Summer Transfer Window 2017

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  • #1485370
    nediarb2
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    Getting two left backs makes sense if one of them is 17. I don’t want to go into another season with Milner as first choice in that position. We clearly need a CB to partner Matip. Lovren is not good enough, he came within a hair’s breadth of costing us fourth place on Sunday and makes far too many mistakes. We also need a central midfielder. Reports of our interest in Keita imply that the club are aware of this. An attacking midfielder and a striker too if we are going to compete in the PL and the CL. That’s at least five new players in my opinion.

    #1485374

    ant993
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    My personal opinion in priority is

    Lb
    Pacey attacker
    Midfielder
    Cb

    Whatever happens we need to add pace to this team, when/if mane is unavailable we have none in the team. It is the main reason we struggle when he is not in the side, honestly I would be happy with three big signings and perhaps a few squad players to. Time will tell, I just don’t think with lovren signing that huge contract we will spend big at cb. Clyne, Matip, lovren and new lb to start next season.

    #1485418

    Lee Simpson
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    I agree even though he did well at times I’d still would like us to bring in an experienced left back. I see we are linked with Casillas. He’s not the keeper he was. Would be play? He could help Mignolet and Karius if they are still here. I wouldn’t mind Salah for the pacey attacker role. I’d love us to try for Griezmann but I don’t think he’ll come. Carrasco is quality as well. I’ve heard Bayern may want to sell Douglas Costa. Lucas Moura could be available from Paris St Germain. He has the work rate so would be able to press. Again, he may not come but that’s the type of signing we should be going for. All of these players would add quality to our squad. We could try and get Fabinho for the defensive midfield role. Monaco may sell if we put in a good bid. We also need a partner for Matip. I think 4 quality additions is enough. Too many players coming in could be dangerous.

    #1485431
    Stagger
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    I want a RB that can get a cross into the box. Milner has had a better season than Clyne by far. I agree a natural left back would be better but if I could choose just one of them to replace in the first team with a gun fullback back it would be Clyne.

    #1485432
    nocturnal_red
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    Lucas moura or Douglas Costa would be a great addition, great players with plenty of pace and also adding to the Brazilian contingent is a good idea… I don’t think they are unattainable targets especially if the respective clubs want to sell them

    #1485448
    MrMakaveli
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    I just don’t understand why everyone wants to replace Milner. His age is the least used excuse but it’s the most sensible one for me. It seems to escape people that Milner is the best crosser of the ball in our team. That might not be our main method of attack but it’s vital for when teams sit back. He’s fine defensively, he’s probably the most determined player in our tam right now, he’s got vision for a pass when we’re looking to break quickly. I’d sooner replace Clyne and I’m deadly serious. I still probably wouldn’t replace Clyne (this is another topic worth talking about though) unless we found someone truly special but I’m making a point.

    With the reemergence of Emre, I wonder if we’ll be signing a top CM at all. Lucas appeared to say his goodbyes in the last game so I guess it’s still possible as we will have more games. . but Grujic has been “promised” more first team involvement next season. . whatever happens, I think Henderson has to give up the captaincy, he can’t play enough games to hold that title.

    I think our main efforts in this window will be in attack. You could argue that we need 1 winger and 2 strikers. I don’t rate Origi and I can’t see us wanting to keep Sturridge but if there are no buyers, we may have to :

    ________, Firmino,_________, Sturridge, Origi, Ings.

    That is how I would expect to see our fowards in order of importance for next season. One of the new players would effectively be replacing Sturridge and the other would do the same for Origi, selling to buy where possible.

    That may only leave us with 4 FWs going into next season, with one of them maybe not being able to feature much (Ings) but the answer lies in the winger. Brandt or someone like him who is well able to play across the top could provide good cover when needed.

    I’d sell Moreno and try and get someone to act as cover for Milner and maybe get in a 5th CB, 3rd or 4th choice. . but besides that i think we’re good to head into next season.

    #1485458

    Sean the sailor
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    Is it Macca on Liverpool rumours lads? He’s usually spot on

    Bingo, lovren just makes to many mistakes. Look at Sunday. He should have been sent off. How he didn’t anticipate were that pass was going is crazy. He was far to slow to react. Then he panics in our box later in the game and boots the balk out. He really could have cost us. He can play some really good games but I just don’t trust him

    #1485467
    AK
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    Mak My opinion on Milner is he is not effective @ LB against teams who park the proverbial bus for two reasons. Firstly he can not stretch the play by getting to the by line he mostly cuts back to cross which is pointless with our forwards. Secondly when these teams hit us on the counter he does not have the pace to recover. Against the top six he played very well & overall had a good season but i see why we need another option someone who could be first choice in a year or two. Clyne has been poor for the last 6 months when he gets the ball in the final third our attack is pretty much over. I was hoping the competition from TAA would give him a kick up the backside Klopp may need to bench him to reignite his form.

    Douglas Costa yes please!

    #1485474

    gingerlfc
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    Milner rarely if ever attacks and gets past the full back due to lack of pace. He constantly has to cut inside on to his right foot narrowing the pitch making it very predictable. In Klopps style of play fullbacks are very important. They provide the width and have to do a tremendous amount of high intensity running the entire length of the pitch.
    I can see Milner definately being replaced and it’s looking like Clyne may be too. His contribution in the final third is virtually non existent.

    #1485484
    j c
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    I’m not shy of criticising Lovren, and have done on here several times, but I think people are being a bit harsh on him for almost giving away that peno.

    It looked to me like he was trying to play offside, Matip definitely stepped forward, and the backline was a bit chaotic at that exact moment, I think he just got confused for a moment. And he didn’t use his arms to pull the player back, just stayed tight and in the end it wasn’t a stone waller by any means.

    But I’d still like to see us bring someone better in, as first choice to partner Matip next season.

    #1485498
    nocturnal_red
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    MrMak agree about your opinion on Milner , I would be happy with a young lad like Sessegnon as back up
    regarding forwards at best 1 Winger and 1 Striker should suffice for me… Ideally both players should be able to play across the front line
    Origi may come good or not but he’s good enough for 3rd/4th choice right now and he has shown he can get goals

    #1485501

    gingerlfc
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    Appartaly Luan is our choice for striker but has complicated 3rd party ownership issues which are causing an obstacle.

    #1485504

    ant993
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    Hi mrmak, I agree with ak/ginger in regards to why we need to replace Milner, it’s the reason I would say that lb should be a higher priority than cb. Don’t get me wrong he has been brilliant at lb for us this season but he has been brilliant for a midfielder playing lb, it’s a square peg in a round hole and it does show. I have seen it numerous times this season where he has been unable to recover which means the cb (Usually lovren) is pulled out to help him, this leaves gaps that the opposition exploit. Teams focused many attacks down our left, sticking s pacey player on him and again required assistance to recover. Because of this the balance at the back is off at the moment, it’s why I don’t see lovren as an issue. I’m not saying that’s our only issue in defence but it’s the biggest one for me at the moment. The next position has to be a forward with pace and ability to take a man on, moura would be s brilliant addition here.

    I also agree with the comments on clyne, he comes across as a player that on most occasions does just enough but never really shines. He may get replaced eventually but I would be very surprised if it happened this year, think we have higher priorities in the squad.

    It’s very likely that Moreno will leave and rumours are we are asking for what we paid for him, buy a new lb to replace him and the wages won’t go up by much. I know we need to improve the squad but 3 or 4 new players that push the current first 11 improves the bench also. Still think we will see more players leave than we bring in this summer but most of those will be the ones out on loan.

    #1485517
    Bob-Notts
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    Lovren makes too many mistakes for a first choice cb and actually for me there’s a reason for it. I think he’s a good defender, problem is he struggles to play a high line and doesn’t have the pace to get back if required. I’d keep him as a good quality backup. In a team playing deeper he would look and be better and more self assured.

    #1485541

    Sean the sailor
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    Jc, problem is lovren gets confused far to much.

    #1485588

    Songman
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    When looking at WhoScored today, out of curiosity, Milner was in the team of the season, based on match ratings – subjective I know, before any of you start getting worked up. The stats don’t lie however, so he must have done a good job to be included – note Firmino was the other Liverpool player in this team, and Mane was definitely on course to be in this team before he got injured.

    But for me we still need to buy a specialist left-footed left-back who is better and faster than Milner. We can use Milner as backup for left-back or central midfield, and there will be more than enough games to keep him happy

    #1485591

    liverlad
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    I’ve read time & time again about Sturridge leaving & with his injury problems I understand why.
    But will he? He has two years left on his contract, why would he want to leave, I am sure he would be happy to see out his contract than go elsewhere & get paid less. LFC have a problem with this & the only way I see him moving is that we pay part of contract.

    We will have to see what happens, & if he does leave hopefully it will be beneficial to us.

    #1485613
    MrMakaveli
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    Well, I disagree lads. it isn’t all about beating the last man with pace in order to get a cross in, especially in our team. Milner has the game know-how to be positioned correctly and time his run to have someone like Lallana (or anyone else really) to lay it on for a cross, which he has done quite a lot of. If you want to talk about cutting inside too often then we’ll have to bring Coutinho in on this conversation.
    Also you guys aren’t wrong when it comes to our team not being suited to crossing but that isn’t Milners fault. How many times has he gotten a great cross in only for Origi to be playing with himself on the far wing or edge of the box? This can’t be cited in a manner approaching “we shouldn’t do this because we’re not setup for it” either because this is maybe the most effective way to break down 2 banks of 4. So if anything, we need more of this from milner and not less. What we need are people who will attack a cross.
    On the break, milner isn’t the fastest in the world to get back but I wouldn’t call him slow. Our WBs are as offensive as WBs can get so don’t be stunned in Klopp is happy with Milner, I think if anything Milner might be the one who asks for a change.

    Looking at milners stats doesn’t bode well. He only has 3 assists but he’s been involved in the build up to loads of our goals, if I remember right, particularly our really good form.

    This team is low enough on charcater as we’ve sene in plenty of games just this seaosn and people want to replace one of the few with a natural fight in him. He’s got nerves of steel too, missing his first PL penalty in 8 years just a while ago. These are qualities we’ll need next season, so be careful what you wish for. In wanting (and getting) that younger, faster WB you might yearn for the player who can cross a great ball in the dying seconds under pressure of elimination, like for Lovrens goal against Dortmund. You might also find yourself lookign at who’s taking our 5th penalty in a shoot-out and remember someone. . .

    #1485618
    MrMakaveli
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    “but he has been brilliant for a midfielder playing lb, it’s a square peg in a round hole and it does show”

    I disagree with this entirely. I think he’s been brilliant at LB, end of sentence. When you’re filling in at one position from another, maybe people are more willing to look at your weaknesses or mistakes and each time highlight them as “oh if we had a dedicated LB that wouldnt happen”. Nobody is suggesting that milner is perfect but he’s been excellent for me, regardless of anything and this square peg in a round hole is an insult to his contribution this season.

    I think people would give him a lot more credit were he just a LB and never a Midfielder.

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    gingerlfc
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    Klopps actively trying to replace him.
    That should speak volumes to you.

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