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This EU debate is insane. The politicians and the media, both of whom don’t really have the slightest clue, have decided to simplify and dumb-down this highly complex question into two simple choices: the economy, or immigration. The sad fact is, neither of these crucial issues are under any form of control whatsoever. The economy is in terminal decline and we owe trillions of pounds that we have no hope of ever repaying, and more seriously, no one has a realistic or slightest clue as to how many immigrants are coming in.
I sincerely hope the UK leaves the EU. Our economy is in shit-street, but at least it would give us a last chance to take control of our own mess. The other issue is a bit trickier. For years now we have allowed hundreds of thousands of immigrants to flood into our country. We house them, feed them, look after their health, pay for their kids, give them pocket money and offer them a golden opportunity to integrate into British society.
However, many of them are happy to just bleed our social welfare dry and spend most of their time every day looking east with their heads face-down in the shag-pile and sticking their arses up to the west. These people are a massive burden on what’s left our country’s finances and are systematically undermining our system. The sad thing is, no one speaks up about it and this must change.
It’s time to stand up and defend what’s left of our country’s hard-fought values before it’s too late. Vote OUT!
Spot on Harry, you’ve summed up our season perfectly and highlighted where it went wrong. I was very disappointed that we got knocked out of the cup in the replay at home, but I thought that we would make up for it and do better in the run in. Unfortunately it wasn’t to be, but there is a lot of room for optimism next season.
Antonio got my vote for Hammer of the year. He’s been great, even when forced to play out of position. He’s strong, up for it, unpredictable, and can take a throw-in that’s almost as effective as a corner. I hope we can keep Oxford but it’s now been rumoured that Mourinho is interested in signing him.
Like you, I also miss the banter we enjoyed on the old page. But to get some good banter going you need posters with different views who are partial a subtle wind up like One Mac or Hattrick, and where’s Katmad, Ironic and Disco when you need them? I hope that they all come back soon and help kick-start this site before it’s too late. It’s high time Teamtalk did the right thing and improve this new site so it resembles the old one as close as possible. Here’s hoping.
Good post Harry. If this was our old Teamtalk page you would have got lots of responses by now. Katmad, One Mac, Ironic, Disco, Hattrick, etc would all be actively participating in their own entertaining way. Unfortunately the buggers are still nowhere to be seen, but I’m sure they are still out there and occasionally looking in.
I read recently that they are planning to revamp this site and will attempt to include as much of the old format as possible. Let’s hope that Teamtalk get it right this time and most of our old posters who made this site worth visiting return. If not, this page is dead.
Blair and Bush have a lot to answer for. Their idiotic Hollywood style gung-ho actions in hot and dusty deserts are the root cause of this enormous immigration catastrophe. They should be tried for war crimes. The EU has shown itself to be absolutely powerless and totally inept at controlling, let alone stopping the constant influx of thousands upon thousands of anyone under the sun who are queuing up and clamoring for a piece of our hard earned way of life that ironically for their religious reasons these people have no respect for.
Meanwhile we are expected to put up with this inept pathetic IN or OUT debate with a resigned acceptance that political correctness is paramount and must be respected by everybody on both sides of the argument. As I see it, there is nothing correct about ’political correctness’. It only serves to white-wash and dumb-down important truths that need to be said. It’s time to stop beating around the bush call a spade a spade.
Here’s a true story:
My father actively fought in the Remagen campaign in Belgium in WW2. He was seriously hit by shrapnel from a bomb blast and was eventually sent home, but our family home in Wapping had been flattened by a doodle-bug bomb. He was eventually reunited with what was left of his family and was lucky enough to get an Alms house in Whitechapel. I lived there for the first ten years of my life.
I went back to visit the area only a few months ago and was profoundly taken aback by the radical changes. The only places I recognised were the London Hospital and The Blind Beggar pub. The shops, signs, dress code, language etc is now completely foreign. The place has been effectively taken over and transformed into an area where the first language is now predominantly Urdu. My wife and I popped into the pub for a drink and spoke to a few people about the changes. We were told that it’s no longer advisable for us to leave the pub and walk along the market holding hands as it is offensive to sharia law and we risk being stopped and sternly warned.
Meanwhile these hapless politicians are sitting on their arses and waffling politically correct sound-bites to the media and doing absolutely nothing whatsoever to control this frightening cancer growing within. It really makes me wonder why my dad bothered to risk his life to defend this country.
PS. On a happier note: They finally managed to remove the last micro-slither of shrapnel from my dad’s eye 30 years after the war.
Another thing that depresses me about this EU debate is the way the ‘stay in’ campaigners have the blind audacity to ignore or defend this out of control immigration disaster. It makes me sick. Anybody with eyes who lives in any town or city in this country must have surely noticed an alarming increase in immigrants, especially young blokes from Middle Eastern and North African countries.
These people come from countries that have completely alien views to us, so much so, many have little or no respect for western culture or democratic values whatsoever. They have little interest in integrating in our society and given the nature of the beast it’s fair to assume that a good few of them could be sympathetic towards that unmentionable abhorrent heathen organization that openly wants to wipe us all off of the face on the earth.
The EU is a corrupt lame duck organization. It has no agenda whatsoever to protect and maintain the sovereignty of any individual country. They encourage an open door policy to let anyone and his family move in and claim benefits that were meant for the people in need who have paid into the system all their lives for right to claim them. Handing it out willy-nilly to this lot is nothing short of criminal!
And to think our once great country managed to keep Hitler out. Churchill must be rolling in his grave. God help us.
I think the politician who has consistently talked most sense so far in this EU debate is Boris Johnson. I know that Boris is regarded by some as nothing more than an entertaining distraction that sometimes gets his arse stuck on a high-wire with his legs dangling, but I think his honest views on the EU have been quite astute, insightful and spot on. At least he’s got the balls to publicly criticise Cameron for his blatant scaremongering of the electorate with empty veiled threats of how worse off we’ll all become if we don’t vote to stay in.
Perhaps I’m biased because Boris played a pivotal role in helping to secure the magnificent Olympic Stadium for West Ham, but I think if he was allowed more air-time by our bent media, it could seriously ‘up-the-anti’. Then Cameron and the rest of his scaremongering “in crowd”, could find themselves with more of a fight on their hands. But of course, the BBC, ITV & Sky etc ain’t gonna let it happen.
Yep, the future is murder.
Why are so many politicians, big business and media all desperately trying to scare the public shitless into voting for staying in? The EU is nothing but an over-bloated bureaucratic ineffective waste of resources.
Chaos reigns in Brussels and Strasburg on a daily basis and it takes them years to agree on anything, even the most trivial matters. There are so many problems to deal with now, they simply can’t cope and it’s in danger of unraveling. It was always completely insane to believe that you could somehow glue so many diverse countries together with vastly different economies just by simply introducing a single currency.
The politicians keep telling us that GB is the fifth richest nation on earth. If that’s the case, how come we have accumulated such an obscene national debt? It’s currently running well into trillions of pounds and is growing larger by the day! So why are all these knobs so desperate to keep is in?
I think it’s because they secretly realize that our once green and pleasant land is already on a steady slide down the crapper and if we stay in the EU they always have someone else to blame.
So, in or out? My heart says get the hell out of that insane madhouse ASAP. That said, I don’t think our government or opposition are anywhere near competent or trustworthy enough to do much better. Sadly either way, at least for the time being, the future is murder.
I think that Jose Mourinho managing Man Utd is a very exciting prospect indeed and it’s good that he’s back in the Premier League. I don’t particularly like the odious egomaniac, but his appointment is just what you need right now.
He will spend a fortune on a new bunch of established high-paid mercenaries and transform your team beyond recognition. The average players’ age in the team will significantly increase and most youngsters will be forced to take a backseat. (I’m particularly pleased about this as it’s been strongly rumored of late that Dr Death’s scouts were seriously eying up our Reece Oxford as a proper long-term replacement for Rio). Now that Mourinho is in the hot-seat there’s probably less chance of that happening.
I’m really intrigued to see how it all pans out next season. Will he be a success, or will it go pear-shaped? Probably both, who knows, but one thing’s for sure, like him or loath him, Jose is pure theatre and I’m looking forward to his future touchline bust-ups with Wenger and Pep etc… Enjoy the ride.
The politicians have been busy arguing their preference one way or the other but neither side impresses me, and quite frankly I’m sick of it. The more they say, the more I come to realise that they have completely lost sight of the ball. The question of whether we should stay in or get out of the EU has become insanely confused and over-complicated. It shouldn’t be so because it’s really quite straightforward. There is just one simple basic question you need to answer, and it’s this:- Who in their right mind is happy to keep their front door wide open and let further hoards of complete strangers come into their living room, put their feet up, watch TV and help themselves to the contents of the fridge?
It’s a no-brainer for me, but sadly this extremely farcical and biased debate is bound to be ratcheted up right until the last minute to help secure an inevitable “yes” vote. Meanwhile our country’s values will continue to erode and slowly slide down the crapper simply because whoever you vote for in this green and pleasant land, you can always rely on one thing: One incompetent government after another will always get in and continue to overcomplicate everything and inevitably cock it all up.
Homer. You can’t be serious. Do you really believe it’s best that your club doesn’t win the FA Cup today? How on earth have you come to that daft conclusion? It’s complete bollocks. Surely you can dream up a more sensible and less painful method to part company with Dr Death. Sometimes it really pays to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
Besides, spare a thought for us 60,000 Hammers fans who are hoping that Man Utd win the cup today so that we can look forward to European football next season in our brand new stadium.
This may sound a bit selfish, but like most Hammers fans I’m hoping that Man Utd win the cup on Saturday so that West Ham qualify for Europe. However, taking into account your somewhat fluctuating form this season I’m not overconfident that this will happen. Pardew would have done his homework and Crystal Palace will be well up for the game, whereas heaven knows if Brigadier No-idea and Private Ryan can conjure up the necessary passion and expertise to finally give the red army something tangible to cheer about. That remains to be seen.
I’m actually surprised that many on here appear so indifferent about it all. Many seem to prefer that Dr Death was already gone and that odious flawed Portuguese egomaniac was brought in to raise you back up into the football elite. Considering what the bloke ended up doing to Chelsea, I find that slightly ironic really. But good luck tomorrow, and let’s hope that however much time the Dying Dutchman has left in Manchester, he doesn’t balls it up at Wembley tomorrow, for all our sakes.
Yesterday’s bomb scare followed by a mass evacuation and subsequent postponement of the match has been discussed to death in the media ever since. But everyone appears to have overlooked a most important point.
Postponing any match on the final day of the season is wrong. Every club is expected to play the final game at the same time in order to avoid the possibility of presenting an unfair advantage to any club still in contention for some form of glory.
My point is, Man Utd now know they can no longer qualify for the Champions League so they are now free to field a second-string team against Bournemouth tomorrow night and keep their first team fresh for the FA Cup Final.
Like it or not, this bomb scare has succeeded in giving an unfair advantage to Man Utd and its only fair that the club should be held accountable.
That said, as a Hammers fan, I couldn’t give a monkey’s about all that bollocks and shall be cheering you on at Wembley. I sincerely hope you can win the cup! After that though, you’re back you’re on your own. It’s only fair.
Best of luck,
I do hope G&S invest in a top striker. If we had one out there this afternoon we would have walked that game and now be looking forward to European football. All we have left to hope for now is that Man Utd can win the FA Cup, which is by no means a foregone conclusion. What a disappointing anti-climax to such a promising season.
Changes to this current format are essential if Teamtalk is to thrive anything like it used to. Your list of suggestions for improvement is most welcome, but the main focus should be on how to win back all those posters who have deserted in hoards.
Teamtalk used to be the best football chat site for one simple reason: We had a single thread for every club, and the possibility to comment on any post with the latest reply remaining visible directly underneath. This gave the entire page the necessary manageable overview of what’s going on, and most importantly, it was user friendly.
There are so many separate threads listed on a clubs page now with many of them tackling the same topic. Most of these threads get very few responses and they only serve to diffuse the thrust of any discussion and are a tiresome waste of effort.
Club affiliation either by badge or club name next to the poster’s name should be mandatory. This helps avoid unnecessary misunderstandings between posters of different persuasions.
If you are going to re-introduce ‘a like button’ then you should also have a ‘dislike’ button. People are free to agree or disagree as they please. It’s only fair.
What I am basically saying is this: The closer you can get us back to the previous Teamtalk format, the more chance we have of some of the old posters turning up on here again. We certainly need them to.
Quite right Hursty. Tuesday night will be so special and I hope we can conjure up a fitting and happy ending. To do that, we need to beat Man Utd. We bloody well owe them that. Besides, after that shocking debacle yesterday we need to bounce back and show everybody what we can do. Let’s hope we can. Antonio is my Hammer of the year. He is an immense player for us and has worked his arse off. I really hope Slav plays him to his natural strengths on Tuesday evening. If he does and the rest of the boys are up for it, we have more than a decent chance.
Here’s hoping we can leave the Boleyn singing bubbles. COYI.
That was so disappointing. Our defence just wasn’t at the races today and necessary substitutions weren’t made. Tompkins should have come on so that Antonio could be free play as an outright attacker. Collins would have been handy at the back too. No one fed Carroll all afternoon and Sakho came on far too late. It’s such a pity. I hope Slaven gets it right on Tuesday otherwise any hopes of Europe could well and truly be in the balance.
T. Sorry mate, but I fail to see what you are getting at. Those few fans who unnecessarily repeated their protest got their timing hopelessly wrong and their second protest fell flatter than a Donald Trump rally in Kazakhstan. As the Hulk rightly mentioned, the majority of fans, i.e. the remaining 59,500+, were too busy watching the game and hoping for a win. That’s a fact. If fans have a gripe and they want to protest about something then fine, but they should at least think it through and plan accordingly if they want to make any kind of significant impact at all, otherwise it’s simply bollocks and bound to turn out tits-up. Which it did.
Al. Nice to see you. What a breath of fresh air!
Be lucky, Erik.
T. I know why that small minority of fans protested, but I really do think that the second demonstration was totally unnecessary and embarrassing, especially given the circumstances. Let’s be honest, the fact that Arsenal were one up at the time did not help their cause. It went off like a damp squib! Your last sentence is putting words into my mouth, but yes of course it reasonable to assume that a few others would have held up a piece of A4 had Arsenal not been in front at the time.
Hulk. Whatever the precise demography and allegiance of the supporters that were in the stadium no one knows. The only fact is this: The capacity of the Emerates is 60,432. The crowd for the Norwich game was 59,989. That means there was a total of 443 empty seats. You can make of that what you will.
Jeff. Thanks for your latest insult. It only serves to substantiate my point in paragraph three of my previous post. Incidentally Jeff, I notice you spell your name with two F’s. Coincidentally there’s also two L’s in bollocks. Funny that.
Alfie. I’m flattered my post stuck in your mind but it was only an honest observation and no demands provocative or otherwise were made as implied by CM. I just made an honest point and people are free to interpret it any way they wish, but to label me as a trolling wind-up merchant is complete bollocks.
CM. The fact that I did not come onto your site to acknowledge your cup repay victory is irrelevant. For the record, I didn’t come on to comment or moan about your extremely good fortune in the first game either. I must admit though, I did also come onto your page a while back to voice my opinion of your manager’s extraordinary passiveness on the bench and described him as Dr Death. At the time it seemed appropriate because I noticed he just sat there stoney-faced and wide-eyed, and his arse never left the bench for the entire 90 minutes. Mind you, I did notice that most of you lot were heavily criticizing and insulting him for everything else under the sun left right and center. The funny thing is, I came on this page to voice a simple honest opinion in support of Arsne Wenger and got a lots of flak for it. How ironic is that!
The real issue here is this: Football fans in general are naturally territorial and protective of their own club. They can easily get oversensitive and defensive when a fan from another club pops in to make a valid point. If a simple sentence is not phrased properly it can easily provoke all kinds of adverse knee-jerk reaction, abuse and even wild unsubstantiated accusations. And that is precisely what has happened here. But never mind, I can take it. That’s cricket.
Look forward to welcoming you to our final game at Upton Park.
CM. You are wrong and just trying to mix the pudding. I made no such demands. It’s utter bollocks. I merely noted the fact that none of the numerous comments on the thread contained any form of acknowledgment whatsoever of the performance of the opposition. It was a valid point. Try reading it again.