Teresa May

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    Realise I’m a day late to the party on this but just seen her speech today. That was one of the best bits of politics I’ve ever witnessed…and I’ve watched one of Berlusconi’s home made video tapes.

    Not sure she can limp on after that, you need to be able to take your Prime Minister seriously.

    #1541748

    nine nine nine
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    Shock revelation human beings cough and splutter if they have a cough and a cold.😊

    #1541771
    Wonderfuel Gas
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    Ha! Not seen a politician suffer a malfunction like that in my lifetime, it just doesn’t happen to accomplished public speakers. Having read the actual transcript of the speech though it actually covered over a pretty hollow piece of work that didn’t set very much out at all.

    #1541792

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    WG, I’ve done a lot of stand up presentations in my career to multiple audiences from Japanese higher managementto the media and from small to large and it can happen.

    Personally politics aside I identified with her and felt for her in that situation but can understand why the media and the opposition seized upon it if you stumble in politics despite that stumble was entirely human then the wolf pack will be upon you hungry for your blood.

    “Didn’t set very much out” perhaps should read didn’t give away the tens of billions that Corbyn gave away at the Labour Conference that we don’t have but it’s easy to be generous in opposition when you don’t have to account for what you propose to give away.😊

    Can May hang on?

    Very difficult to see her getting to the end of the year let alone to the end of Brexit but from the countries perspective the last thing the country needs now right in the middle of the Brexit negotiations is a leadership election followed by a General Election. Which would probably produce either another hung Parliament. Cheers 999

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    D1rtyH4rry
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    Theresa Mays days are numbered, as is her party in government. When you have the current foreign secretary saying re Libya, something along the lines of, as soon as they clear away the dead bodies it can be the next Dubai and actually keeping his job. You know something is seriously fucked up. Especially when the only argument is “at least they’re not Corbyn”. It’s quite pathetic really.

    #1541938
    Wonderfuel Gas
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    Well I’m not in any place to doubt your expertise nine as my public speaking extends to gobbling off at the match! But I’ve not seen anything like it from someone quite so high profile and the fact it happened straight after the interloper suggests she choked because she was rattled and didn’t have the confidence to deal with it.

    Not talking about opposition speeches, I’m talking about hers and it was dreadful. Her team want sacking for ripping off Chinese slogans about the British dream and her big announcement on house building was a sham when you strip it down to the figures.

    If there had been a credible candidate to take over with enough party support behind them she wouldn’t have survived the June debacle and that’s pretty much why she survives after this week. Had that from a couple of well placed Tories too!

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    WG,I thought May handed the interloper quite well even managing to make a joke out of it but it’s tough coping with a cough.

    But I agree with you the Election Campsign was a debacle and defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory albeit the Tory vote was increased and if there was a credible candidate with sufficient support she would have already been replaced.

    Tbh I can’t see her going much longer although a half decent Brexit might save her.

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    I think the party will and are rallying behind her, it is a case of necessity according to tory MP’s if they have a change in leadership another Generally election will be pushed onto the and they realise if there was another election now they would lose. So with this being the case I don’t think she will get a challenger until after Brexit, leaving her to take the fall for it.

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    I’m not sure there’s any fall to take for delivering what the country voted for all May is doing is delivering the will of the people and she was a remainer too!

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    D1rtyH4rry
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    The will of just over half the people 9, just over half.

    #1542519

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    Harry which correct me if I’m wrong was the majority vote right?

    And I’m a remainer!😊 But I believe in democracy and the will of the people over everything else.

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    Harry – Just over half of the people that voted, as has been shown since less than half the country want it, so there is more than half that will blame her for it going wrong, this is why Labour has shown such an increase in support. I am not excuse the people that didn’t vote, they were idiots and are to blame, they though remain would cruise it as shown by the polls so they didn’t bother going out to vote. Idiots.

    #1542535
    D1rtyH4rry
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    You are right in that assessment. But wrong to think any remainer won’t hold the government to account for a bad Brexit, which given it is roughly half the voting population could really have an effect on the next GM. I would also like to point up that just because someone is unhappy with Brexit, doesn’t mean they don’t believe in democracy. It’s crass to make that kind of suggestion.

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    nine nine nine
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    Harry, Crass? You were the one questioning the validity of the majority mate!😊

    #1542542

    nine nine nine
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    Pax, but the official position of the Labour Party is that they support Brexit right?

    #1542545

    nine nine nine
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    Personally I think there should be an all party negotiating team negotiating Brexit.

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    999 – You are right about the labour position on being for Brexit but it is not as black and white as that there are many intricacies involved, and there are larger and more important decisions to be made than what was decided in the referendum, as things stand it is like we have voted to move house but we have no idea of where the house or going to be located, what it is going to look like or how much it is going to cost. As I am sure you will agree no one would do that in their own lives.

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    D1rtyH4rry
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    When did I question the validity of the vote? I merely pointed out that a bad Brexit is bad for whoever is in government at the time. You didn’t seem to think so as Brexit was the will of the people.

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    Harry – You are spot on if people are worse off and struggling financially whether they voted for Brexit or not they will blame the government, there has already been plenty of bad news stories that Brexit has been a large contribution to, and Brexiteers just say ‘It had nothing to do with Brexit and would have happened anyway’.

    I personally have one of my own after applying for a job at the Nissan development center for the UK, but then they decided to freeze all recruitment until they know what Brexit is about because if it is not good they are going to move all uk operations to mainland Europe.

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    Harry, please don’t tell me what I thought. I was and remain a “Remainer” and continue to believe Brexit is not in our best interests but I accept the majority in the Referendum voted for Brexit so it’s the duty of the Government to deliver that whether that had been Labour Government or is Conservative Government.

    I see no point in posting “the will of just over half the people 9, just over half.” It was still the will of the majority of the people and the dye is cast now and we just have to get on with it and stop all the griping and suggestions that the vote is somehow not valid because the Brexit vote was so narrow and the opinion polls now show the vote might have been different if it was cast now.

    Nobody gets to keep voting until they get the answer they want.

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