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    Wise-fan
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    People need to lay off Moyes. the fact that he has done a good job at Everton under a very tight budget suggests that he was a very good manager when he joined United. and as we all know when a manager joins a club they should shape the squad in to their liking. did United allow Moyes to have his preferred players? i don’t think so. he Wanted Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona, United refused to meet Barcelona’s asking price. he also wanted Thiago and nearly brought, again United refused to back him. Tony Kroos from Bayern was in his radar. yet again United didn’t back him. if he has got two of those players, i think things would have been different. my belief is that United let him down. that Squad never deserved to compete in the top four let alone win the league. and to make things worse his rivals were strengthening at the time.

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    Gibbo
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    Wise-fan, he is brutal. The players u mention there were never completely on-board with working for him. Jose came in and got all the players he wanted, he didnt mess around with the board and he didnt mess around with getting the players in. If Moyes wasnt backed then he should have walked from the job but he didnt.

    He has had a couple of jobs since Utd and they were rubbish aswell. He got Everton to where they needed to be but times have changed and more money is available now, the big time players wont move to West Ham with him there.

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    Wise-fan
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    Mourinho himself was claiming that in his last season at Chelsea he wasn’t backed as he would have liked. but still did he walk out? only a handful of manager will consider the idea of walking out such a lucrative job for me. but United was entering an un-chattered waters for the first time. because they were going to a season without Alex Ferguson in charge. they have given Moyes 6 year contract. but again didn’t back him in the transfer market. Mourinho got the players he wanted last season and ended up finishing 6th in the league. only God knows the fan unrest that we would have witnessed had that been Moyes.

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    I don’t think the size of the task of taking over from SAF can be minimised unfortunately SAF tried to replicate himself in the role and pushed the Board in the direction of Moye’s the boots were too big for him and since then Moyes has taken some bad career decisions.

    If Moyes keeps West Ham up and he stays on and gets the Hammers up the PL table he will begin to mend his reputation but it won’t be easy.

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    NOLU
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    It takes a desperate man to want to work for the dildo brothers and their lacky Bradey.

    He must clearly want this.

    #1563106

    Devon Hammer
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    Jealousy will get you nowhere nolu. 🙂

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    NOLU
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    Ha ha – I always thought WH were a great club, but since the Daves took over one thing I am not is Jealous. They have destroyed a once proud club and I have nothing but regret for you.

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    Devon Hammer
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    I admit some of the decisions they have made have not been good, but we were in such dire straits when they took over from the Icelandic bankers, we could easily have gone bust.

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    hatters
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    4-0 vs a struggling Everton side, albeit because of an inspired Wayne Rooney performance. Nice one Moyesey.

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    Gibbo
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    Yep Moyes still has that magic. West Ham are going doing down and Moyes will be blaming the players in press conferences for a few months because his skills are lacking but he needs to cover that up.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    This is another reason why young English managers don’t get a chance, he fit at Everton with their resource and expectations and time. You step up to s big club or take over a struggling club you don’t have any of that. Could it be the same for Howe and the like? Who knows but hell of a risk for a club.

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    mufc
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    The David Moyes revolution has started.

    #1569057

    NOLU
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    Even a Roy Hodgson team has beaten Chelsea this season – I wouldnt get too excited over Moyes yet

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    mufc
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    He has done well, not much time with the team. Also a tough run of fixtures at the start of his West Ham campaign.

    #1569102

    Devon Hammer
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    Nolu, trust me, no West Ham fan is getting carried away after the win on Saturday. But credit where credits due pal it’s a helluva start. We know we still have a long way to go but the signs are there that things are improving.

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    @devon-hammer You played well and deserved the 3 points, no denying that mate.

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    hatters
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    I must put my hands up and say West Ham have performed very well in their last two games against Manchester City and Chelsea.

    Again though, Moyes always comes unstuck when he has to take the game to the opposition and West Ham’s performances against their immediate rivals will be more indicative of whether or not Moyes is fit for purpose. If I am proved wrong I will admit it but at this point I doubt I will have to.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    i think he will do enough to keep them up and then maybe just maybe with a decent summer he will fall in to an “Everton” pattern and do well, bad summer though which is likely with the board and his and the clubs “pulling power” and he will likely watse a load of dosh and be sacker early next season for it to all be repeated again.

    you have to feel sorry for the hammmers fans, they made great strides, wanted to do the right things with a new stadium and increased capacity but its all very…West Hamish…personally id like to see the club turned around and more stable i enjoy them in the PL…unless they beat us tonight in which case i may change my view 😉

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    killyboye
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    I think if he can turn WHU around he’ll be viewed in a much more favourable light around Europe. People are talking about big players, big players want to go Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, PSG, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Inter, Milan, Atletico and maybe one or two others. All the other clubs in Europe feed off the players who want to step up and play on a bigger stage and use that club as a stepping stone, and let’s be realistic here, almost every club is a potential stepping stone to Real or Barcelona, they’re on a different level prestige wise.
    The key to a club like West Ham doing well is good scouting, finding the hidden gems, working on them, selling them for profit. Buying cheap and selling high again. If Moyes and West Ham can get a good scouting network in place then there’s hope.
    As a Man Utd fan I think Moyes is a good manager but shouldn’t have gotten the Man Utd job. When he did get it, he tried to change too much, purely it seems, to try and stamp his authority on the club and the playing staff. He fired almost all SAF’s staff, a staff who had delivered multiple titles and trophies on an ever decreasing budget, staff the players were comfortable with and respected. He rubbed the players up the wrong way by making seemingly silly decision, again to try to stamp his authority on the club, like banning ketchup from the canteen. He took on a job that was too big for him, especially given who he took over from and failed.
    I’m not sure about his time at Sociedad but Sunderland was a hiding to nothing, there’s been some sort of rot endemic at that club for a number of years and their relegation was only a matter of time, if Moyes had kept them up last season they’d probably be on their down this season and he’d probably have resigned because the players are lazy, the board are not backing the managers with the funds required to completely rebuild the squad as they need to because the current squad is appalling. Grayson found life very tough there and Coleman will too.
    I think he can do well for West Ham but it will be tough, if he can turn their fortunes around, then he will have gone a long way to rebuilding his reputation.

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