Ref Review: The incorrect decisions from week 26

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  • #865422
    Mark Holmes
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    Arsenal, Leicester City and Manchester City all suffered from major incorrect decisions on Sunday, according to our Ref Review panel.

    [See the full post at: Ref Review: The incorrect decisions from week 26]

    #865431

    CM
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    We are top of the league. Brilliant news!

    #865443
    Mark Holmes
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    This is where you’re supposed to accuse us of hating Man Utd…

    #865452

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    Not sure what is worse, spending a lot of money and struggling or being top of the decision for/against league and struggling.

    #865464
    D1rtyH4rry
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    Saying Vardy was within his rights to engineer contact is beyond brain dead, and one of the reasons refs have such a hard time these days. Not winning the ball only matters if you play the player, monreal didn’t and vardy went into him. Obstruction at worst, never a penalty.

    #865473
    Mark Holmes
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    I don’t like that myself, DirtyHarry, and used to write about it regularly, but you can’t deny it’s the way the game is nowadays. If a defender goes for the ball and doesn’t win it, the attacker takes the chance to go over the leg and the ref points to the spot.

    #865500
    D1rtyH4rry
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    I know that’s what happens, doesn’t make it right though, it’s the same as simulation IMO.

    #865506
    Mark Holmes
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    I agree with you, but this feature isn’t us giving our opinions, it’s us judging whether refs have made the right decisions based on the current interpretation of the rules.

    #865521
    TipTapGoal
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    How you can say the vardy penalty was correct is beyond me.

    He stuck his left leg into monreal to manufacture a tangle of legs, hardly the actions of a player trying to get around his opponent.

    Why did vardy lead with his left leg? it was unnatural to do that, he did it because it was the only way to make contact with monreal

    This is the worst kind of cheating, manufacturing the contact to make it look like monreal mistimed his tackle.

    Much in the same way you can’t kick a ball at a players hand to win a penalty, this is the equivalent action of a player trying to con the ref.

    Vardy brought himself down, not only by falling to the floor but in my estimation of him as an honest player and the fact he’s won 6 pens alone this season should tell you all you need to know.

    Who cares anyway, the way we won it in injury time is more of a psychological blow to them then had we won it 1-0 in the 70th minute.

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    nocturnal_red
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    “I agree with you, but this feature isn’t us giving our opinions, it’s us judging whether refs have made the right decisions based on the current interpretation of the rules.”

    This was undoubtedly the toughest call of the weekend to make, with Simpson shown two yellow cards in quick succession for fouls which Claudio Ranieri described as “normal”. All agreed the Leicester defender was silly to pull back Olivier Giroud having been booked minutes earlier, but consensus was also that there’d have been no complaints had Simpson escaped a yellow card for either of the fouls. In a high-tempo match of 19 fouls, a three-to-two majority ruled Atkinson acted too hastily in sending off a player guilty of only three infringements in tota

    the two statements are contradictory Mark? if the 1s statement is true then Simpson deserved the red no? so it wasn’t an incorrect decision was it? the panel just doesn’t like the decision

    #865536
    Mark Holmes
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    How is it contradictory? We thought it was a penalty according to the current rules, but we didn’t think the two fouls were worthy of two bookings. I fail to see how two separate incidents are linked.

    #865539
    nocturnal_red
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    it’s linked because the panel’s decision making is inconsistent, in both decisions the ref was within his rights to make the decision he did but you deem one incorrect and the other correct?

    #865545
    nocturnal_red
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    so it’s not your interpretation of the rules but it’s your opinion/feeling of what the referee should’ve done

    #865551
    Mark Holmes
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    The ref is within his rights to make every decision. Some we’ll agree with and others we won’t, but it doesn’t make us inconsistent. It wouldn’t make for a very good feature if we backed the ref on every call.

    I can only speak for myself, but I agreed with the penalty call because they are given all the time. I didn’t agree with the red card because you see fouls like that all the time not punished by a yellow card.

    #865560
    nocturnal_red
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    I am not saying anyone’s biased btw, it’s just that the inconsistencies annoy me… don’t know if you remember but there was a double booking against Coutinho that this panel agree with but it was even softer than Simpson’s bookings

    #865572
    Mark Holmes
    Mark Holmes
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    I don’t remember it so can’t comment, but I completely disagree with your point that our judgements on the penalty and Simpson calls show inconsistency.

    #865581
    TipTapGoal
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    Pulling someones shirt back is a bookable offence. Its cynical in nature and isn’t part of the game in the same way as a mistimed tackle.

    Also you can get booked for multiple fouls. They can even be on the minor scale, but together they can add up to more. Simpson had accumulated numerous fouls in the game so his first yellow was a result of everything put together.

    Of course when you look at the two yellows in isolation it looks soft – but thats only because you haven’t added the context so the points you raise thereafter are very misleading.

    #865587
    Mark Holmes
    Mark Holmes
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    TTG, I keep hearing this, but Simpson had only been penalised for one foul prior to his first booking. So it’d be very difficult to argue it was for an accumulation of fouls.

    #865602
    nocturnal_red
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    Mark I am just saying this panel deeming a decision correct or incorrect is based on the panel’s opinion and not on the current interpretation of rules like you claimed

    #865614
    Mark Holmes
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    It’s our opinion based on how the rules are interpreted! Like I say, I wouldn’t give a penalty for incidents like Sunday’s if I set the rules, but I don’t so make a judgement based on how I believe the rules are interpreted.

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