Ronaldo the loser

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  • #1064448

    SensibleS7
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    Personally, I couldn’t stand the crybaby when he was at Man United. I was thinking in about Suarez when he made a meal out of any contact, but maybe that’s not the best of comparisons.

    Unique I find in this fella is that he largely plays for himself and his self-centered nature always shines through.

    Whilst he was not gracious towards Iceland, he is a natural born winner and let’s be honest, every team manager would welcome that type of passion.

    If and when I do cheer him on, it’s because when he is on the ball, his skills and dribbling ability are fantastic to watch.

    #1064469

    Mancity Jim
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    Sounds like you didn’t have too many friends at school with that attitude hatters. Sportsmanship goes hand in hand with good manners in my book. You and I are obviously cut from different cloth, if my kids behaved like Ronaldo does I would be embarrassed and they wouldn’t do it a second time! Strange as you you come across as a friendly non arrogant type on here, somehow I think you wouldn’t want your kids if you have any, adopting the same bad manners and lack of sportsmanship, but I could be wrong and each to their own. Jim

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    hatters
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    @ManCity Jim. In my days of playing football and rugby I was always the placid type and didn’t respond to goading or the like, neither did I incite any type of bad play.

    I would like to believe that I am very well raised and mannered, maybe even privileged. I don’t have kids yet so I guess I have not yet been in a position where I have to impose my moral compass on anyone else.

    One thing I will say, though, is that I don’t have an emotional reaction to the bad manners/character flaws of others in the workplace or my personal life – I might point it out but I won’t implore anyone to change nor does it annoy me/make me upset. It’s their problem, not mine. When it comes to watching football my attitude towards this is amplified even further.

    I guess as you say, each to their own mate.

    #1064535

    SensibleS7
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    Maradona might be an exception, but in general, I never like playing with people who are ball-greedy and don’t release the ball to others.

    I was surrounded when I was in secondary school ‘superstars’ who wouldn’t pass the ball even when I was free.

    It was only when I left school and played at my local park religiously every Sunday, I found the game more pleasurable.

    Ronaldo’s 32 and he still behaves like he did when he was at Man United – when will he grow up???????

    PASS THE BALL to your teammates – involve them!!!!!

    Notably, I don’t often see that much team play between him and Gareth Bale!!!!!

    #1064541

    Mancity Jim
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    Good for you hatters, I couldnt help thinking that you and I were not so different. To not be annoyed by the bad manners and poor Sportsmanship of others is an enviable trait, which I am not blessed with. Manners and sportsmanship cost nothing, something the world’s best paid player has obviously never learnt sadly for him. That’s why so many will always consider him as a prat. You exluded of course. Jim

    #1064544

    Mancity Jim
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    Good for you hatters, I couldnt help thinking that you and I were not so different. To not be annoyed by the bad manners and poor Sportsmanship of others is an enviable trait, which I am not blessed with. Manners and sportsmanship cost nothing, something the world’s best paid player has obviously never learnt sadly for him. That’s why so many will always consider him as a prat. You exluded of course. Jim

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    Mancity Jim
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    Apologies for the double post, I find this website or my phone to be slow these days. Possibly due to the annoying adverts.

    #1064565

    Manthistle
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    Ronaldo has a strong drive and will to win. He works harder than most footballers to be the best. He hasn’t got as much natural talent as players like Messi. He strives for perfection. Unfortunately that means that when he doesn’t attain it he gets frustrated. On the pitch he lets his frustration get the better of him which results in him being a bad sport. Away from the football pitch though he is a gentleman and does a lot of work for charity, certainly a lot more than most footballers.

    #1064574

    Mancity Jim
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    On the pitch and also after the game it would seem, with his ill judged sour grapes. Craig Bellamy did an enormous ammount for charity, but had a similar temperament as Ronaldo on the pitch or off it, few liked him either!

    #1064595

    NotoriousBingo
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    Ronaldo was just put off by this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u88_xBoaJY no wonder his shots were strays all day long.

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    hatters
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    @mancity jim. I think we are in agreement on this topic but you have now peeled another layer to this debate.

    As you say, Ronaldo and Craig Bellamy are big proponents of community development and charity but yet their sporting personas have clouded their charitable work while a serial tax evader like Lionel Messi is viewed in a better light because he’s a “good sport”.

    Also, considering Ronaldo has also gone out and built his own Ronaldo museum does this make him less credible in his big efforts for charity?? Considering how much money these footballers have and how charity can reflect well on their image/marketability how sincere are these charity and outreach efforts really?? Does Lance Armstrong being a confirmed cheat and liar make his charitable causes for cancer less noteworthy?

    There are a lot of questions here and it once again speaks to football and morality (or the appearance therof), to some football and morality mix but to me they don’t because I don’t know these people personally. We only see snippets of who they actually are.

    In the end they are simply custodians of our viewership. They entertain us and they do so with their feet. The sportsmanship/lack therof, the scandals and the narratives that surround football only serve as fluff to me, as “additional entertainment” or as a sideshow.

    #1064607

    Paxman
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    Hatters – I think your attitude may change once you have children. My son is 15 and I have spent the last 10 or so years attending his football religiously every Saturday morning, and when you see children acting like him because they look up to him it makes you realise that he has a responsibility as a role model to set a good example for all the children round the world that look up to him.

    #1064610

    Paxman
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    Manthistle – You are correct, he is not as naturally gifted as some, and he has a fantastic work ethic, and will to be the best player he possibly can be, and those traits are admirable. Those traits I would welcome any young player to follow, but it is no excuse for his lack of sportsmanship, there is just no excuse for it what so ever.

    #1064613

    Paxman
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    I heard a good stat this morning, Ronaldo has had 34 attempts from free kicks in tournament football and he has scored 0 goals.

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    hatters
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    @paxman. I take your point wholeheartedly. I know how much children have a propensity to copy what they see and in that light I understand your views towards Ronaldo and his sore loser mentality being unacceptable as a role model.

    Just like Lance Armstrong being a drug cheat, Maradona being a cocaine addict, Messi being a tax evader, Suarez being racist, OJ Simpson being a murderer/burglar etc. etc.

    Problem with role models in sport is they usually turn out to have flaws just as any other human, they just happened to be very good in a broadcast event.

    I can only imagine how difficult it must be for a father to tell his son what is wrong and right with all the competition out there for the kid’s attention (internet, television, etc).

    #1064691

    Mancity Jim
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    Good points about Messi and Armstrong hatters, tbh although I knew a bit about it until manthistle mentioned it and I looked it up I had no idea how much Ronaldo had done for charity. Fair plays to him for that. Similarly Bellamy has done lots of charity work in i think siera Leone which when I found out about it it placed him in a new light. To build your own museum to yourself is a tad egotistical and I still think he has poor manners and showed very poor sportsmanship not shaking hands and slagging off Iceland.

    #1064709
    Romansdirtypants
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    Hatters, Paxman, winning matters, all those sports stars, disgraced or not in the case of Messi as the court case is active in media terms. They all did what they did to get ahead of the competition rightly or wrongly. Eventually they were all caught. I dont think there is much wrong with Ronaldo. He’s a man who is born to win. Jose is another, Clough was another as is Sir Alex Ferguson. Some people have it wired into themselves. It’s fine to behave like Ronaldo so long as when you leave the football pitch you realise that it is only a game and there are far more important things in life. After the shower, the team talk or dressing down from a coach, go and mingle and reflect on the game with the oppo and say your sorry’s then. Everything is a little less emotive and perspective can be offered or excused. I had a barney with a slip on a cricket square once. A few beers afterwards and we were all giggling about my antics while the ball was up in the air. It helped I was out the next ball I faced but you catch my drift.

    #1064763

    Paxman
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    Hatters – Luckily my sons managers were very good and any of the type of behaviour would not have been tolerated, but when we travelled to some of the rougher areas there was plenty of unacceptable behaviour from the kids, although to be fair some of the parents weren’t good role models so what would you expect 🙂

    You keep banging on about Suarez being a racist when the FA panel actually stated that Suarez was not a racist, which seeing as his granddad is black it would be being racist against himself, the fact is he used language that is acceptable in South America and widely used, but is not acceptable in England and could cause racial offense.

    #1064793
    hatters
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    @paxman. I strongly doubt Suarez is racist but I do believe that he made a slur to Evra which was taken to be discriminatory. I have heard some things in rugby rucks you wouldn’t hear uttered by Jimmy Carr but I understand there is an “animalistic” nature to sports. The blood pumps to your legs, arms, and lungs instead of going to your brain. In short, some men morph to their most basic form on the sports fields – as if they devolve to an extent.

    This is the beauty of sport for me. It allows us to have an enemy and to “battle” without lives or dignity being lost. Some play unfair while others choose to stay as gentlemen throughout. I fully agree with RDP, he is cutting straight to the core of sport and it is undeniable that SAF, Clough, Mourinho, and Ronaldo are born winners. Losing really grates them and they are the type who congratulate the winners through gritted teeth.

    I know Suarez is one of your favourites and I should maybe say he is an “alleged racist” or “was found guilty of racism” instead of branding him a racist. Either way I am sure, as RDP says above, that when Suarez steps off the pitch and all is done and dusted he is a very nice guy (whether he said the racist slur or not).

    #1064835

    Mancity Jim
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    You should agree to dissagree on Suarez now and move on.

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