Ref Review: The incorrect decisions from week 29
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Our panel debate Christian Benteke’s highly-controversial penalty, while reds for Everton, Arsenal and Southampton also come under review.
[See the full post at: Ref Review: The incorrect decisions from week 29]
this is ridiculous, I remember Mark staunchly defending the decision regarding Vardy ‘winning’ a penalty against Arsenal stating that even though it was a soft penalty that the decision was correct as per rules and Vardy was within his rights to go down…why doesn’t the same apply to Benteke’s pen?
Because Benteke did dive 😉
Why is the Dier second yellow being spoken about and not the Bellerin one? Agree Dier probably should have gone, but then so should have Bellerin….
Nocturnal, maybe because Leicester are fighting for the title mate. Maybe then it’s OK. Otherwise,it’s clearly wrong
Nocturnal_red – 100% agree, I posted at the time of the Vardy pen that they were justifying it rather than saying if it was right or wrong – pundits need to stand up and say its not right that players go down “under contact” or are “entitled to go down”, we need to change the perception and get football back to being seen as a contact sport!
Smell that? Its the stink of hypocrasy again from this farse of a panel. I challenge any one of you to sprint across your car park full throttle and then let someone clip your foot. See if you fall over. Delaney clearly made contact. And when sprinting that is certainly enough to bring someone down. Benteke didnt roll around. No tumbles. No big theatrics. He simply fell because he was tripped. End of story. Correct decision 100%. I could list counltess penalties which this “panel” has deemed worthy of a penalty when the contact is minimal. You also use the story that the ref admitted it was a mistake to try and justify your stupidity. But the only person who has claimed the ref admitted it was a mistake is Delaney himself. The player that openly lied when he said he 100% made no contact with Benteke. Replays have shown this is a lie. I dont know why this panel bothers any more. They dont have a non biased or legitimate view on things. They just make up the rules when they feel like it.
Liv_1986 I’m actually applauding your post. Fantastic. Well said
sorry Liverpool_1986 : Benteke wasn’t “clipped” – had his foot been hit with enough force to go behind his other leg as he was taking a stride then it would have been a foul as he would have been impeded and you can then use your sprinting argument (which I’m pretty sure was made up by Gareth Bale) – in this case his nearside foot had “contact” made on it by Delaney, on its way UP not down and so there is no bio-mechanical reason for him to fall. Believe me, I had training with my american football team the morning of this game, and if I fell over under that level of contact I would be seeking a doctor to correct a inner ear balance problem!
Before anybody gets too harsh with the panel Dermot Gallagher reviewed the incident on SSN’s today and came to the conclusion that it wasn’t a penalty.
The general consensus across both threads is Liverpool fans think its a penalty albeit a soft one and all other fans think its a dive and not a penalty…
mcfc psychology – it sure is mcfc psychology… look at the picture provided. Both legs are in the air and standing leg (the leg to which all the weight will be applied) is impeded from making a firm grounding. The momentum of the player will force the entire weight forward reducing the balance to zero as. Should be a no brainer even for City fans
I really laugh at this panel as they only highlight the “game changing decisions” they don’t look at the whole referee performance as a whole… i will continue to say this but the smaller clubs may not get the so called big decisions however they get their fair share of lee way…. players who play for the big clubs will on average be allowed 4-5 fouls before they are booked for accumulation…. the smaller clubs can get away with up to 10 on average in which they even have 2 or 3 challenges within the accumulation worthy of a booking. anyway i digress – with the betake penalty i am 100% certain that if it was outside the box the referee would award a free kick and no one would be the wiser… for me the referee bottled the decision and went to his assistant referee to have the penalty awarded – in fact he can overrule the assistant referees decision but he did not which says to me he had no bottle… i don’t care if contact is minimal. contact was made through a result of a slide tackle with no attempt or chance in playing the ball in which it constitutes a foul there is nothing in the rule that states how hard the contact should be – it clearly states contact. Replays show that contact was made therefore the decision is correct…. end of discussion … it’s like this BS regarding the last man on a goal scoring opportunity, the rule clearly explains that if the player is denied a clear goal scoring opportunity then the player is to be sent off… it does not say if the player is the last man and fouls an opponent that it constitutes a red… Pundits are ex player and not Ex referees and to be quite honest have no clue about the Laws of the game, logic should depict that their opinions should carry no substance but unfortunately it does.
Unsurprisingly all Liverpool fans on here are 100% certain it was a penalty and most neutrals/opposing fans are leaning more towards Benteke having gone down too easily.
Personally, if this was my team (Spurs) I’d probably see it as a clear penalty too, much the way Liverpool fans are doing. And for those commenting it was a dive I suspect if it were your team you would also consider it a penalty.
Conversely, I suspect that if this was Wayne Rooney going over at Anfield then the same Liverpool fans would be screaming “Diver!” and worse…
If you clip a player inside the box and he goes down its a penalty. This five man panel is a joke, they have so often contradicted themselves.
According to them a elbow in the face is a yellow and not a yellow, if you bring someone down in the penalty box it can be a penalty or not a penalty. This reeks of bias…
Liverpuddle: this is a still image, if you watch the video again, you will see that the foot with which contact is made is off the ground on an upwards stride – the ONLY way that this timing of impact could cause you to fall is if the force is enough to send your left foot across your right leg, causing you to trip.
If contact occured as the left foot was on the downwards stride and resulted in misplacement of the foot as it came to land, then you would have cause to justify it as sufficient contact to result in impediment but its simple biomechanics that this level of displacement to Benteke’s left foot on an upwards stride, should not have caused him to fall to the ground.
How many times have you walked in a queue of people, or walked upstairs at a busy train station and had the person behind you clip your heel as your lift your foot from the ground – do you fall over?
This isn’t anti-Liverpool, as I feel that its a contradiction for this panel to say that Benteke isn’t a penalty, but Vardy V Arsenal was – I actually think this is an obvious penalty with the way the game is currently referee’d – but that is the real problem, as this is the direction modern football is firmly headed in to, and its only for fans of all clubs and pundits to say : contact doesnt mean foul, whether the player in question is Vardy, Benteke, Bale or Yaya Toure
NorthernBahrain – football is a contact sport, contact does not=foul, impediment does. I can also assure you that had this challenge occured outside of the box, Benteke would have ridden the challenge – a penalty is too tempting a reward for players in modern football, I propose the penalty area be made smaller so that more actual football can be played
Same garbage, different week. There will be a similar incident in the next few weeks involving a different club and they’ll say it’s a penalty. Where in the rules does it stipulate how much contact is required? Is it measured in Newtons or Joules? Do all refs have a masters degree in physics? Utter tripe.
Nine nine nine, Dermot Gallaher is a bellend.
So the panel concluded the Miralles didn’t dive even though there was zero contact yet Benteke did dive even though there was contact. Good logic there panel
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