Liverpool fans think Harvey Elliott is ready to mix it with the first team, Chelsea readers debate the value of Mateo Kovacic, while Manchester United supporters wonder why they don’t have the same appeal to players as they once did – all in Your Says of the Day.
Harvey Elliot looks like a better player than Sterling was at his age, I’ve never seen a 16 year old with his decision making or ability on the ball. 10 million sounds like a bargain for him…
Please stop using Lallana as a #6. He can cover the #8s in the cups or something but he’s done absolutely nothing to justify a starting spot. He has no defensive or positional instincts at all. Lovren still unconvincing at LCB but as long as he’s 4th or 5th choice it doesn’t matter. If VDB can step up as VVD’s cover it will be a lot better for us. Is it just me or does Milner seem to be a yard slower?
Looks like Wilson will be the 20-25mil player to cover for the front 3 this season. Can’t say I’ve been too impressed with him so far but over time I’m sure he’ll get better after training with the first team regularly. Hoever definitely ready to cover TAA at RB. Thank goodness Clyne is out again or his path to the first team might have been obstructed. LB is still a concern. Lewis hasn’t really had any impact and while Larouci has looked good going forward, defensively he looks really suspect. Probably will need another season before they’re ready.
Overall I rate this pre season 4/10 but it can’t be helped I guess given the number of key players that haven’t been around. Some decent individual performances here and there but overall it hasn’t really clicked and the consistency hasn’t really been there.
On a side note looks like Elliot can make an impact much sooner than anyone is expecting him to, myself included. I hope Klopp doesn’t delay his progression like he did with Woodburn. If they’re good enough they’re old enough. The word is he’ll be training with the first team so hopefully he’ll get some games in the cups or some cameos and make a big splash. Too early to say but I hope he can make a similar impact to Origi’s last season.
Good post nil and agree on every word. A DoF cant fix all this but its a start and you have to start with this. City appointed very early a DoF with visions and it payed off. But City have better owners than us,they are thinking long term and puts in loads of money TO the club while our owners havent spent one dollar of their own money. Man United fans needs an revolution and the club needs an revolution inside.
I agree with Sympathy that AWB, James along with the proposed signings of Maguire, Fernandes and Dybala would represent a great window. Ok as it looks Valancia, Herrera and Lukaku seem to be the only outs, however I don’t really give a monkeys about the outs. Ideally we’d trim the wage bill but if not I’m happy for Ed to worry about that.
Four of the actual/proposed signings are first team improvements, what’s not to like? Theoretical line-up of DDG, AWB, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, Pogba, McTominay (pick of the bunch), Dyabla, Fernandes, Martial, Rashford is starting to look like a good first 11. Not title winning but a definite improvement on last season.
Reckon it’ll be Maguire and one of either Dybala or Fernandes. Personally i think we need all three. Dybala to play on the right of a front three with Fernandes in behind and two holding in midfield. Makes sense that it’ll be Maguire and Dybala as that will equate to a net spend of around £150M.
With the latest comments from Rodgers we should walk away from the Maguire deal. Either there valuation is ridiculously high or we’re completely low balling it. Either way it’s time to leave it behind. But part of me thinks this helps Ed’s narrative. We tried but failed to add to the squad due to other clubs unreasonableness. Totally ignoring the fact there are plenty of other centre backs out there who we could sign. Shambolic dealings by Woodward and Judge.
Our defense is worrying that we took 3 goals from Salzburg. I only watched the first 20 min though when it was still 0-0. I will watch the highlight tonight. First twenty minutes Salzburg were the better team. Their high pressing clearly made life difficult for Jorginho and Kovacic. I think we really need Kanté to replace one of Jorginho or Kovacic. We need his energy. Not sure though whether he will be ready as he hasn’t played any pre-season match until now.
Different Kovacic under Frank than what we saw under Sarri? Not surprised. So many on here chose to write him off as a waste of 40.3 million. Short memories on his prior form, especially in the World Cup.
Kovacic did nothing of any significance I would rather have Barkley or RLC playing further back once everyone is fit. Kovacic is in the same class as Drinkwater and Bakayoko maybe he or they will change for the better. But the biggest problem at the moment is the defence with only the injured Rudiger offering any hope. Christiansen, Zouma and especially Luis have been very poor. The rest of the team looks handy enough.
Blueowner I beg to differ regarding your assertion about Kovacic, in this particular game with teams pressing high against us I prefer Jorginho and Kovacic to Kante any combination because both can pass ball under pressure but against counter attacking teams kante comes in because of his energy to close down.
Kovacic is one of our best players this preseason.
He will rotate with kante and jorginho based on oppositions.
A good performance away against a top Austrian club, yes there are worries about the defence but Lampard must get it right quickly. I disagree about Kovacic his done nothing to warrant a change of heart for now and seeing we can’t get rid of some players we could have rather used them as backups then spend all that money on Kovacic. They could also improve with the right support.
Kante and Jorginho are the 2 obvious starters for those specialised positions. I don’t like Drinkwater, Kovacic or Bakayoko from what I seen, when necessary Luiz could be drafted into that area at least his safer there.