Michael Oliver
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March 14, 2017 at 8:45 am #1450067
Tommy,
I am not saying that he is not a bad ref or that he is not a bottler or that he didnt bottle that game, what i am saying is you only created this thread and gave the examples after a game involving united, one in which your player got sent of (softly yes) but not unfairly, what came after that was unfair as i have said.
your correct though my reaction to a non united fan creating this thread would have been different as it wouldnt involve united fans moaning because they now have to put up with what the rest of us have for over 20 years, welcome to the club!
i am also not disagreeing with much of what you say as i have previously agreed it could have been 7 against 7 but it was what it was, your club and players need to take some responisiblity the ref was bad but some of the players fouls or dives (both team) where bad….
i hear plenty of Chelsea fans saying there players dived and dont like it etc
March 14, 2017 at 8:45 am #1450068CM,Cahill fell over and was just trying to hold on to Rashford to try and retain his balance. 🙂
March 14, 2017 at 8:54 am #1450081Steve-
Deary me Steve, I thought better of you than bring up nonsense about United benefiting from decisions within the last 20 years. I am not saying that is not the case, but we all know that when United get a decision, it has always been widely scrutinised and talked about. The same would have happened if Arsenal were just as successful within the last 20 years. People still bring up Pires dive against Pompey during your invincible season, United get it 10 times worse because United were the team to beat the last 20 years. So any decisions that benefited them would have been talked about continuously, but if the same decision happened against a team that did not play United, it would have been swept under the carpet.
March 14, 2017 at 9:13 am #1450098lol Tommy its not rocket science mate,
firstly as i have stated many times i am an unadulterated ABU
secondly i am because of your success over that period, the way you played, the teams you built the consistency and all those lovely shiny trophies. yes if Arsenal had had that then i would be getting the same and id love it as it would mean success! im just making the point that for the first time 9starting post Fergie, United have started to be treated like any other club and its long over sue and now we hear so much moaning when before all was right with the world.and for the record to all united fans i dont want anyone to stop posting or even moaning its your right and its my right to respond as i see fit all be it based on decades of jealousy!
March 14, 2017 at 9:14 am #1450099its the price of success im afraid mate, and ifi ever moan about divers (as some of my fellow fans have) feel free to bring me to task as you have them and mention all our divers over the years as would be right, and i would love as it means your talking about us when we where actually successful! 😉
March 14, 2017 at 9:22 am #1450113Steveo-
You and Oliver go hand in hand, you’re both biased and your views/decisions are blinkered depending on the occasion. No wonder you’re the defending the man. 🙂
March 14, 2017 at 9:22 am #1450114BTW, who is Tommy?
March 14, 2017 at 9:23 am #1450116Never mind, I get you now.
March 14, 2017 at 9:27 am #1450122sorry mate got you mixed up with wonderfuel (Tommy) as you can see ive been busy at work today 😉
im not defending him, i agree he had a shocker just for different reasons than you lads do! but yes as explained im very biased against united and thats due to all you have acheived and how but im comfortable with that, if you have another 5-10 years like the post fergie years so far it will stop as you fade from my consciousness unfortunaelty cant see that happening and its just a matter of time for you lot unlike us…
March 14, 2017 at 9:27 am #1450124I have no problems with referees making mistakes, but they have to be both ways. You can’t just make bad calls on one side and not the other. Neither fouls Herrera was booked for were yellow cards, the first one wasn’t even a foul. If those are bookable offenses, teams would finish most matches with 5 or 6 players on the pitch.
I agree that Valencia was lucky to stay on, but so was Cahill.
I think referees should also start all Chelsea matches by booking Diego Costa before the kick-off. The man is a disgrace. Last night he didn’t even bother to play football. His only agenda was trying to get Rojo sent off. But what about that Kanté? What a player.March 14, 2017 at 9:28 am #1450125ha ha just seen your Tommy def….lets go with that instead tommy!
March 14, 2017 at 9:46 am #1450147Stop complaining about Michael Oliver, he has done his job and there is no case here. its no secret that United game plan was injure our best players. they targeted Hazard and were trying to send him to the treatment room. disgusting you should be ashamed with your tactics. on the other hand our defenders never targeted to injure United’s best players. that is the class between the two managers. because Mourinho can’t play a fair football. the Ref’s hand was forced. it was almost impossible to play a good game of football considering the tactics United deployed to injure our best players.
March 14, 2017 at 9:53 am #1450159I wouldn’t say Utd set out to kick Hazard off the pitch. It was probably more like close him down quickly and don’t let him turn. We closed down very well in the first half and didn’t give Chelsea any time on the ball. Hazard was the only one who fell to the floor every time though with the slightest of touches.
Valencia was lucky with his challenge but I think a yellow was fair. Rojo though will get a retrospective ban though for his stamp on Hazard late on. Nowhere near as bad as Mings though so just the standard 3 matches for me.
March 14, 2017 at 9:56 am #1450166I wonder if he have thrown himself to the Rojo foot so that he can be stamped like Mings has jumped in to Zlatan’s elbow last Saturday? don’t try to hide pressing. stamping and kicking are not part of pressing game. everyone agreed that you wanted to injure Hazard. how many of your players tried to injure him? the guy that was sent off, Valencia, Jones, Roho. the videos are there to be watched.
March 14, 2017 at 10:00 am #1450171Wise-fan-
What is your opinion on Costa play acting in order to get United reduced to 9 men because he could not get the better of Rojo?
March 14, 2017 at 10:04 am #1450172Manthistle, what would you expect a player from United to do if the opposition was kicking his feet at every opportunity? A bit of theatrics to get the cards rolling would be in order from my perspective.
March 14, 2017 at 10:04 am #1450173Wise-fan – I wonder if he have thrown himself to the Rojo foot so that he can be stamped like Mings has jumped in to Zlatan’s elbow last Saturday?
You’re going to have to translate that into English I’m afraid.don’t try to hide pressing. stamping and kicking are not part of pressing game.
There was one stamp and Rojo will deservedly be banned as a result. I don’t think there was a lot of kicking going on to be fair. Just one big pansy with the no.10 on his back.everyone agreed that you wanted to injure Hazard
Who is everyone?March 14, 2017 at 10:05 am #1450174A thread should of been created for Ander Hererra, not Michael Oliver. It was his stupidity which led to the red card. He is a little cretin and a very average footballer.
March 14, 2017 at 10:08 am #1450177Ok pardon me ! if i got my English wrong. i’m not English or from an English speaking country. i tried at my best to communicate my point to the best of my English. and if that is not enough, i can only say sorry since i’m not a native English.
March 14, 2017 at 10:09 am #1450178NotoriousBingo – Hazard seems to pick and choose when he wants to go down. Sometimes he rides the challenge and other he falls over. If you give him time and space he turns you and is gone (a la smalling in the first half which resulted in a chance for Hazard). You have to be on him straight away. He’s a clever player. He knows how to make the most of a foul.
Ronaldo was the same for us. I never complained at the treatment Ronaldo got though…
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