Madeleine McCann: Police given more funding for inquiry

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    mufc
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    MacGuffin
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    Haha – Not sure this is the best of topics given the last Madelein topic was deleted by the powers that be.

    The funds given are relatively small. I guess by now its just a couple of detectives working on the case chasing every sighting as a token to enable them to say “its still being investigated”.

    What annoys me is this investigation has been going on since 2011 and due to police policy there will be no report issued until the investigation is closed. The public have no idea what has been done, what lines of investigation followed, what lines (suspects) ruled out. The wiki on the operation is one of the thinnest wiki articles I have ever seen. Why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Grange

    Sadly its highly probable she’s long dead. Had she been abducted her abductors must have realised that her eye defect would always raise suspicions no matter how time aged her.

    Without wishing to rehash the deleted debate, in my view the more police investigate lines of enquiry and come up empty handed, the more likely it is that the answer lies in a line of enquiry they have not spent much time and resources on.

    PS – I visited the Find Madelein site http://findmadeleine.com/home.html

    On the top of every page is a banner asking visitors to “Purchase Our Book”. Elsewhere it states “the full objects of the Fund are:”

    1) To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann etc
    2) To procure that Madeleine’s abduction is thoroughly investigated etc
    3) To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.

    No mention of the fact that much of the fund has been spent on legal fees silencing anybody who suggests anything they don’t like.

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    A little girl has been taken or murdered. It’s been over 10 yard now and I suspect we will never truly know what happened to her but the Police are pursuing probably one last line of enquiry and have been funded to do so.

    For Madeline’s sake and all those who love her I pray that it finally throws something tangible up.

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    Go on Macguffin be a good grass and get this thread closed down.

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    Don’t think MacGuffin will have grassed, the last thread like this, he was very active, and made very good points.

    This case was strange and frustrating, have never really come across a police case where every single lead, resulted in a dead end. They never led to anything.

    Surely there must have been some CCTV within the complex? You expect this within a resort, with a high volume of children, and for general safety. Ok, if not within the complex, was there no CCTV, with 3 miles of where the crime occurred?

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    What the pancake is going on here then, i SAY.

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    MacGuffin
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    @mufc – Awhile back Wonderfuel started a topic on the United pages with a post deemed abusive enough for TT to deleted the topic. Wonderfuel discounts the possibility TT editors may read posts and has convinced himself I “grassed him up”. I’ve told him I didn’t but he’s obsessed about it and snipes aways at me with snide remarks similar to his above post.

    He has the mindset of a deranged hotel room sniper popping away at innocent people for no apparent reason other than madness. His partner Alfie is equally delusional, insisting the topic never existed and I’m making it all up!

    The TT Editors deleted a topic because it was “purely to antagonise others” (me in this case). The shooter then blames his victim for the foiled attack, goes postal and engages in a vendetta against his victim.

    Its like the police taking firm action when a nutter in a hotel room let’s loose a barrage. Then the same nutter changes tactic to become a sniper instead of machine gunner. He fires a single shot, lays low for a few days then pops up to fire off another shot. The police don’t notice the sound of a single shot and he feels free to keep doing it day after day after day.

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    MacGuffin
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    @mufc – Albeit not identical, there are similarities to the death of JonBenét Ramsey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_JonBen%C3%A9t_Ramsey Child reported as missing. Later found murdered in basement of her home.

    – Intruder blamed as perpetrator but no evidence of intrusion.
    – Parents give unconvincing and conflicting statements to the police
    – Parents eager to talk to the public through the media but uncooperative with police.
    – Debates about the merit of police science. Dogs DNA for Madeleine, Ransom Note for JonBenet.
    – Questionable parenting. McCanns leaving child alone, JonBenet in child beauty pageants.
    – Public think parents may be responsible

    I could list many more similarities.

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    So one of your grubby little analogies suggested I rape my wife and now you’re comparing my mindset to a mass murderer. Classy fella you Macguffin, if I was a grass…

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    Simmer down guys, lets call a truce.

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    MacGuffin
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    @Wonderfuel – I wasn’t suggesting you are a mass murderer, I suggested you are prone to “going postal” – a popular term coined after a mass murder went on an inexpicable rampage. You yourself have admitted you stayed away from the forum for a while because of your “aggression” issues.

    The machine gunner v sniper comparison seemed a reasonable analagy given the headline news.

    It’s strange that a man who describes himself as “a bit posh” should describe reporting a post as “grassing”. If you were a TT Editor you’d no doubt rename the sticky topic “Forum Rules & Grassing on Posters” 🙂

    Anyhow, snipe away old chap ….. I’m bulletproof.

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    MacGuffin
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    @mufc – Hahaha….. you re-ignite a topic that was deleted because of ungentlemanly posting (presumably) then call for a truce the moment it seems there may be fireworks.

    Something tells me you are another of these wannabe moderators. You start topics and seek to keep the peace but never offer opinion on the topics you start.

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    MacGuffin – I be honest, after so many pages of the last thread on this subject, 100% when I say this, I honestly stopped reading it, as it became a battle field. I would never want to be a mod mate, anyway my opinions on this subject are like yours.

    My previous comment about CCTV, in this region, especially a holiday resort, 100% there has to be cameras somewhere. No way can a tourist hot spot not have any, even in the location, or venturing out a few miles. I find this very odd indeed, for this reason alone I feel whoever is involved in this, could involve people, or organisations with an aspect of power.

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    I bet they have cameras now …

    Interesting point though. I can understand a resort being not so CCTV obsessed as UK BUT if the resort was rife with burglaries as some suggest it’s strange they did not have CCTV. Unless of course its not so crime ridden as some make out.

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    Macguffin out of interest what has the similarities to another death got to do with anything? Both could be innocent, both could be guilty or a mixture of the two?!

    The fact it didn’t have cctv camera’s is utterly irrelevant, very few places apart from city centre’s/main roads have any CCTV coverage nevermind holiday resorts in Portugal!

    The legal fees and PR fees the mccanns have spent again does not necessarily mean guilt and in fact actually leans more towards innocence. If public opinion/media opinion swings against them then the search for their daughter fades. Spending all this money to keep it in the media and to keep investigations open is a piece of brilliance by criminal mastermind who is trying to get away with murder lol that’s Home Alone level villainy:

    Harry: “I know what we should do. Lets spend as much money as we can to keep the investigation open and put pressure on the government to keep investigating the case”
    Marv: “But won’t that mean we’re more likely to get caught?”
    Harry: “yes but by keeping the investigation open we’ll be in the paper more and you know I love to have my picture took”
    Marv: “but if we just let the investigation fade we’ll never get caught, we can release a book in a few years and make millions. We’d be on easy street.”
    Harry: “Don’t be so stupid Marv, do I have to think of everything?!”

    #1541338

    nine nine nine
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    There’s no benefit in digging over this old ground all over again it was thoroughly debated on the last thread and no conclusions could be drawn no matter where anyone sat on the subject which is not surprising.

    And the thread was presumably closed by the Editor for a reason?

    If the continuing investigation finally throws up some new evidence and or conclusions that would be the time to discuss it again until then it’s pointless.

    Dreadful dreadful anology Mac aimed at WG especially after the tragedy of what recently happened in Vegas and totally unfair on Wonderful imo whatever your differences might be.

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    There was another analogy on a United thread not so long since when he had me down as sexually abusing my wife. And he wonders why I get riled and think he’s a low life?

    Anyway, a debate about that poor girl Maddie is no place for this sort of talk. Good point about the CCTV, astonished there was none. And I think while there’s leads to be followed then funds should be allocated to looking in to them. I have a suspicion that some coppers know a good ticket when they see one and are not being entirely honourable.

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    @jay Belfast – Something tells me you haven’t read the posts. mufc said …………..

    This case was strange and frustrating, have never really come across a police case where every single lead, resulted in a dead end. They never led to anything.

    The JonBenet case is a case “where every single lead, resulted in a dead end.” AND there were other similarities, as I indicated. My post was a response to his post. That I directed the post to him should have been a clue to scroll back.

    As for CCTV, again I was responding to mufc post. It is not relevant to the murder case other than raising questions for those of us who do not have access to crime statistics about the reliability of claims there were a lot of burglaries. It also raises off-topic questions about how good the resort owners are in terms of caring for customer safety.

    How donations are spent may not directly indicate guilt (or innocence) but it is an indication of character and character of people involved is always an important consideration in any investigation. (Need I explain this). AND it is relevant to the donors and the public trust.

    Marv: “But won’t that mean we’re more likely to get caught?”
    Harry: “Don’t worry about that, our pal Murdoch has persuaded the PM to persuade the police not to follow that line of enquiry.”

    Marv: “but if we just let the investigation fade we’ll never get caught, we can release a book in a few years and make millions. We’d be on easy street.”
    Harry: “Don’t be so stupid Marv, the book will not sell if we let the public forget about it. And besides, don’t you like jetsetting around the world, the fancy hotels and restaurants, meeting famous people and living the life of a celebrity?”
    Marv: “Never thought of that, better we get our pals to extend the funding for the investigation as long as we can.”

    #1541368
    MacGuffin
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    @nine nine nine – You said almost the same in the last thread ie no point discussing this. May I suggest those who share your view simply ignore the topic and those who are happy to talk about it continue to do so. Isn’t that how forums work?

    The discussion could be about something NOT discussed in the last thread. Government decision to spend more taxpayer money on an investigation unlikely to ever produce results !!!

    PS – And WG not expressing opinion on the topic subject, merely using it as vantage point from where to snipe at me is fair?

    Perhaps you are the type of policeman who thinks if a shooter fires at somebody you don’t like, that’s fine. But if the target fires back with a RPG then it’s not. Policemen like that have been in the news recently but I’ll spare you the analagy.

    #1541369
    Wonderfuel Gas
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    You must have missed this paragraph.

    “Good point about the CCTV, astonished there was none. And I think while there’s leads to be followed then funds should be allocated to looking in to them. I have a suspicion that some coppers know a good ticket when they see one and are not being entirely honourable. “

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