Is a full blown crisis brewing?

This topic contains 8 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by AndyC AndyC 6 years, 5 months ago.

Viewing 9 posts - 1 through 9 (of 9 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1547719

    ahmad1973
    Participant
    • :

    Truthfully I do not feel one bit confident that we can get a result at Everton, despite the latter’s really poor form. We have played only two good games this season; at Stoke and Chelsea. These two games returned only one point! Our form has been mediocre since the start of season, and we are already out of league contention. Sanchez is not playing, so I wonder why he was kept when he clearly wanted out. We are going to rue the 60M that City were willing to pay last summer. Ozil rightly or wrongly has been made the scapegoat of our poor form. He will be off, and I am sure he will do well elsewhere. Good players do not become bad overnight. I personally think Ozil got fed up in the 2015/16 season. He was on fire, but our strikers could not hit a barn door with a banjo in the second half of the season. Even Sanchez was poor during the second half of that season. Here we are: two very good players will leave for free while we are still stuck with Wenger. When I read blogs now, folks do not comment about Arsenal. We have become irrelevant! A spent force; this is neat we have become.
    Hope I am wrong, but there is little to suggest that we are ready to turn the corner.

    #1548078

    ahmad1973
    Participant
    • :

    Glad I was wrong. The lads played well today. Fully deserved the win. Frustrated with the goal we conceded near the end though. Both Alexis and Ozil had good games. Was also glad to see Wilshere’s cameo.

    #1548214
    the specialone
    the specialone
    Participant
    • :

    We were the better team but we didn’t play that well today.We just don’t dominate games anymore and the chances if and when we create aren’t very clear cut.The red card basically swayed the game in our favor and up until then anything could’ve happened.I’d like to see us shift to the old formation.

    Not that I think this formation dosen’t work,after all chelsea won the PL with this.But there are certain factors to be fulfilled and I think we lack that with the current manager who is incapable to instill that.We lack a strong mentality and toughness,and replacements are not good enough.

    Just a couple of words on some players,Cech needs to be replaced.Too many mistakes recently and that was just unacceptable why is he directing monreal who to pass to he should be ready for the pass.Bellerin has just been woeful since a long time.Like i SAID,A change in haircut and boots needed and most importantly a change in his mentality.Koscielny not so good anymore.Mertesacker a poor excuse of a captain I really don’t know how long wenger will keep playing him.Xhaka too many mistakes as well recently but overall I feel he has the quality to succeed.And lastly lacazette needs extra training to make himself more useful on counters because he’s been pretty much useless until now in that respect which is what our game is based on.

    #1548426
    AndyC
    AndyC
    Participant
    • : AndyC

    TSO – i tried to bite my tongue but i cant with you as you talk absolute rubbish more often than not.

    Cech was not at fault for the second everton goal. I know you have a massive love in for Monreal, but that was all on him. Cech didnt call for, didnt want it and the pass was too short as it was. How anyone can look at cech for that is delusional. Although i do agree we need a new keeper, at the moment Cech is head and shoulders above anything else we have. If you tell me Ospina is good enough then im going to question your judgement even more.
    Bellerin, in fairness has been poor for about 6 months but the last month he has been playing better, he seems like he is getting back to some sort of form.
    Kos is hampered by an Achilles injury, he is going down the same road as Cazorla with his Achilles injury. Although he is still are best defender. Merts whilst not good enough for us is doing a job, mainly because wenger hasnt coached the younger players well enough and we havent signed the right defenders. I like BFG and i dont blame him for defensive frailties that lies with Wenger.
    Xhaka, i wont go into this too much but he is currently making a mistake that leads to a goal every game he plays. I said last season if you apply any form of pressure to him he crumbles and makes mistakes. Its not something new, he can hit 1 decent shot in 10 and make a 50 yard pass to an unmarked man whilst in acres of space. he is one of the worst signings we have made in recent times. We would be better off with him not in the team.
    Lacazette needs more time with the team, personally i would start him every game. At the moment he is playing with different players behind him week in week out. Yesterday was teh first time he had started with both Ozil and Sanchez! However to say he needs more training on counter attcking is laughable, we dont play counter attacking football, we havent since the invincibles and the change from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1 when wenger thought he could replicate Barcelona. We play side to side possession based football, thats slow and lethargic and have done for 10+ years now – do you even watch Arsenal?

    #1548611
    the specialone
    the specialone
    Participant
    • :

    Andy – Errr what!!!Please go and watch the replay again!!!!There was a clear form of miscommunication.However there is absolutely no way Cech should be telling monreal who to pass to!!!There was no pressure on Cech and although the pass was a bit short any goalkeeper could’ve easily cleared it.Cech’s positioning is horrendous at times as well.He’s a good keeper not going to deny but nowhere near he was the keeper at chelsea.
    As for ospina,you don’t need to convince me he’s the poorest of the lot and the biggest attention seeker in the team.

    I don’t agree about xhaka.No ways.Yes he’s made mistakes especially off late but you can’t deny his quality and under a better manager and better tactics he can be as imposing as anyone else.I feel though at times,he always asks for a pass under pressure.And when he looks up there’s no one to pass to and inturn loses the ball.Dosen’t hide but it needs to be sorted out!!

    Also to say that our we are not based on counter attacking football is actually even more laughable.I don’t deny we play side to side football.but especially since we shifted to this new formation the game is supposed to be based on defending well and counter.Just like chelsea and spurs!!

    #1548639
    AndyC
    AndyC
    Participant
    • : AndyC

    We are spurs or Chelsea mate. We do not play to counter and the formation we play is actually suited more to the possession game. Spurs can play counter attacking football as do chelsea, we do not. We haven’t for since the invincibles. We do not play counter attacking football, if we did it would be suicide (more so than now) our defence and midfield simply dont allow us to do this whatsoever.

    Cech, isnt up there with best any more, but there is no way he is at fault for that 2nd goal. He doesnt call for it, he didnt want it and teh pass was shit. That was all on Monreal. Bad decision from him. Cech was sold short and exposed but there is nothing new there. He consistently let down by the defence and midfield.
    Xhaka, we will never agree on. Most goons i know cant stand him. He is constantly giving away the ball. His awareness is next level bad, a blind man has better awareness than him. I wouldnt mind the mistakes if they didnt lead to goals or goal scoring chances which his more often than not do. I cant see what he offers to the team, Wilshere is much better player than him, i’d rather start el neny than Xhaka. 37 mil truly wasted on someone that doesnt show any signs of getting better. We have better and could have signed better for half the cost.

    #1549026
    the specialone
    the specialone
    Participant
    • :

    Andy – After the invincibles,it can be argued which style of football.I think most parts ours style was based on possession football.We basically use to pass sideways,going nowhere with it.And whenever we came under pressure or against a better team we use to always faulter.Wenger tried to make us a wannabee barcelona.And when he realized it was not working he tried a different approach where it was a pressing game less possession based and counter.Remember when we won 2-0 away at city when cazorla and giroud scored.It worked for a while.But today it simply can’t be argued that our game is based on a counter attack.We basically try to defend and there is that wide support of wing backs who’s priority is to defend but offer that attacking threat as well.We steal or intercept the ball,and then try our best to counter.Really,how in the world do you think it is possession based????Why don’t you compare our possession stats now and a couple of years ago.I guarantee now it is less than what it used to be without even checking.
    Speaking about our style of football,I still would like to see us move back to our own style.Mainly because most of the times our performances aren’t good enough and eventually we’ll get caught out.There are other factors as well involved though.Overall we’ve never really mastered anything,because this manger isn’t good enough if he ever was.

    I think I’ll just disagree with you on Xhaka.There’s a reason why he’s outstanding for his country almost everytime and it’s not because he’s poor.He needs to stop making mistakes,but you simply can’t judge him on mistakes.There are other aspects of his game that are great.
    Just one more last thing,please find a better defense to your argument than to say what most goners think.I’m not trying to be cheeky or arrogant but from the years I’ve posted here these most gooners(not directed at you!!) have been hypocritical,fickle and mostly wrong.I’ve heard wenger in and out so many times,although now it seems to be one way.They’ve also predicted so many things wrong,I still remember when they made a case for perez when I criticized his signing,or when they made a case for walcott to play upfront and most laughable was when they thought we’d win the title.

    #1549071
    the specialone
    the specialone
    Participant
    • :

    Also just wanted to add.I’ve watched the highlights of the game again.We were actually pretty good for once against everton.We had 22 attempts at goal.We limited everton to very few shots but still conceded.Saying all this as much I would like to credit our team everton’s defense was horrendous and if you do a goal by goal analysis it’s almost laughable how such good defenders are performing so poorly.

    Two things as well.One is Xhaka.You’re banging on him like he’s the worst midfielder in the PL.Well let me tell you that there could be a case argued that gueye fouled xhaka before he tackled the ball which fell to rooney.Even if you give gueye the benefit of the doubt,and think Xhaka made that error he still had a very solid game as mentioned by the commentator who is merely a neutral.He was also rated at 7.1 by whoscored.There were four players rated below him.Cech,Mertesacker,Koscielny and sead.First two who have actually been criticized by me a lot.Not using whoscored as some definite factor but they are facts and Xhaka possibly couldn’t perform as bad as you say.That’s the problem with you lot,judge him on one mistake.He’d made out to be a scapegoat now.

    Two is cech.If you notice very clearly.Monreal looks up and he literally has no one to pass to in the front.Niasse is pressurising him.He has two options either to clear the ball or pass it back to cech.Now I hate players who clear the ball nowhere if they have a player to pass to even if it’s a goalkeeper.Now I’m not denying that pass was a bit underhit but there’s no ways Cech couldn’t have cleared it.He actually made the exact same attempt to play fool of the striker very early on in the game and he went unpunished.So clearly he’s more at fault for that goal.

    If you disagree,watch the highlights extended one.If you still disagree,then I really don’t know what more to say.I’m making very valid and reasonable cases for my argument.

    #1549264
    AndyC
    AndyC
    Participant
    • : AndyC

    Style cannot be argues over mate. You are simply wrong, you cant take a few games out of 60 game season (all comps) and say we are a counter attacking team.
    Stop defending the indefensible. Monreal should have hit the channel or just cleared it, its last minutes of the game, and he invited the pressure and the chance. Should Cech been more alert to it, yes possibly but that doesnt change the fact it was the wrong thing to do and not only the wrong thing to do it was a terrible back pass.
    As for Xhaka, im not saying he is the worst midfielder in the league but he should not be in the starting 11. He is and was a waste of 37 million. He has looked like a 10mil player. He has not learned from any of his mistakes, he continues to make the same ones over and over again. Everytime he does we either concede or come close to conceding. dwelling on the ball, poor distribution, back heels in the box, standing and watching the game go by, runners breezing past him, charging in rather than tucking in. Conference players dont make mistakes like this as much as Xhaka does. He is a good squad player to have i dont doubt that but i rather have maitland-niles, El Neny, Wilshere in front of xhaka. thats just my opinioin and all gooners i go to games with all feel the same. you are 100% in the minority with your defence on him. He could play a 9 score 2 goals but he will still make big mistakes and the team will lose or draw. and its his mistakes that cause more issues than not.

Viewing 9 posts - 1 through 9 (of 9 total)

You must be logged in to reply this topic.