Serge Gnabry

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    The Oracle
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    Gnabry starring for Bayern against Spurs, he is apparently valued at £80million. Another catastrophic error of judgement by Wenger

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    Urban myth! For one he spotted him as a youngster played him when he was only 17/18, 2nd he offered him a new contract after injury then poor loan spell but he decided he did not want to stay. One thing that did come out was that although he went to another German club it was rumoured that Bayern really brought him and they would take him after that season and that’s exactly what happened although every one denied it at the time! Any way loved that he stuck it to them tonight as madness said your an embarrassment

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    Gnabry left due to a lack of opportunities and the way he was treated by Wenger FACT. He was particularly upset by being loaned to West Brom and that idiot Pullis, that convinced him that he wasn’t wanted. It’s another in a long line of players Wenger ruined for Arsenal. Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey and Gnabry. If Wenger was still with us Willock would have left with his brother and Smith-Rowe, Nelson, Maitland-Niles and Saka would already be history.

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    That is fact he decided to leave due to lack of opportunity but at the time he was not good enough to get in the team. But he was still offered a contract Wenger is well gone so let’s not keep dragging up stuff especially when it’s crap.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    i liked him but he never hit the potential with us, may have been himor AW but likley just age and injury, like a few stars (KDB, Salah) they dont alwasy play at the times they really click in to gear and make the selling club look daft….not a big issue for me and i wish the lad well and nice to see an ex gooner stuff 4 past our rivals in a humiliating defeat conceding SEVEN!!!

    they really are following our path as a club….when we used to lose 5-1 every year to bayern!

    also rumours that someone at the club has been shagging erics wife and casued loads of issues in the squad….

    #1787953
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    Steve2bath1, still haven’t woken up to Wenger then. It’s not crap that one of the best players in Europe left Arsenal for £5m and is now rated at £80m. He may have been offered a contract but it wasn’t a very good one and as he said himself “I was 4th or 5th choice wide man and when I was loaned to WBA I knew I had to leave”. And to sell him for £5m and buy the likes of Mustafi, Xhaka, Mkhitaryan and give Ozil €350,000 per week is why we are in this unholy mess. Over the last 3-5 years we have sold better players than we have bought. Take Abameyang out of the Arsenal side and we are a mid table team. When Wenger was sacked I said it would take 10 years and 3 managers to put it right, Dick never had a chance but he hasn’t helped himself with his team selection, tactics and selection of captain. We could certainly do with Gnabry today. £5MILLI0N was a joke.

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    Probably not a time for Wenger-bashing again as we have done that to death. Sufficient to say he sold Gnabry and the Ox and decided to keep Iwobi. However, I am half expecting our ex-manager to come out and say “I could have (re) signed Gnabry as I could see he was going to be a very good player!”

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    Good point Jeff, my gripe is had Gnabry been handled properly instead of appallingly we would have an outstanding talent on our hands. Too many people are bashing Dick already and our current status is not down to him it’s down to Wenger and that should be remembered. Dick has not helped himself with some decisions but he must be given at least this season. Great to see Gnabry state ‘North London is Red’. Really rubbed it in after scoring FOUR at the Spuds new ground.

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    Oracle- he has to take some blame though. We cannot say, after the amount of money he was given this pre-season that he was not provided with the tools to help overcome the mess Wenger left. I posted in the summer that in my view our priorities were- two good centre halves, a left back, a back-up right back and Xhaka replacement who was up to the job as a proper defensive midfielder as it looked like Torreira was on his way. What did we do? Spunk most of the money on a winger. Was that our priority? If Emery had NO choice in the new recruits and it was all Raul and Vish, fair enough. But, if he endorsed those new players he shares the blame for not moving us forward. If he meeky accepted others’ choices, then it says a lot about Emery and his lack of balls. How many other decent managers would put up with people above them deciding who should be purchased? Possibly those who are not elite managers at Real Madrid, Barcelona and PSG. Also, the lack of any coherent set of tactics, particularly away from home, has been the case for over a year now!

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    Jeff, I agree with your priorities. I’ve been banging on about central defenders for 10years, Wenger didn’t understand the importance of them, in fact he didn’t understand defending at all. I’ve always said we didn’t need a wide man, we often play with wing backs why would we need a wide man. We had Iwobi, Nelson, Saka, Smith-Rowe and as we discussed we sold Gnabry not that long ago. Pepe looks like a poor mans Iwobi at the moment but I think he was bought because Lille were happy with the longest transfer instalment plan ever. Tierney looks a good buy, Luiz is a waste of money as was Sokratis before him. I still think those who defended Wenger year after failed year need to give Dick more than a season and a handful of matches, I know that doesn’t apply to you because you sussed Wenger years ago. Dick has made mistakes, indifferent buys with good ones but I admit his tactics have not helped us. Once of our biggest problems has been Ozil, why we didn’t dump him I don’t know, Wenger giving him a huge contract has hamstrung the club. As I keep saying we have to get rid of Wengers dross, Mustafi, Xhaka, Mkhitaryan, Ozil all earn far too much and have no sell on value. Until they are long gone we can’t bring in the players we need.

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    Oracle this is not the same old page that you used to be part of. Blaming every thing on Wenger is old hat and still a load of crap, we have moved on mate. You supported the club when Gnabry was here and he was a million miles off the first team had Wenger put him in at the time you would have slaughtered him. No financial deal would have kept him its because he was not playing and at that time he did not deserve to play because he was not good enough! Any way Lets move on from Wenger as you said Emery needs time and I agree but I also agree he is not doing himself any favours. What ever shit he has in terms of players we should have better team performance by now and the tactically the players still seem confused because of the constant change of personnel and tactics. Although we seem to be finally getting it in the last two games.

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    As usual Steve2Bath1 No its not the same old page, no one bothers with it since Wenger got the sack and their argument in favour of the loser became indefensible. You Wengie lovers have got to accept the fact that this fool is responsible for the mess we are now in, no argument. Gnabry was treated appalling by Wenger as were other promising young players who were moved on for fees far less than they were worth and inferior players brought in for vast amounts of money and given huge contracts. Walcott, Ramsey in and out of the side and played out of position, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Gnabry not given chances whilst the likes of Gervinho, Perez, Asano, Elneny, Welbeck were signed. On top of that we have the £70million wasted on Mustafi and Xhaka and the ludicrous contract given to Ozil. As for Dick he is on a hiding to nothing, we will see during the rest of the season if he is up to it. I can remember back in 2013-14 I stated that we had to dump Wenger and go for Klopp, the usual suspects on here started slagging Klopp off and claiming he was issueless and not as good as Wenger. Where are those clowns now I wonder.

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    Well I have bothered and you have come back for some reason and you are still stuck on that old record. Since you have been away we have all moved on and maybe you should but if you cant feel free to stay away again!

    #1788193

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    Well said Stev, Shifty most likely believes everything he reads in the daily mail. Wenger had the option of selling him for 5 million or losing him for nothing. And he’s done very very well. A big mistake to send him to West Brom perhaps but by all accounts he just couldn’t get fit there. Face it some players improve later on. In fairness not many players improved when they left Arsenal under Wenger.

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    As usual mop your undying love for Wenger blinds you to reality. Had Wenger handled Gnabry properly we would now have one of Europe’s best young players on our hands. Sending him to West Brom and Pullis was a ludicrous decision. Not many players improved that left Arsenal under Wenger hey. What about Cole, Fabregas, van Persie, Toure, Sagna, Nasri, Adebayor. They all left Arsenal under Wenger and won League titles and Champions Leagues, seems they all improved to me. Their careers certainly did and so has Gnabry’s

    #1788250

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    Shifty if you think Adebayor, Nasri and Toure improved after leaving Arsenal you are mad.

    Even Fabregas didn’t reach the heights that were expected, he went to Barca and they sold him after a couple of seasons. RVP has one good season and then ended up being pushed out to Turkey. Sagna spent most his time on the bench and Cole was already a top player.

    Your lack of knowledge astounds me, it really does.

    #1788275
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    Oh dear mop, you haven’t got any brighter have you. Of course they improved as players and became more successful they played under better managers for better teams and they all won titles. Wenger has never won anything in Europe and he hadn’t won the PL since 2003-04. All of those players won the PL away from Wenger. I know you tried to convince yourself your idol was going to win the PL three years ago but everyone with a brain knew he wasn’t. Wake up to reality mop, your hero is responsible for the mess we are in. And to suggest players didn’t improve and go onto more success after Wenger is laughable. If Clouseau managed Bury you’d reckon he was going to win the PL

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    Stev and Fatmop – Incase you guys have forgotten,this bozo is nothing but a troublemaker who’s somehow gotten requent access to a computer over the past couple of days.The deluded guy is incapable of a debate and will bang on the same drum.Mind you,he can even use a sensitive topic of Racism against you’ll just to try and get a point across.I’m convinced the fact that his posts are still getting through is the eds are definitely sleeping.There are no more “rules” on this forum.I’ve ignored him ever since and apart from the unintentional glance which will mention Wenger,Mustafi and Xhaka in every post the guy has nothing logical to contribute.The only poster who replies to him is his papa Jeff but again similar minds think alike.I suggest you ignore him,as I have.Maybe he’ll buzz off from the forum then and we can return to debating regardless of the agreements/disagreements.

    #1788381

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    Why are we debating Gnabry, Im glad for him but what has happened is old news.

    #1788392
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    Muffler_1 it is old news but it’s these errors of judgement that have dropped us into the current mess we find ourselves in. I find it ironic that there are people on here quite happy to excuse Wengers years of failure and catastrophic mistakes regarding players but crucify Dick after one season. Dick is hamstrung by being stuck with Mustafi, Xhaka, Mkhitaryan and Ozil. These are players who have cost a fortune in fees and wages, they have contributed nothing and we can’t get rid of them. Yes Dick has made errors in the market and his team selection and tactics have been puzzling to say the least but until he can offload this dross he can’t be judged. At least Wenger is not around to ruin our current crop of young players and they are the future and Dick is using them well unlike Wenger so let’s not slaughter Dick yet. Just remember why we are nowhere near a side capable of challenging for the title and the top4. This not down to Dick it’s down to Wenger, no one else but Wenger.

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