Is there a solution to modern day terrorism

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    mufc
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    Can the Western world really negotiate with modern day terrorists? If not, is it just going to be continuous killings? Or is there an actual solution?

    #1497748
    Dandy
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    You can’t negotiate with inbreds who believe an extreme religious idiology. Like all mutations​ they will die out. They will continue to commit Jihad until they are all dead, imprisoned or their religion is damaged to the point of no return. We are starting to see the seeds of Joe public fighting back and that’s when things really get ugly. It’s a sign that the public have no faith in our politicians ability to protect innocent lives and it will again open the door for right wing politics all over Europe who will fight religious extremism with hard line policies which will affect more than than just the guilty parties.

    The problem we have is a lot of western Muslims are sympathetic to the extremist action, believe homosexuality should be illegal and believe in a deity which is extremely ignorant and at odds with modern western culture. There are still many countries that haven’t evolved past such thinking yet whose culture would be more suited to extremists (Sharia law).

    #1497763
    Al The Gooner
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    The problem with ISIS is that there is no realistic end-game for them. Their stated goal is to establish a worldwide caliphate and that’s never going to happen.

    And it’s not just about wanting the West out of the Middle East, otherwise they wouldn’t be attacking fellow Muslims, in already Muslim countries, in Asia and Africa.

    News this morning is reporting that the Saudi’s have stopped a suicide bomber from attacking the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Nothing is sacred to these scumbags, even one of Islam’s holiest sites at one of Islam’s most important times of the year.

    Only way to deal with vermin like that is extermination – it’s time to take the gloves off.

    #1497871
    j c
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    Yeah, when muslim reformists who have a peaceful and tolerant message start becoming more celebrated in the muslim community… and militant muslims like Hezbollah become demonised by the muslim community, we’ll know we’re on the right path. At the moment, it’s the other way round. The muslim reformists seem to be the most hated and demonised muslims in Britain, among the muslim population.

    The recent Al Quds demonstration in London shows we’ve got a long way to go before we get to that point.

    #1497896

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    Dandy is right in his assertion that the current terrorist threat to this country and the Western world in general is driven by inbreeding.

    Close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan the number is closer to 70%. Even in England more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins. The numbers are equally devastating in other important Muslim countries; 67% in Saudi Arabia, 64%in Jordan and Kuwait, 63% in Sudan, 60% in Iraq, and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

    One of the consequences of inbreeding is severely lowered intellectual capacity. Indeed the risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as “retarded” increases by an astonishing 400% among children of cousin marriages. In England whilst Pakistanis are currently responsible for three percent of births they account for a staggering 33% of children born with genetic birth defects. Mental illness is also a product of inbreeding. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenia and criminal insanity.

    Unsurprisingly, children with low IQ are far more likely to drop out of school and have severely limited job skills, resulting in limited prospects for employment. Additionally inbred individuals are at risk of a wide range of developmental abnormalities that result in poor social skills, and a lack of empathy, amongst other things.

    Effectively these circumstances make for a substantial number of young Muslims with low self esteem. They perceive themselves to be failing miserably in the society in which they find themselves. They are ill equipped to do well in Western society, lacking the social skills to integrate with the indigenous population, and lacking the intelligence required to succeed at work. Add to that profile the mental illness issues and very quickly you  have an environment perfect for radicalisation.

    Unfortunately unlike other immigrants who have successfully integrated into Western societies, Muslims lack the capacity, by way of fourteen hundred years of inbreeding, to ever succeed in the competitive world in which they now find themselves. Unfortunately on that basis there really are no prospects for ever successfully accomodating Muslims into our society. They are, by way of a lack of intellect caused by the very nature of the inbreeding promoted by their religion, totally unable to integrate with the progressive ever developing high tech world in which they now find themselves.

    Interestingly Darren Osborne the terrorist involved in the latest atrocity at Finsbury Park, pretty much fits the above profile. Unsuccessful loser. Mental health issues. Few friends. No prospects. Dumb as a rock. Perfect material for radicalisation.

    #1498098

    Laughing Lenny
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    Too right Bloggy and Dandy!
    Make no mistake, these psychopathic inbred heathens who are free to flood in here from all over the place are ultimately after absolute control over every living soul. They are methodically undermining our and many other hopelessly fractured western societies.
    Things are seriously on the slide in all directions in this country and there’s nothing anyone can measure anymore. Our politicians are not fit for purpose and the entire system needs a complete revamp.
    Ever since I’ve been alive, I’ve seen nations rise and fall, I’ve heard the stories, heard them all, but I’ve never ever witnessed this country in such a serious fucking mess. Our pathetic government is letting us down daily, and as it is, there is justifiable reason to suggest and believe that their game is over. We ain’t going any further with Theresa the zombie and her bunch of self serving leeches!
    So get ready for the future boys, it is murder. The ancient western code that has lasted for at least most of our lifetimes is now broken, and there is no one I can see out there who has the slightest idea how to fix it.
    It won’t be long before our private lives will suddenly explode, there’ll be phantoms, there’ll be fires in the road, and Muslims dancing. You’ll see your women hanging upside down, their features covered by their fallen gowns. Put on your sunglasses, it’s gonna be dark and gruesome.
    It’s now down to Christ, Allah or Hiroshima? What a fucking dilemma!
    Peace and Love while it still lasts,
    Lenny.

    #1498144

    bloggy
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    Lenny, sometimes I worry that people don’t realise the seriousness of the situation in the UK, and that by the time they do the war will be over and the good guys will have lost. The fight is very much fixed and certainly the poor in this country will stay poor whilst the rich will continue to get rich. Seems everyone is only interested in talking to their pockets. Everyone wants a box of chocolates and a long stem rose.

    It must be obvious to everyone by now that the boat is leaking and the captain continues to lie. And like you mate I can see little if any hope for “The Future.” Personally I’ve got a broken feeling…like my Father or my dog just died…

    #1498370

    Laughing Lenny
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    Bloggy. We are obviously singing from the same hymn-sheet.
    It really beats me how nothing whatsoever has been done by government to prevent this disastrous Plague from spreading. Everybody must know by now that it’s moving too fast and pretty soon if we are not careful our sacred way of life will be nothing more than a shining artefact of the past.
    I fear it could already be too late. The dice are loaded and everybody’s just rolling with their fingers crossed waiting for a Miracle to come. I’m not holding my breath.
    I’d hoped that the past would last a bit longer before the darkness arrived. The present’s not that pleasant, and the way things have been allowed to slide in all directions, the future really could be murder.
    Taxi anyone?
    Lenny.

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    j c
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    I think France is a little glimpse of what to expect in our country under EU leadership, since they were a bit further ahead than ourselves in terms of their ‘cultural enrichment’.

    What changes have happened in France the last 3 years?
    Increases in terrorism and crime, police being overwhelmed by mobs, babyfaced army recruits with assault rifles patrolling populated areas in order to keep people safe, drops in tourism, a significant 20% drop in GDP per capita, and a rise in far-right politics.

    We’ve already seen a drop in GDP per capita and increase in terrorism in recent years under EU leadership, but since Brexit we may well end up on a different course than countries like France. Let’s hope so.

    #1498477
    Stuilse
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    Blogs…I posted something similar a while back about the Muslim culture of inbreeding and the genetic imbalances that are carried forward. This stuffs been going on for centuries. I found the info in the must unlikely of places…a Joe Rogan podcast. That bloke is fascinating…has some seriously cool guests and topics of discussion.

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    MacGuffin
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    I’m not sure how much truth there is to the inbreeding claim, but no matter, it’s merely one facet of the root problem …. the culture clash between Islam and modern western society.

    The only hope is that (1) young muslims become anglicised adopting western culture and values (2) muslim extremists are prevented from radicalising moderate muslims and converting non-muslims. Time would then see them become small in numbers and support to become no more than a fringe wacko cult.

    For this to happen moderate muslims must be onboard. And that’s the problem. The political reality is parties and MPs need muslim votes and will do nothing to upset mainstream muslims. The muslim community does not share the concern. It does nothing to prevent or fight against radicalisation. Then when the inevitable and forseeable atrocities happen, it just comes out with the “nothing to do with us” line.

    The fight against extremism must begin with a fight against the mainstream muslims to gain their active (not tacit) support and to remove the feeding grounds where muslim extremists recruit and replenish their numbers. This means Islam must reform. It must accept that some Islamic teachings and concepts have no place in western society. It must in effect denounce extremists as heretics and “excommunicate” them. It must teach muslims that becoming a muslim fundamentalist is not cool, it doesn’t bring you closer to Allah. It doesn’t get you 77 virgins in paradise, it brings damnation in hell.

    And if moderate muslims won’t play ball then they should be grouped with the extremists. Its simple. Either you are with us or against us.

    #1499151

    gingerlfc
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    Fucking Muslims.
    Who do they think they are?!
    Genetically inferior to us too.

    #1499185
    Dandy
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    If you have something to say ginger have the balls to address the person and comment you disagree with instead of hiding behind snivelling and snidy sarcasm.

    #1499186

    mufc
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    MacGuffin-What extreme Muslims do is against Islam, they will use Syria, Iraq, Palesteine etc as reasons. To resolve this will be a huge job, it will require a global effort and solution.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    We clearly have a few proud Muslims on the page (I am guessing you are one yourself Ginger?) and there has been plenty said form many sides/angles, what surprises me given the level of input we have had over many threads is that not one has offered a solution to modern (Islamic) terrorism from their perspective.

    Do any of you that post on TT have any useful ideas?

    #1499201

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    Dandy I think you and others have already got it all covered.

    What should we do to these genetically inferior Muslims then?

    I remember similar language being used in the past against various groups, that they were genetically inferior in some way.

    Must look up how they in the past dealt with it. Perhaps we should go down that route eh?

    #1499221
    steveosnakeeye
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    so…no then

    #1499224

    mufc
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    Creator of Paddington Bear has died.

    R.I.P

    #1499234

    bloggy
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    Ginger;

    Nearly ten years ago the then Minister for the Environment, Labours Phil Woolas, sounded the alarm about this “very sensitive” issue that is “rarely debated.” Referring to the culture of arranged marriages between cousins in the Muslim immigrant community, Woolas said “If you have a child with your cousin, the liklihood is there’ll be a genetic problem”

    Woolas, who’s views are supported by medical experts, said most cases occur in immigrant families from rural Pakistan, where up to half of all marriages involve first cousins. Woolas said “If you talk to any primary care worker they will tell you that the levels of disability among the Pakistani population are higher than the general population. And everyone knows it’s caused by first cousin marriage.”

    The problem is made worse by “generational inbreeding” As Woolas put it “Many of the parents themselves and many of the public spokespersons are themselves products of first cousin marriages.” That would explain why research for BBC2’s Newsnight in November 2005 showed that British Pakistanis accounted for 3.4% of all births but for 30% of all British children born with recessive genetic disorders.

    Now you may not like the idea of Muslims being described as gentically inferior old chap, but that doesn’t prevent it from being true.

    #1499244
    Stuilse
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    Sarcastic bugger aren’t you Ginger!! It’s a medical fact that continous inbreeding leads to far higher cases of genetically inferior babies. Lower IQ, more behavioural disorders, lower mental capacity, lower emotional capabilities etc. It’s also a fact that Muslims are the largest group of people that practise this and have been practising it for centuries. If White Caucasians were the dominant group practising this…the results and arguments would be the same. Stop looking for racist angles with every view or post that differ to your own.

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