Klopp's bus

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    Alfie07
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    The funny thing is that we only get labelled long ball when Fellaini plays and he only played for, what, 15 mins. And in that short time we stilled tried to attack using the wings.

    People get upset when you cross the ball in these days. All because Klopp tried to deflect attention away from his own tactics.

    #1418547

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    If Jose deployed the same tactics that Klopp did during the 2nd half in order to protect a lead, we will be hearing a lot more about it.

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    Alfie07
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    Yes, agree entirely.

    It’s ironic that Jose played that way for years at Chelsea and got slaughtered for it, Klopp is heralded as some genius but reverts to Jose chelsea tactics and is still heralded a genius and has the Liverpool fans defending him.

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    hatters
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    Fellas you should never listen to apologist complainers like kickass23. Fact is football is played over 90 mins with 11 men on grass, the team that scores more wins – end of

    I have never used style of play as a stick to beat any other team with and never will. Liverpool fans have been starved of trophies for so long that they have begun to sound like Arsenal fans, complaining about perfectly legitimate tactical changes the opposition does instead of looking at how they failed. The 27 year title drought has well and truly transformed them from a superclub of winners to the whining losers they are today.

    You never see Manchester United fans complaining about opposition tactics, decisions of officials or any of that crap because it’s all deflection tactics – excuses made by losers. Manchester United fans call it like it is – if we lost it’s because we were rubbish, if we drew it’s because we are not good enough. If we won then great but how do we get better? How do we reach the level of Real Madrid again? F**k what the opposition did, our job is to beat them, end of.

    The Liverpool fans who have been spamming our page trying to win bragging rights over a draw with us should look deeply at themselves and try remember what a title winning club acts like (if they are old enough).

    It was a draw. It doesn’t help Liverpool win the trophy and it doesn’t do us any favours either. What’s the point in telling us our (effective) change in tactics was “ugly”. Trot on back to your page and have a look in the mirror YSB.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    “You never see Manchester United fans complaining about opposition tactics, decisions of officials or any of that crap.”

    What?

    This thread itself is about opposition tactics!

    Yikes!

    #1418638

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    In general this was about if Klopp would get the Jose treatment in regards to his tactics during the 2nd half on Sunday. I guess 2 days on, we have our answer.

    Before Sunday, I never have once complained about the way opposition teams set etc.

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    That’s what liverpool fans do though cm…they moan, they blame others, they see injustice at every turn, they act like victims, they create hysteria. They’ve been doing it for decades Boris was almost right when he called Liverpool a self pity city. It is actually Liverpool FC who are a self pity football club.

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    No intent by LFC in the second half to play football. Clearly 11 men behind the ball. He has the gut to say in Post match conference that LFC were the better team.
    If his team was really the better team, they would have attacked us to score a second goal.
    They gifted us the ball each time they took back possession. Lol.
    Come on. LFC is not worthy of Top 4.
    Klopp is over estimating the capabilities of his team.
    That kid Coutinho is worshiped like Messi by LFC fans. Pathetic.

    #1418696

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    To be fair ts7, not all Liverpool fans are like that on here. You have decent Liverpool fans on here like Rob, taxidriverlfc, Sean and many more. We all can be fickle when it comes to your clubs.

    #1418798

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    Contradict among yourself. You guys just dont understand the question. Yawn…Agree with you CM not all MU fans like you bunch. A few of you here like a women brain, like to dig the old story to support the new one. Enough said…Ciao!!

    #1418812

    Hegdahl
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    Manchester United under Fergie was great to watch. Now you got a manager that plays in a different way and style. Accept that. Not many team parks a buss that way Jose does. And also, the long balls to Zlatan from the 56. Minute is not nice to watch – and its not the United way. Trying to drag Liverpool and Klopp to this style is impossible. To protect a lead and go on a counter is is not parking a bus. Liverpool tried as always to play football, not like Herrera or all the long balls. LFC also had chances with Origi and Firmino before Gini W. At the end. United should still get a new manager that plays the United way. LvG didnt and Jose is not even close. Biggest club in the world spends 150m lately should not be a long ball team. End of story.

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    hatters
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    @hegdahl. First of all, playing long balls is not a crime. It is a variation of playing football – usually most effective against teams that have packed their box with defenders. Second of all, I couldn’t give a toss how any other team plays football but you seem concerned about us so I will entertain you:

    Show me where the “long balls” are here. You talk as if it is our primary strategy when in actual fact, we only employ it in the last 10-15 mins of games when teams have packed their box and we are chasing a goal (Liverpool at Old Trafford).

    I googled “manchester united style under mourinho” and these are the first 3 links:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/05/man-utd-hierarchy-encouraged-teams-improving-style-play-jose/

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10605234/how-jose-mourinho-has-changed-manchester-united-less-passing-less-running-more-shooting

    http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-united/story/3012777/manchester-united-chiefs-pleased-with-the-football-under-mourinho-source

    This season only Tottenham and Liverpool have had more shots on goal than Manchester United. The fans are generally much happier with our football – evidenced on this forum, across the internet, and when you speak to our fans as well; the board certainly thinks so as well (evidenced above).

    Something tells me you won’t read any of the articles I have posted nor will you watch the video of the brisk passing and movement that precedes the vast majority of our goals. Your post is so steeped in fallacy that it might just be a wind-up and you aren’t actually interested in facts.

    Either way, your post is full of bullshit. End of.

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    Alfie07
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    Hatters – I couldn’t have said it better mate!

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    Are the myth making hypocrites still going on about long balls?

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    MMI
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    100 percent for effort hatters. That still won’t shut them up though, as you well know. Thumbs up mate.

    #1418858

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    Kickass-

    You falsely claim United play long ball and should not do because the amount of money that was spent.

    I then asked were you happy with Liverpool winning the CL and FA under Benitez with the style of play that was a lot more defensive than ours and that is after spending more money than United at the time.

    The person who is contradicting here is you or shall I say ignoring. You evidently came here to troll and have failed miserably.

    #1418861

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    Well said Hatters.

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    Kickass23
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    The problem is not the long ball that MU played. The problem a bunch of moron here dont admit that you’re playing long ball. You get my question? What make you think I’m trolling you’ll? You guys just feeling insecure when someone just said that LFC cant cope the MU long ball. The question is so simple and yet a few of you make a big hoohah…bring out the stats and digging the old story to supports yours. When some of you said LFC played defensively during Rafa reign I straight away admit it….I didn’t try to go find some stats to show you’ll that LFC not played defensively.Because it is what it is….A bunch of kids try to cover up or i should said LIE TO YOURSELF. If all this make you feel good than let be it.
    Plymouth Boss just making a joke that he going to sign Felainin and deploy the same tactics.Why dont you guys email him and show him the stats and tell him LFC play more long ball than MU and ask him to Shut the F up.

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    Kickass-

    A fair few have said that United do deploy it, it is a variation of different style of play United put out. Like Hatters said earlier, you keep harping on about it like it is our primary strategy, when it is far from it, it is United’s Plan B or C. Something that appears when we need a goal within the last 10-15 minutes i.e. Fellaini against your lot when you was camping in your own half for every minute of the 2nd half.

    It is hilarious how you link United’s spending to their style of play(even though you are wrong about the overall style of play) and I relate(if you can even relate) it to Liverpool’s under Benitez and the trophies you won, along with the money you spent in comparison, you get all defensive and start talking about sofa’s and chairs, when proven wrong about that, you resort back to long balls and say what Benitez did, what he won, the style of play and the money spent is irrelevant. A bit hypocritical some would say.

    Here are Uniteds goals this season, how many have been from long balls? I would say you’re deluded pal.

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