Who would you keep and who would you sell?

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  • #1308606

    CM
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    1 De Gea – knight and shining armour- Keep

    3 Bailly – Has been impressive so far – Keep

    4 Jones – Injury prone,but only 24 and I believe Jose can get the best out of him – Maybe

    5 Rojo – Not good IMO – Sell

    6 Pogba – Hit and miss so far, but needs time to adjust – Keep

    7 Memphis – Poor attitude, could be another Ravel Morrison or Anderson, needs another season – Keep

    8 Mata – Really rate Mata, can be inconsistent, but always gives 100% – Keep

    9 Ibrahimovic – Really believe he should not be given an extension past the summer – Sell
    10 Rooney – Past his best and lack the cutting edge- Sell

    11 Martial – Poor season so far, off the field problems maybe or disgruntled over shirt number. Still one of the best prospects- Keep

    12 Smalling – Had a good season last season, been poor this season at times. Depends what side you believe, needs to man up – Keep

    14 Lingard – Good squad player at best – Keep

    16 Carrick – At 35, we cannot keep relying on him, time to move on – Sell

    17 Blind – Good utility player, better than O Shea and Neville – Keep

    18 Young – Can be treated harshly at times, comes in does a job, but can be poor on his day, at 31, time to move and allow Memphis to come in – Sell

    19 Rashford – Good young prospect – Keep

    20 Romero – Ok backup – Keep

    21 Herrera – Done well this season – Keep

    22 Mkhitaryan – Not being given a chance to judge – Keep

    23 Shaw – Hit and miss this season, Mourinho criticism and scepticism after leg break could be a factor – Keep

    24 Fosu-Mensah – Good young prospect – Keep

    25 Valencia – Has done well for United after having the pressure of replacing Ronaldo. Keep him as a back up – Keep

    27 Fellaini – Poor – Sell

    28 Schneiderlin – Not good enough IMO – Sell

    31 Schweinsteiger – Injury prone and too old now – Sell

    36 Darmian – Been inconsistent and looks unsettled – Sell

    Borthwick Jackson- Did well last season, not getting games at Wolves, good young prospect- Keep

    Pereira – Good young prospect – Keep

    Januzaj- Has had a few chances and struggling to get in to the Sunderland side – Sell

    I would keep 18, 1 maybe and sell 9.

    #1308711
    UnitedMatas
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    1 De Gea – Keep the keeper

    3 Bailly – Reminds me of Vidic. Let’s hope. – Keep

    4 Jones – Sell

    5 Rojo – Frustrates me. Sell (Preferably to Liverpool)

    6 Pogba – Keep

    7 Memphis – Torn. Like the idea of him, but done nothing to suggest it will bear fruit. – One season max, but he needs game time, or sell.

    8 Mata – One of my favourite players. Top midfielder for us since arriving. Keep and make sure he plays.

    9 Ibrahimovic – Still good. We need a new striker but I would keep Ibra.

    11 Martial – Keep

    12 Smalling – Has his moments, but ultimately, I doubt he’s good enough. Sell

    14 Lingard – Nah. – Sell

    16 Carrick – Let him retire here. He’s doing the business still at 35, when called upon. – Keep

    17 Blind – Good player. – Keep

    18 Young – Sell

    19 Rashford – Keep

    20 Romero – Keep

    21 Herrera – Liked him since day one. He’s got some passion and is a good footballer. – Keep

    22 Mkhitaryan – Would like to see him play. – Keep

    23 Shaw – Keep

    24 Fosu-Mensah – Think he’s overrated on this forum but would still keep him until he gets a good chance at it. Wouldn’t be surpirsed if he doesn’t make the grade though. – Keep

    25 Valencia – Keep

    27 Fellaini – A lot worse players than him. Adds a different option. Not starting 11 but I would keep him.

    28 Schneiderlin – Sell

    31 Schweinsteiger – Though he was very calm and cool under LvG. But no place for him and Carrick surely? Carrick > Bastian – Sell

    36 Darmian- Think he’s a good player, just needs a run of games. – Keep

    Borthwick Jackson- Keep

    Pereira – Looks the best young prospect to me, but wondering if he’ll get a fair go. – Keep

    Januzaj- Diminished – Sell

    #1308777

    happyhurling
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    No point in selling Rooney or Carrick because we won’t recuperate anywhere near the value of the experience they offer in the changing room. Our two most decorated players in a period where we’ve not looked like winning the title since Fergie left – their experience of winning is key to this new team.
    Schneiderlin, as with Memphis, would really annoy me if he was sold. Like I said previously, it wasn’t long ago that the team’s win ratio with him in it was massive (similar to Carrick’s). He’s not been given a chance by Mourinho yet so hopefully that’s to come. He was a great player at Southampton, starter for France – he is a quality player.

    The ones I would get rid of are Rojo and probably Fellaini. Maybe Jones too if he cannot sort out his injury problems. And Schweinsteiger.

    #1308864

    Manthistle
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    1 De Gea – keep
    3 Bailly – keep – not been as impressed as most others but he has potential
    4 Jones – loan out – needs to prove his fitness like Wilshere
    5 Rojo – sell – I could do a better job
    6 Pogba – keep
    7 Memphis – sell – he has the potential but the attitude is wrong and will never improve given the current mentality at the club. Another Ravel Morrison/Januzaj
    8 Mata – keep
    9 Ibrahimovic – release – wouldn’t offer him another contract when it expires in the summer
    10 Rooney – keep – We generally get better results when he plays so he offers something just not sure what
    11 Martial – keep
    12 Smalling – keep – I thought he was great last season. Not sure whats happened this season under Jose
    14 Lingard – keep – his attitude is far better than Memphis although his ability is worse and he’d happily be a squad player
    16 Carrick – keep – he’ll retire soon. Already doing his coaching badges
    17 Blind – keep
    18 Young – keep – no sell on value and he’s probably happy being a squad player
    19 Rashford – keep
    20 Romero – keep
    21 Herrera – keep
    22 Mkhitaryan – keep
    23 Shaw – keep
    24 Fosu-Mensah – keep
    25 Valencia – keep – similar to Young
    27 Fellaini – sell – I would pay a club to take him off our hands
    28 Schneiderlin – keep – needs to be given a run of games
    31 Schweinsteiger – sell – should never have bought him in the first place
    36 Darmian – Keep – similar to Schneiderlin
    Borthwick Jackson- Keep
    Pereira – keep
    Januzaj – Sell

    So sell 6, loan out one or two and keep the rest IMO

    #1309044
    Ika
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    1 De Gea – keep
    3 Bailly – keep
    4 Jones – sell – far to injury prone and a headless chicken
    5 Rojo – sell – useless player
    6 Pogba – keep
    7 Memphis – Keep – one more season
    8 Mata – keep
    9 Ibrahimovic – release – holding back martial and Rashford
    10 Rooney – release – to high profile to be a squad player
    11 Martial – keep
    12 Smalling – sell – lacks leaderships of an experience player and to me acts like he doesn’t care if we win or loose
    14 Lingard – sell – not good enough
    16 Carrick – keep – unlike Rooney the press won’t care if he’s a squad player
    17 Blind – keep
    18 Young – release – so Memphis can get a chance when back ups are called upon
    19 Rashford – keep
    20 Romero – keep
    21 Herrera – keep
    22 Mkhitaryan – keep
    23 Shaw – keep
    24 Fosu-Mensah – keep
    25 Valencia – sell – he ain’t gonna get better and holding back TFM
    27 Fellaini – sell – Not good enough
    28 Schneiderlin – keep
    31 Schweinsteiger – sell – should never have bought him in the first place
    36 Darmian – sell – not good enough
    Borthwick Jackson- Keep – should. Ever been loaned out in the 1st place
    Pereira – keep – one more season he has to break into the 1st team
    Januzaj – Keep – he has the talent and needs to be given one last chance

    So I’m dumping 8 players from this squad

    #1309176
    hatters
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    1 De Gea – keep
    3 Bailly – keep
    4 Jones – sell (sick note)
    5 Rojo – sell – (Borthwick Jackson is better and younger)
    6 Pogba – keep
    7 Memphis – loan him out to a La Liga side
    8 Mata – keep
    9 Ibrahimovic – release (too old)
    10 Rooney – keep (seems to have accepted squad rotation status, can add experience ala Giggs)
    11 Martial – keep
    12 Smalling – keep (good squad filler)
    14 Lingard – keep (good squad filler)
    16 Carrick – release (too old)
    17 Blind – keep
    18 Young – release
    19 Rashford – keep
    20 Romero – keep
    21 Herrera – keep
    22 Mkhitaryan – keep
    23 Shaw – keep
    24 Fosu-Mensah – keep
    25 Valencia – sell (hindrance to Fosu Mensah)
    27 Fellaini – sell
    28 Schneiderlin – sell
    31 Schweinsteiger – sell
    36 Darmian – sell (or keep, I am indifferent)
    Borthwick Jackson – keep
    Pereira – keep (he should take Memphis’ position in the squad)
    Januzaj – sell (waste of time and space, he might make an impression in his late twenties but doubt it)

    I would have 7 of the players out but I think we should only look at recruitment/retention at the end of the season. For now I want to see us ride it out and I want to see which players choose to stand out and be counted.

    No January transfers.

    #1309215
    simonas2702
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    1 De Gea – Daft question, keep at all costs!
    3 Bailly – keep – He has impressed me although no where near finished article
    4 Jones – keep – I’d give him this season to prove himself
    5 Rojo – sell – Top of my list to sell!!
    6 Pogba – keep – the lad is a class act build team around him
    7 Memphis –keep – see how he fairs with a run in the team. obvious super talent just rarely shows it, that display against Midjtaland convinced me
    8 Mata – keep – I think he is great and don’t understand the flak he gets
    9 Ibrahimovic – Keep for now but I would use him less
    10 Rooney – keep – He is on the “wane” but theres no doubting his influence and experience is an advantage
    11 Martial – keep – frustrating me with his lack of enthusiasm but a big talent
    12 Smalling – keep – Was spot on last season, struggled this season
    14 Lingard – keep – I don’t particularly rate him but resent performances have convinced me he can be a good squad player
    16 Carrick – keep – What would you gain from selling him. His experience is vital and he can still perform
    17 Blind – keep – decent squad player
    18 Young – keep – most undercided on this one. I don;t like him ability wise but he does do an honest job when on
    19 Rashford – keep but play upfront
    20 Romero – keep
    21 Herrera – keep decent player
    22 Mkhitaryan – keep, would love to see him in the team and settle
    23 Shaw – keep looks crap recently but he has got the ability
    24 Fosu-Mensah – keep, hope he is as good as we all hope
    25 Valencia – keep – Better than Young… just
    27 Fellaini – sell, sell sell can’t fault his effort and attitude but he makes us crap when he is on
    28 Schneiderlin – keep – no where near as bad as posters on here say
    31 Schweinsteiger – keep – we could do with his experience right now
    36 Darmian – Keep – for now until we get someone better
    Borthwick Jackson- sell – not good enough
    Pereira – keep as long as given some game time
    Januzaj – Sell he’s shite

    #1309272

    Blacky
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    I’ve given my list previously in other such threads and it totalled at least a dozen players to be binned off in a phased manner,the season so far has only reinforced that view.Find it amazing how certain players like Young,Jones and even chuffin’ Fellaini are still wanted by certain posters,deary me!.
    As for @simonas2702 above only wanting to bin off Rojo and Fellaini from this current squad of talentless,bollockless big girls blouse’s,well that leaves me bloody speechless for once!.?

    #1309278

    fergiesarmy
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    agree. simonas ur views of players are pathetic and yeah just pathetic. ffs man

    #1309281

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    Oh and another thing,not one person wants Romero out?!.Pretty certain that you would soon change your tune if DDG picked up a serious injury and this clown became first choice for 2 of 3 months!.He would be in my first batch of players to be booted out asap,simple as that.

    #1309296

    Manthistle
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    Yet again Blacky, anyone who has a differing opinion to yours is put down by you. Why can’t you accept that people have differing opinions and yours might not be the best?

    In terms of a GK, it’s difficult to get a decent keeper who is happy to play 2nd fiddle. It’s a risk most clubs take. I only know of Barca having two decent keepers and I think they do (or did) adopt a policy of one for the league and one for the cups to keep them happy.

    #1309329

    fergiesarmy
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    Carrick its blatantly obvious man come on look at that list.

    #1309374

    yorkshireman200
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    Out of that squad I would say its about 50-50. Who should certainly go are:
    Fellaini
    Rojo
    Memphis
    Romero
    Ibra
    Rooney
    Young
    Schneiderlin
    Januzai
    and probably Mata, Darmian, Jones and Smalling
    to retire:
    Carrick
    Bastian

    Not going to happen I know, but if we are going to improve Jose needs to be ruthless.

    #1309455
    Ika
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    Blacky Rome wasn’t built in one day that’s why i kept certain players in as you cant ditch them all at once however, if i was being ruthless i would ditch every player over the age of 25 apart from De Gea that wasnt signed this summer.

    The problems with this team is a lack of leaders all of our experienced players Rooney, Carrick, Smalling, Blind, Mata, Herrera, Fellaini, Schnerderlin, Valencia, Young have zero leadership skills.

    People keep banging on about this so called experience but what has it brought us in the last 3 years especially from Smalling, Carrick and Rooney all players from the Fergie era.

    The likes of Giggs and Scholes passed on their winning mentality to these 3 players but what are these 3 players giving to the younger players and players signed since Fergie left.

    #1309470

    Blacky
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    @MT – Get off your high horse sunshine you are far too touchy,I’m not putting down anyone.I’m just incredulous at certain choices of players who have just so obviously been failures over such a long period of time like the names I mentioned,ie Jones,Young and Fellaini.For them to go would really be a no brainer for the vast majority of our supporters,never mind me.
    Anyway,I’m surprised that you actually wanted to get rid of anyone at all pal,never mind the half dozen or so you listed out because only a few weeks ago you told us all that ‘our squad is better than City’s on a player to player basis’,now that view really would render the whole football watching world speechless,never mind myself!.??

    #1309476

    Blacky
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    @ika – Your squad list was far nearer to mine than certain other ones were mate!.Its like @ts7 said the other day,it’s about weeding out the ‘counts’ as he put it batch by batch a few at a time over the next 3 or 4 transfer windows.

    #1309488
    HailMartial
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    1 De Gea – keep
    3 Bailly – keep
    4 Jones – keep
    5 Rojo – sell (jan)
    6 Pogba – keep
    7 Memphis – sell (jan)
    8 Mata – keep
    9 Ibrahimovic – if he earns another contract, keep one more season, if not let go in the summer
    10 Rooney – sell (summer) if he can’t adjust to his limitations
    11 Martial – keep
    12 Smalling – sell (summer)
    14 Lingard – keep
    16 Carrick – let contract expire
    17 Blind – keep
    18 Young – sell (summer)
    19 Rashford – keep
    20 Romero – sell (summer – a firm believer that the second and third choice keepers should be homegrown / academy players due to playing so seldom with such limited opportunities to impress)
    21 Herrera – keep
    22 Mkhitaryan – haven’t seen him play except for brief cameos that he hasn’t impressed in. Keep for the season at least.
    23 Shaw – keep
    24 Fosu-Mensah – keep (loan in Jan)
    25 Valencia – sell (summer)
    27 Fellaini – sell (jan)
    28 Schneiderlin – sell (jan)
    31 Schweinsteiger – sell (summer – if Mourinho gives him the chance, I think he coukd be a good player to have for the season)
    36 Darmian – sell (summer)
    Borthwick Jackson- Keep (recall now)
    Pereira – keep and bring into squad
    Januzaj – Keep, if Moyes can get him firing again

    #1309491
    redblood
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    The thing is,we are talking about few things here,at the same time.1st being the January window,which should include players who are not considered to have any future at the club;
    Fellaini,Bastian,Jones,Rojo.Then comes the summer,and players out of contract.i.e.Carrick,Young,Zlatan,Romero,should let go.Then you look at players who need replacing;Valencia,Morgan,Rooney,Smalling,Darmian,Herrera,for which you hope to get decent money.Its not going to happen over ONE transfer window,it will take at least 2.Remember,some players arent 1st team players,so it doen`t matter how many we get rid of in one go.

    #1309494
    redblood
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    Forgot Januzaj and Depay,sell defo.

    #1309560

    jm1502
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    I’d keep
    De Gea
    Shaw (just)
    Fosu-Mensah
    Smalling (just)
    Bailly
    Herrera (just)
    Mkhitaryan
    Martial
    Rashford
    Pogba
    Ibrahimovic
    Memphis (just)

    In the case of Memphis I’d keep him because I think he’s a talent but also if we sell we’ll get fuck all so may as well take a chance.

    Better than I thought. When I started I didn’t think I’d have enough for a team. Wouldn’t actually be a bad starting eleven.

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