Stoke booing Ramsey disgraceful.

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    Shows what a nasty club they really are. I never had a problem with them to honest, granted I never was a fan of their play under Pulis. I started finding myself warm towards the club with a new style of play under Hughes. Then they go show their class by booing Ramsey. As if Ramsey asked his leg to be broke in several places and it facing a complete different direction. Horrible ‘wee little club’ as SAF once famously said. Located in an unknown entity which is called Staffordshire. What was that thing that went viral? Oh yeah… ‘What a sh*thole!’

    #800231
    Johnny Utah
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    Booing? How horrible. I hope they didn’t whistle at him as well. It’s clear that Stoke fans should of offered to give him a big hug. Scoundrels.

    #800270

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    Should of, could of, would of… should have, could have, would have.

    #800378
    Johnny Utah
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    LOL! Arsenal, it’s hard to like ’em!

    #800405

    the bsm walk
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    Yeah, it’s hard to also like someone that spends his days here trolling United fans on here and doesn’t add anything else to any sort of debate. Well done.

    #800462

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    It doesnt make any sense why Stoke fans do it. It makes them look backwards and ignorant, to boo a player who had his leg broken by one of their own players over six years ago.

    Although it didnt help when Pulis in the aftermath of the incident was very passive aggressive to Wenger and Arsenal. Stoke, Shawcross or Pulis have never issued an apology of any sort and seem to think Arsenal are simply whining when we voice our displeasure at the ‘tackle’.

    Anyways, Ramsey has moved on.

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    TipTapGoal
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    Stoke fans embarrassed themselves massively imo. But we know what to expect so it hardly comes as a surprise. Their fans remind me of a more northern version of chelsea. Lets hope they fall short of a european place, the inevitable international incident they cause ala the paris subway incident would only serve to further damage our reputation on the continent.

    #800639
    Johnny Utah
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    It was a bad tackle but an accident. Has an Arsenal player never made a bad tackle or elbowed someone and broke their jaw? It’s time to move on, booing is panto nonsense.

    #800753

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    Johnny, I can’t believe you’re missing the essence of this whole point. What did Ramsey do to get booed, all commentators even those on radio kept constantly commenting did Ramsey do anything wrong, did he ever bad mouth them (Stoke) or Shawcross for that matter? Not even a single time. So for being the victim you should be hurled abuse and boos? Maybe they do it in your neck of the woods in Yorkshire, not from where I’m from. We were brought up with manners. Disgusting behaviour, oh and it’s because we’re southern nancy’s right? No class.

    #800759
    no_more_heroes
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    Wasn’t just booing. They also sang “Aaron Ramsey: he walks with a limp”.

    They almost sound proud about it.

    #800777

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    Probably because they always boo Shawcross who went off the pitch crying after the tackle.

    #800786

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    Probably due to the pathetic overreaction afterwards towards Shawcross. It was an accident, yet your manager was asking for him to be banned for life etc. Opposite to how Shaw and United reacted. These accidents happen in football.

    #800798
    Mark Holmes
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    Thought you might be interested in my views as a Stoke fan.

    Firstly, every Arsenal player got booed on the ball yesterday, just like every Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea player gets booed. Some criticise it, but there’s a reason why these clubs rarely win at Stoke – the atmosphere can be very intimidating.

    In any case, it’s only panto as Jonny says and hardly anything to get upset about. Likewise the chant – I’ve seen articles written about the ‘he walks with a limp’ chant, but let’s not forget there’s a chant sung by Arsenal fans about Jews when Spurs win and you lose. Hissing at WHL, songs about Adebayor, Hillsborough, Munich…there are much worse things sung by football fans than that chant about Ramsey yesterday. He got his leg broken but is now absolutely fine. Get over it! It’s also worth pointing out it was sung once in the whole game by a few hundred – I couldn’t even hear it from my end of the ground.

    As for why there is any bad blood towards Ramsey or Arsenal, blame Arsene Wenger. Plenty of players get their legs broken, but Wenger made a huge deal out of it and vilified Shawcross. He has also made lots and lots of negative comments about the club both before and after the incident.

    Throw in Ramsey not accepting an apology (Arsenal fans will say it’s his prerogative, but have you ever heard of any other player not accepting an apology for a mistimed tackle?) and the fact that he (allegedly) told Chris Coleman he didn’t want Shawcross called up to the Wales squad, and yes, there is some bad feeling towards him.

    So, no, he really isn’t booed for getting his leg broken.

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    TipTapGoal
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    Mark, your response doesn’t surprise me one bit. Your answer to the critisism your club has faced is almost textbook, Its become the typical action of any football fan to point at other fans and say “but look what they do”. It’s very childish – school ground stuff really. Your argument makes no sense, all it helps to do is absolve blame, of course there are worse things in football, i personally didn’t hear anyone argue any different. But that is not what we’re talking about. Lets look at yesterdays incident in isolation, and condemn it for what it was. It was in very bad taste and totally classless. Stoke fans have a reputation of being a bit brainless. I even heard them boo losing a throw on, but then i kind of understand that as i know how much throw ons used to mean to your lot. (That’s my only cheap dig at your lot, i promise!) Anyway, don’t deflect attention – quite a lot of your fans were a disgrace yesterday, no matter what you say on here is going to change that. We’ve moved on from what happened many years ago and a lot of what was said from our side happened in the heat of the moment because the emotions were obviously still very raw, which i think was a very understandable reaction to seeing a promising young player with his leg broken in bits. what’s your excuse for still harping on about it all these years later?

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    Mark Holmes
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    If Arsenal fans have moved on, then why was Shawcross booed yesterday? And why were they singing that song about him being a c**t? Neither set of fans are any less tribal than the other, but it’s a storm in a tea cup.

    I’m not deflecting attention, I’m merely pointing out that the reaction to yesterday’s chant is way over the top. I described it on Twitter as ‘faux outrage’ as I can’t honestly believe anyone was genuinely offended by the ‘he walks with a limp’ chant. Furthermore, it was song only once and by a small minority anyway so hardly justifies your comments that many Stoke fans were a ‘disgrace’.

    As for booing and being brainless, the fans have played a major part in Arsenal’s terrible record at Stoke. They know exactly what they are doing. Seems pretty clever to me.

    #801005

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    These Arsenal fans are so precious, get over it, you player was booed, it happens in every game up and down the country every week, why get upset?

    #801026
    TipTapGoal
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    I think you’ll understand that every club has a bogey team, just happens to be that we don’t seem to do that well at stoke. Yet we always smash you at home so what would be your reason for constantly losing at our ground? It certainly isn’t the uncomfortable atmosphere you face. I think you are putting too much importance on your overly enthusiastic fans. The reason why we lost previously is simply because we never had a GK good enough to deal with your style of play, now we do. Its as straight forward as that really, got nothing to do with anything else. The fact we were missing sanchez and ozil and still got a respectable point says a lot. I have 100% confidence we would have won with either of those two on the field. And even with our 2nd choice midfield pairing we weren’t outclassed. By all means scream the house down, flick the V’s, be outraged about the opposition successfully passing a ball to his teammate, the swine, how dare he! But when people comment about how stupid you look and that you’re supposed to be grown men, don’t be surprised.

    #801032
    hatters
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    @paxman. The reason why Arsenal fans take exception is because their club is superior to all the other ones; similarly, the fans are superior people to the rest of us as well. Arsenal are financially responsible, they play fair, they play football as it should be played, and their farts don’t smell either.

    That is why it is completely unacceptable for opposition fans to boo them or their players. They are the exception.

    #801035
    Mark Holmes
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    I’m not surprised, TipTapGoal, and nor am I bothered. You don’t believe has played a part in Stoke’s excellent home record against the top clubs over the years, but I certainly do and so do plenty of others.

    Lots of players have spoken about it over the years, even Yorkshireman James Milner!

    “Their style of football has changed more recently, but the atmosphere the home fans create can intimidate some teams.”

    You’re certainly right that Cech made a massive difference for you yesterday, incidentally. A draw was a fair result on the day, but I did comment during the game that we’d have won had Szczesny been in goal. Cech is a top-class keeper and a top-class keeper, as shown by his post-match comments.

    It was a massive result for Arsenal really as a defeat would have led to the same old comments about mental strength and no doubt knocked the players’ confidence. But you’ve done what neither Man City nor Man Utd could do at Stoke so you’ve got every right to feel confident. I personally still think City will win the title, but it all depends on who suffers the least injuries.

    #801038
    mark_ozzy
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    Oh Hatters, you had to go there didn’t you 🙂

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