Is 4-2-3-1 dead? How Conte is restoring Chelsea to greatness

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    James Marshment
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    Antonio Conte is returning Chelsea to greatness with a 3-4-3 formation. Matt Briggs details the changes he has made and heralds his vision.

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    CFC1905
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    I think it is a bit heavy to say it is dead but obviously ManU are not firing on all cylinders so possibly it is questionable

    I would suggest if you had the correct players then any system will work. KTBFFH

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    Trebor
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    depends on a lot of factors I suppose-also eventually you will need different formations for different opposition once they work out a succesfull counter

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    liquidator
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    The more a system is used, the more the opposition know how to combat it. Right now 4-2-3-1 has been over used, and by playing other formations you are able to give the opposition a set of problems they are not used to, and therefore find it more difficult to deal with. I suspect more teams will now line up with three at the back, but eventually it will become stale, and some bright young coach will re-invent a previous system to surprise everyone all over again.

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    Chelsea.man
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    James, I will be too cautious to say 4-2-3-1 is dead. there may be instance where it may be useful playing. for example when facing high caliber opposition who has the ball all the time like Barca and Bayern. i think in this case its worth giving a shout. but in the PL? i’ m not so sure of it. since we switched to this 3-4-3 formation we have blown away teams that we historically used to struggle against like Everton. but outside the PL our strengths still lie 4-2-3-1.

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    ayaj
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    The 3-4-3 formation seems to suit chelsea perfectly and has freed the likes of hazard and perdro to cause defenses more problems. I was initially skeptical about the formation but have now embraced it fully. We are playing some lovely free flowing football, creating lots of chances, scoring goals and keeping clean sheets. Happy days!

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    Stuilse
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    No formation is ever dead. Whilst the 3-4-3 has proved to be a raging success so far there will be times when a manager will change things up dependent upon the opposition and the strategy they deploy. Formations may even be changed multiple times during games…when there’s a need to attack more, close up shop, create more space, dominate midfield, change a style or strategy or simply just change things up to surprise the opposition. We may start with 3-4-3 and then change back to a 4-2-3-1 later on in the game. Football and formations should be fluid and not set in stone. Adapting to the opposition and situation at hand is key and that’s what separates the good managers from the great!

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    phwepsi
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    Bit of a stupid statment really and quite a easy answer. You need certian type of players to fit the system and obvsiouly we didnt (or have got rid of) alot of the players that dont fit 4231
    We have been constantly getting caught out down the wings with this formation as our fullbacks have been constantly targeted (ivan) and witht the likes of hazard perdo and willian not been anle to defend it just wasnt working for us. However if your byern then you have th players to suit the system.
    I honestly didnt think 343 would work for us as we didnt have the right players but conte has pullwd it off

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    Udom Richard Ifeanyi
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    Right now 4-2-3-1 has been over used, and by playing other formations you are able to give the opposition a set of problems they are not used to, and therefore find it more difficult to deal with. I suspect more teams will now line up with three at the back. The 3-4-3 formation seems to suit chelsea perfectly and has freed the likes of hazard and perdro to cause defenses more problems. I was initially skeptical about the formation but have now embraced it fully. We are playing some lovely free flowing football, creating lots of chances, scoring goals and keeping clean sheets. Happy days!

    #1310556

    CFC1905
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    If you recall, under Rodgers, Liverpool reverted to a back 3 for a while and it worked for them

    I think most fans would be looking to integrate Zouma at some stage but we really have no idea if that would upset the current balance that we have and Zouma may not be able to adapt to a back 3 either – but we will have to give it a go

    Always wrong to change a winning formula but at the same time you like to buy or promote from within simply so that a squad/team does not stagnate or get complacent of their position. A fine balancing act but one that I am sure that Conte is pleased to have. KTBFFH

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    Amz
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    To say any formation is dead is a joke and that person doesn’t know anything about football. I might seem a bit harsh here but as mentioned in some posts surely people with some sort of logic will realise that any formation will work given the right players are in position?

    Everyone knows how Barca played under Pep yet not many teams beat them and they won all silverware put in front of them.

    Look at Man Utd under Fergie too, 4-4-2 for how many years?

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