Rodgers 13-14 squad or Klopp's current squad: Which is better?
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November 8, 2016 at 12:04 pm #1308765
We’re playing similar football to how Rodgers had us playing in ’13-14,and we made great starts with both teams,and obviously it remains to be seen whether we can sustain a title challenge this time,but I’m cautiously optimistic that we can.
Personally,I think we have a much better squad now. Obviously the likes of Suarez and Gerrard have left,but I think we’re much better balanced now as a squad,with a lot of options,which Rodgers didn’t have. On the bench back then,we had the likes of Aspas and Victor Moses,now we have much better options on the bench. Jurgen can rotate his squad,rest players,and it wouldn’t weaken the side. Rodgers didn’t have that luxury.
I think this is the best squad of players we’ve had since Houllier’s treble season. Yes,there could be ‘improvements’ in certain areas (another LB,maybe an out and out DM,another RB to give Clyne competition),but other than that,I’d say we’re in pretty good shape.
Also (just for the debate): If Klopp had been in charge of that side in 13-14,would he have won us the league? How would Rodgers get on with this current squad? Which of Klopp’s signings would be in Rodgers’ first 11?
November 8, 2016 at 12:10 pm #1308783ST, I couldn’t see Klopp playing SAS together as often, even with that deadly chemistry. It would have been Suarez up top alone, and to be fair it would probably have given us a better overall balance in terms of not leaving as many gaps and holes throughout the team.
November 8, 2016 at 12:39 pm #1308831S/T.. I’m not sure it’s a fair comparison to make tbh. Rodgers’ side had better individual players going forward. The presence of Suarez cannot be discounted and he was what made that team special. He brought out the best in the likes of Coutinho, Sterling and Sturridge. When he was taken out of the equation along with injuries to Sturridge, the cracks that had appeared had opened into crevasses. Very much a side dependant on 1 or 2 key players. Right now, Klopp may not have a Suarez but what he has got is a team where players can all operate at the same level and wavelength. Klopp’s side is a unit where there isn’t 1 player who stands out but one where each component makes another better. Not to mention now when we lose a so-called key player, we have adequate options ready to come and do a job which was not a luxury we had under Rodgers, who was too incompetent to work with the so-called deadwood. The main difference is, under Rodgers our key man was Suarez whereas right now the key man is Klopp. For me, that’s not an easy comparison to make.
November 8, 2016 at 12:49 pm #1308849Yeah I agree Mikus. Suarez would have been the lone frontman.
I saw a stat the other day. We have 3 more points now than we did in 13-14 under Rodgers after 11 games,and had scored 21 PL goals by this stage under Brendan. We currently have 30 PL goals. By this stage in 13-14,5 players had scored a league goal. Wijnaldum was the 10th different player to score in the Prem for us so far this season. Fantastic that so many players are making positive contributions,and long may it continue. Even Lucas nearly scored at the weekend!
November 8, 2016 at 12:50 pm #1308855Difference IMO is this side presses the Ball better than BR’s side did,BR’s side was mostly just about attacking and We conceded a lot more than what We will under Klopp.
November 8, 2016 at 2:05 pm #1308999This question in a way is irrelevant at the moment, we should all wait & see how the season pans out, 13/14 we finished second & agree with the sentiment regarding how Suarez did for us that season. We have to wait & see how we finish this season before the answering this question truly, but one thing for sure at the moment IMO we are a better all round team than 13/14.
November 8, 2016 at 3:21 pm #1309200It’s a valid question right now. What is this forum’s obsession with waiting to see how things end before discussing possibilities?
wrap it up until the end of the season. I don’t want to see any match threads until the match is over.
November 8, 2016 at 3:31 pm #1309212I think I will log back on in May when we can actually have a talk on a range of topics
November 8, 2016 at 4:02 pm #1309242I’m waiting till Klopp leaves the club…then, and only then, can we admit that actually he’s not a bad manager!
November 8, 2016 at 4:32 pm #1309287BR is a total blagger in the right place at the right time to get the job and then keeping his nice little scam going thanks to Suarez being here when he arrived as well as Stevie and all his drive,experience and passion. JK achieved far more in 9months by getting us to 2 finals. He has bought better with far less money and has got much more out of all his players,he is the real deal and silverware will follow very soon especially if he is supported by the slippery owners. I prey he is with us as long as Wenger because the guy is pure class and fits perfectly with the club’s European history and tradition.
Rodgers is where he belongs in a league with no serious competition where he can pretend to be the WC manager he can never be. He’s no better than the likes of David Moyes and there are numerous current managers in the EPL who are better than him.
November 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm #1309353ST: I’d have to say the current team based on 1) The squad is way stronger that the one Rodgers had. 2) We have a better defence, both individually and collectively- it’s the best ball playing defence I’ve seen for a long time at Liverpool 3) We have way more options going forward- Rodgers had the 3 S’s and that was it, we have quality attacking players in several positions and on the bench. Rodgers’ team minus Suarez wouldn’t have competed for the league even though they had a great start without him!
Klopp is currently playing in a stronger league than the one we competed in that year. There are better managers in place now than back in 13/14 in my opinion. Conte, Guardiola are now on board and that will make it tougher!
November 8, 2016 at 5:46 pm #1309365This current team when you factor everything in.
More players playing there part in the team and scoring goals.
Belief from the fans and players.
A real world class manager in Jurgen Klopp unlike Brendan.
Whether or not we win the league this season i believe we will win it under Klopp at some point.
Just a pity we can’t have Suarez back in this team, he would fit in perfect right now.
November 8, 2016 at 7:54 pm #1309530I wonder what we’d be saying if we were in the Rodgers season now and this season we’re in now was actually a few years ago. We’re bound to say what’s better about now because it’s current and fresh. Also because we’re hopeful about how the current one may go.
Both teams were great but prefer the football that we play now. I’d snap 2013’s hand off for Suarez though!
November 8, 2016 at 8:44 pm #1309566I think the squad this year is quite a lot better.
Firstly in terms of depth, there’s competition in almost every position now, which we didn’t have in 2014.
Then as good as that 2014 team was at dismantling opponents and getting that important first goal… Then often piling a few more on the counter… They did slow down and tend to look drained by about 60-70 minutes.
Would be interesting to see the breakdown of what minute our goals were scored in that season, but I’m sure it would show evidence that the team would tire and often burn themselves out. Not looking like a problem this year.Finally, the defense still has its problems but I think we’ve got a real quality player in Matip, and hopefully Karius too… I’m seeing improvement in this area compared to 2014.
Although as others have said, it’d sure be nice to have Suarez back 😉
Unfortunately a few other teams are looking very strong this year also (in 2014 that was not so much the case), so despite my view this team is a lot better… It’ll also be harder to win it this year.
November 9, 2016 at 5:32 pm #1310679Overall this current team is better balanced, but in 2013/14 they had Suarez! And thats the only thing missing from this team, a top 3 world class attacking player! But as Leicester proved, maybe you dont need a top 3 world class player (no disrespect to Mahrez and Kante intended)…
November 10, 2016 at 12:31 pm #1311522This squad is better balanced but we shouldn’t underestimate us under Rodgers, charlatan or not – that team was pretty damn good.
Also not sure if Suarez would have played as well as Sturridge, all I would say is that Sturridge whilst not as good as Suarez was pretty damn good that season and setup a lot as did Suarez. They we’re unplayable as a pair. Gerrard also contributed to the offensive play as did Sterling.
So whilst we have a better coach now – both Teams were equally good in there own right.
November 10, 2016 at 1:04 pm #1311573This is by far a better team and squad.
that team relied heavily on Suarez, too heavily.Strength in all positions is better, except central defence – with exception of Suarez.
More options for all positions
Better strength in depth
Better management
Better pressing of the opposition and work ethicNovember 10, 2016 at 1:50 pm #1311690our bench is very very strong these days.
November 10, 2016 at 4:36 pm #1311921Remember when people used to call us a one man team? Then when Suarez hit form we were a 2 man team.
What are they going to call us now, “the 6 man team and that guy who’s really good at scoring’s on the bench”?
ya we’re better now 😉
November 10, 2016 at 10:59 pm #1312203Both squads havd the same potential to do well – the biggest difference id now we have a good manager!
Aspas and Moses are now doing well – perhaps not as bad as they appeared under no real idea Rodgers?? -
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