck gives you various options especially in terms of dynamism.All are different in their own way,which is why it’s vital to lead the squad with all three.You sell either of them and again it’s steps back.

    One player we should sell and because he deserves playing time is Lucas perez.I remember this debate went on months into last season,where I had simply questioned his signing and 90% of you lot told me to give him a chance.Now we have a £17m striker who is heading into the season probably knowing he’s going to be 4th chouce.and I was definitely right.I actually like the player,I only questioned his signing as i didn’t see him get that much game time and we’ve wasted that money now because I can’t see a club especially like ours(who is worst at transfer dealings and valuations) will not recover that money.Daniel levy or Ed woodward would, but not gazidis or sir chepswick or whoever the hell actually runs these things.

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