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    Chelsea_Lee
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    Romansdirtypants – we’ve only just signed Giroud and you want to get rid. How about give the guy a chance? By bring on Giroud last night it allowed Hazard to float more freely. I think Giroud will come good and will score goals. The first half summed up why we need a ‘target man’, the ball was continually coming back at our defence. No one including hazard was holding the ball up & when you’re up against it, we need a player to do that to release the growing pressure on the midfield and defence.

    As for player power this has been an issue from 2006 onwards. However, I still blame the manager for this. If he was more brave and dropped players and brought in players like Musonda, it may have put these guys in their place especially if these youngsters come in and perform like Christenssen has. I just think we need a manager to be brave & give players a chance if those senior players aren’t performing.

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    Chelsea.man
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    I have to agree with Phwepsi, Luiz is a disruptive player. and the club made a huge mistake in not selling him on January. and he was part of the old Chelsea gang that used to undermine managers. i won’t be surprised if he is the ring leader.

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    NIBlue
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    Guys some very good points there in relation to destructive players. We appear to have yet another player from the same continent as the disruptive influence from this time last year, and the year before funnily enough with the same sheep following !!

    Over the years we have seen player power again and again at the club, the difference is this time they are not of the same quality nor are they delivering to be able to make demands!

    I would imagine a quick visit to Cobham from a Rich Russian where a certain player is invited to attend a meeting with same Russian and first team coach, resulting in same player unpacking his first team locker and move his car out of the first team car park to the youth section would see a remarkable change in attitude from the sheep!!!

    But more chance of Ray Wilkins getting a perm!!!

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    CL – agree with you. After one good game leading the line and then stating he could do that job, I do not think Hazard has been as influential at all and our attacks have broken down far too easily

    With Giroud, or Morata, on the pitch we have more of a target man and someone who can hold the ball up and bring others into play allowing Hazard that bit extra freedom to roam and therefore make him much harder to mark

    We have to change something because the last 2 games clearly show that not only have teams got us sussed but we seem to have lost confidence in our system and ability and IMO, heads are dropping far too easily (which is another point about leadership on the pitch but I will skip that for now)….? KTBFFH

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    Wise-fan
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    #1596116

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    It’s all about control of transfers and has always been all about control of transfers and whether he’s right or wrong Conte has overstretched the mark with his continuous outpourings to the media criticising the Board and Owner..’

    The same frustrations led to Conte falling out with Juve and leaving without any involvement from Mourinho.

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    Wise-fan
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    “If RealMadrid are interested in me they need to talk to Chelsea. Its true that my heart is in Madrid”

    Thibaut Courtois
    Chelsea fc Goalkeeper.

    Its about how much we can get for him now. That is one disadvantage of the loan system. Players will always have their heart somewhere else.

    #1596157

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    Courtois latest comments are down to his two young children living with their Mother in Madrid I don’t want him to go but I’m sympathetic to his situation.

    You’ve got me at it now too Wise Fan can we all me included try and keep to thread this is a “Next Chelsea Boss” thread there’s a Courtois thread that the above two posts should have appeared under if I was certain I could move them without probably deleting them I would.

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    BlueLion
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    Regarding the Conte / Mourinho article, it makes a nice story for the pro-united media, but I’ve never read such a pile of bullshit in all my life. Conte is a grown man and a professional manager at the very height of his profession. To suggest that a little bit of handbags with another manager (which I thought Conte clearly won by calling Mourinho out as a little man, something everybody knows but nobody has said) has anything to do with our recent form and Conte’s mood is just absurd. There are many possible reasons we are where we are:

    – Conte falling out with the board over transfers
    – injuries and loss of form of key players
    – our tactics have been figured out / poor team selections
    – key referee decisions going against us, as on monday night
    – didn’t strengthen / upgrade the squad enough over the summer
    – playing a lot more games than last season with not a big enough squad – fatigue
    – reportedly overworking the players in training

    A culmination of these reasons is probably the reason for our current crisis, nothing to do with Mourinho, its laughable.

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    If stories are to be believed then Roman has always admired Barca and wanted Chelsea to play along the same lines. He/we could not get Pep so I can easily see why he would want to approach Luis Enrique

    Persoanlly, I am far from convinced and dread the thought of the boring tippy tappy football that Barca and Arsenal love, however, if he does become our next manager then he will have my full support

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    phwepsi
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    Cfc

    We absolutley have not got the players to play tiki taka football half of the players especially at the back are scared to have the ball at their feet. I can see us playing better football under Enrique but i doubt he will be any sort of success

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    BL
    Great post mate 8.50am👍

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    notnice
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    Enrique is just another one of those managers that inherited probably the best squad in world football and carried on with its success. He has no other real top credentials, Roman is so easily fooled when it comes to taking on managers as they all have one kind of major problem or another. One thing I can say for sure they are all tasked to do by Roman but inevitably never do is using the successful youth and harnessing them into world beaters. This is where the root of all problems sits with Roman and yes he expects success at the same time. If we are truthful and stop looking for excuses and that includes everyone including managers and fans we have so many younger players that could have done much better than some of our current regulars.

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    Wise-fan
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    Totally agree with Notnice there. Luiz Enrique has inherited Messi, Neymar iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Pique, Alves, Alba, Macherano. And the club backed him on top of that. Racktic, L.Suarez. tell me which manager woulsld struggle with that squad and that two horse league? If you want the true Luis Enrique, just look at the one that managed Roma. Thanks ! I’m not prepared for that kind of manager. Personally my preferred manager is not available. So won’t mind Carlo Ancelloti if we get him to agree.

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    Sorry ancelotti as an interim if conte were to go before the end of the season but as full time, nah not for me
    If the mourinho mess 2nd time round taught us anything is not to go back
    Sentimental but never works

    #1596385

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    Ancelotti is now a dinasor and past his best. If you cannot win in Germany with Bayern then you know something is not right….!! KTBFFH

    #1596425

    nine nine nine
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    Whilst Enrique inherited great players at Barca he completely changed Barca’s style from Guardiola’s tika taka to a front three and getting the ball up to them quickly virtually by passing the midfield.

    It’s easy to say what Enrique achieved at Barca was all down to the players he inherited but Guardiola also inherited great players many of them the same great players Enrique inherited yet nobody dismisses Guardiola’s achievements at Barca and Gerard Martino who immediately preceded Enrique didn’t win one major trophy during his tenure at Barca and trophy winning ways at Barca were restored by Enrique in his first season after taking over from Martino and whilst he had a poor time at Roma it was his first senior appointment after getting Barca B promoted and he came back to Spain and did a great job at Celta Vigo before taking over Barcelona.

    Let’s also remember that last season even City fans were saying Guardiola can’t do it in the PL and in three years at Bayern winning a one/two horse league he couldn’t win the CL despite inheriting the reigning CL winners and imagine the criticism from one or two of the Armchair Quarter Backs on here were Chelsea to be beaten 4 nil at home in the CL as Bayern were by Real under Guardiola when Bayern were reigning CL Champions. ( Hope I’ve not tempted fate.😊)

    City are playing great football but look at their squad and the money Guardiola has spent even outspending United with circa £225m spent on the City defence alone.

    More than the Defence expenditure of 52 different countries!😊

    Whoever we consider to be the new Manager the majority probably wont have achieved what Conte has in four full seasons of club management.

    As for Carlo lovely man but that’s the problem and allegedly Carlo was sacked by Roman for being too easy going. What other Manager would have accepted the dismissal of his No 2 in Wilkins as passively as Carlo did? That tells you everything.

    Short term maybe if Conte is sacked Carlo could do a job but personally I doubt Carlo would accept just an interim role and going back to a previous Manager when you know his weaknesses wouldn’t be a smart move imo and as Carlo’s sacking was allegedly purely a Roman decision I can’t see it happening.

    Having said that whoever is appointed I will support because that’s what being a supporter means.

    #1596581
    notnice
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    hope so 999 for all his self inflicted troubles Conte is going to be difficult to replace but his body language does suggest he is yearning to go back home so it is inevitable he will be gone whether its his choice or the clubs.

    #1596594
    Stuilse
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    Seeing reports that it will cost us £30m if RA sacks Conte. He’s got about 16/17 months left on his contract. How on earth do they come up with 30m? Conte and his backroom staff? Don’t the club buy out the remaining value of his contract which is based on his salary? Any financial experts out there? Reckon the club are waiting to see how Conte fares in the CL ties with Barca, the FA Cup 6th round tie and our PL matches against the Manchester clubs.

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