Arsenal v Burnley

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    The Oracle
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    He really is a nutter. I thought the Forum Fool was mentally disturbed but this twat is in another league

    #2045953

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    I seem to remember Arteta liking it when in a game had more than 40 crosses despite having just 1 or nobody in the penalty area. I dont distinguish between high or low you still need players in the box.

    Again you have not answered why Arteta in 5 tries against Burnley has not been able change the outcome. By your own words he should be able to. 2 Goals in 5 games is not only down to a striker problem. Not when the same ones under Emery we did more than that in 1 game. Again 1 game it can happen agree, 5 games its not normal so the excuse its a one off does not hold water.

    I have not said that Arteta could not take us higher from being placed at the bottom so dont put me in that category. I said at the start we will end up between 6-8 place the 3 losses at the start did not change that nor does the Burnley game.

    As for the loans they make sense except for AMN because that one could have waited until later in January given how short we were there. To rely on Sambi and Mr Red was dangerous and I was right when Xhaka got sent off in first game since AMN left. Not saying AMN is first class but he has more experience than Sambi and could have given us more options. Arteta did the same chance decision by not signing cover for Tierney last season so we ended up with Xhaka there .

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    The Oracle
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    Muffler, look at the FA Cup match at Forest. Arteta that ‘good manager with clear tactical nouse’ couldn’t cope with a guy called Steve Cooper. Sideways, backwards, sideways backwards, give it away. We created nothing in the game because ball movement was too slow and he couldn’t come up with a way of getting Saka and Martinelli into the game. His tactic if you can call it that didn’t work. So did he change anything? Of course not, he didn’t know what to do.

    So we find today he’s in America discussing what happens next with Stan, shows you he’s the senior man when it comes to recruitment.

    I’m also still waiting for the FF to retract his blatant BULLSHIT lie regarding points in a calendar year.

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    Andy Pandy- no point responding to you any more as you’re beyond help. If, “you fucking moron” ( your words not mine) are so convinced I am Oracle, write to the editors to complain, see how far that gets you. You really are intellectually challenged aren’t you. If I pull you up on Arteta’s one “tactic”- ie play it sideways and backwards ad nauseam, all you can do is label me as Oracle or Shifty. Not the sharpest tool in the box are you. Anyway, do come back with your foul mouthed, uneducated, pathetic posts, you “coach”, I won’t bother with you any more, you’re beneath contempt.

    TSO, you used to call me Oracle as well whenever I disagreed with you or if I’m honest, I lambasted you as well. I have exchanged some posts with you as well, but then have given up as I think we will never be on the same page. However, you will note that I have a completely different style of posting to Oracle! if you can’t see that I also give up.

    #2046188

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    So are we signing anybody? I bet you that half headed Arteta will bring up an old Wenger saying… ‘we don’t want to hinder the progress of Xhaka’ therefore we do not want to sign a midfielder. You wouldn’t be one bit surprised though.

    #2046200
    The Oracle
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    Bsm, this is text book Wenger. Feed the media lots of bull about who he’s after, make sure it’s someone we can’t get and wind the window down. Then on Feb 1st or 2nd whenever it is come out with “Oh we tried, we just couldn’t make it happen” and then follow that up with your Wenger saying “we didn’t want to hinder Xhaka’s development”. What a shambles

    #2046211

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    Do not forget the other old one liner ‘we want to sign players better than we already have’ errr you mean half the team, and we cannot find better than them? Gumaires been reported to sign for Newcastle, why are we not all over this one?

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    Looks like Tomi is out for a while, so who will play there? Cedric is hopeless and even though Chambers is very average, he would do better in that position. As for a new central midfielder or striker, who are we after as the press all suggest different players. Remember several years ago, Wenger was after a striker all summer including Higuain and then others including even Rooney and we then ended up with Ozil!

    #2046214

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    Bsm and Oracle in my view If we cant the targeted players we are after for whatever reason we should not spend it on second rate which is what normally do.

    As to the reasons for not getting the targets I dont know and i dont know who we want tbh.

    Arteta seem happy with Xhaka and Partey. Up front its Laca and Nketia because Auba i dont us playing anymore since he seems to be frozen out of everything. But Im sure there are some here who is happy with that. Im not but i honestly have stopped caring what Edu and Arteta are up to it just leads down one path anyway

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    You guys will make anything up to feed the agenda won’t you.It’s a fact that Arsenal have tried for Arthur this window,Probably still are.We also have been linked with other midfielders whether they’re permanent transfers or not.
    My point – Arteta certainly dosen’t think that Partey and Xhaka are enough.

    There are reports that Arthur might not join and Bruno might join Newcastle.As this club was beaten to the transfer of Buendia by a club like Aston Villa.Yet again we are going to get beaten to a club that is scrapping in the relegation zone.Yes,they might have a good financial backing but still.

    But no.Absolutely.Arteta is only at fault here.Edu who is our technical director and responsible for actually getting the players in is not to blame at all.
    One can only laugh now.

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    Muffler- we don’t ever do what we should do to improve the team to its best potential and that has gone on for decades. Wenger was the prime example, buying more and more central midfielders when our prime need was for either a striker, central defender or goalkeeper at any particular time. Arteta thinks Xhaka is “key” as he said at one press conference and even though the player has said he’ll “never change” the way he plays, that seems to have been accepted by Arteta, so he condones his permanent ill-discipline, let alone his lack of speed of thought and movement. We desperately need another central midfielder and striker as a minimum this month and Arteta and Edu have been distracted by the Juventus bound Serbian, who was never coming to us- did he ever express an interest? Calvert-Lewin and Wijnaldum have been suggested, one coming back from injury and the other injured- God help us. With the amount he has spent in over two years, Arteta has to get at least 6th position come May, as if not, the Kroenkes would be fully justified in sacking him

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    I know TSO Im just saying i dont care about rumours i care about results.

    As for Arthur he has been injury prone at Juve so sorry not jumping over joy for a possible Kallstrom/Suarez signing. Even If when he plays he is better than them but If he is injured he is just as useless even if its a loan.

    Im confused is Arteta not happy with Partey and Xhaka?

    Did I not mention both Edu and Arteta? Or was it not directed at me?

    #2046314

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    Jeff, agree but If the ones we want are not available i rather see us not buy.

    As for the serb well he was doing what Locatelli did to get to Juve. Edu fooled again. Would be fun though If Juve gets sent to Serie B again for doing illegal things.

    Calvert aint happening in Jan, Wijnaldium just another Kallstrom/Suarez thing that I would not put past them not doing. Isak not happening either its just the normal BS because we dont have single striker.

    Laca is not playing as a striker he is to deep down, Nketia is hardly playing not that it would improve us and Auba is under the Ozil treatment. Well done Arteta.

    #2046316
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    Jeff, I can’t see us getting 6th, I hope I’m wrong but I’m getting more and more concerned about it. Fourth really should have been a doddle at one stage, then we blew it by losing to both Man Utd and Everton after taking the lead. Does anyone think we are going to The Spuds and winning so that drops us down a place. The side that worries me is Wolves, now there is a well organised side. We may have Mr A Clown telling us that Arteta is a ‘good manager with clear tactical nous’ but those of us who live in the real world know he’s neither. Bruno Lage however is definitely tactically aware. Wolves have one of the most organised defences in the PL and they take some beating. They are our next game and if we lose there we are firmly in 8th. If there are no quality additions I think 8th is a more likely finish for Arsenal. It’s not good enough.

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    Muff – I’m sorry I didn’t see you mention Edu but yes you did.However I did read the line that Arteta is Happy with Xhaka and Partey and Hence reacted on that.
    But I can assure you that’s not the case or cleary we wouldn’t be in for another Midfielder(s).All I’m saying is getting these players in is not Arteta’s job,It’s Edu’s and he keeps dissapointing time and again but the fact that he is still in the job proves that this is the standards the owners are okay with.

    I have and will always say Recruitment has been the biggest problem at this club.Yes,Arteta and edu both screwed up in the transfer market last season and overpaid for certain players but I wonder is there even any acknowledgement to it.
    No manager can ever be judged without a good enough squad.

    #2046374
    The Oracle
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    Anyone discovered that year where Arteta accrued the 2nd most points yet? I’m still waiting to discover when it was. Or is it BULLSHIT

    #2046398

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    Well he is happy with them I did not say he did not want more bodies as he clearly does not rate the ones out on loan. He had to throw Sambi in the deep end which he did not want. But it is by his own doing yes Edu should bring in players but until then he has to to make do with what he has. Sending out AMN that early in the window knowing full well he would only be left with Sambi and Mr Liabillity was his own fault. He took a gamble and for the second Jan in a row it backfired.

    Thinking Edu would bring in Arthur early when Juve has been pretty clear they wont let him leave without a replacement. Nothing Edu can do about that as Juve has the ball unless they had another target as plan b which it does not like they have. As for Arthur I maintain he has not been a hit there since he came. He has hardly played lately due to injuries and not being selected or on the bench. Thats our main target why?

    Its the Arsenal way and it was done like this under Wenger as well but then they went for a desperate trolley dash at the end. Which I hope they wont do now.

    #2046409
    The Oracle
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    Muffler, when Edu had Xhaka out of the door and on his way to Roma Arteta overruled him as Xhaka is his player, and he will always pick him first above others. Arteta also overruled Edu regarding Tomiyasu, Edu had agreed to sign Emerson Royal but Arteta said no and HE signed Tomiyasu. That should be enough to tell you who is in charge of transfer policy and recruitment. If any further evidence is required then the fact that it’s Arteta not Edu who has flown to America to discuss Abameyang’s future and possible future transfer targets. Edu’s role was downgraded last year whist Arteta was given over all control. Forget Edu, it’s Arteta who pulls the strings.

    #2046414

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    Well someone agreed a 18 month loan covering his salary with a buy option of 40m€ that was overiden by the board for Arthur.

    Basiclly what Juve wanted luckilly there people with a brain that see it as a bad deal.

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    Oracle- we may get at least sixth, I never imagined we would be in the top 4, although with the players having to adjust to new managers at Spurs and Utd half-way through the season, there was a heaven sent opportunity to do so. Although I am not a Moyes fan, he would get us in the top 6 I am sure, as Conte certainly would. Look what he’s done with that rabble at Spurs, two good players, yet they have fight and determination until the last minute ( e.g. Leicester). He’s also somehow made good players out of ordinary ones and United must be kicking themselves for missing out on him. I’m not saying he is what we need as we all know that within 18 months he’ll have a row with someone, perhaps the tea lady, and leave. What is disturbing about Arteta is that although he’s been here over two years there is not a hint of any permanent improvement., but good play for about three or four games. We can all bleat about injuries, AFCON, young players needing time etc, but what is the short, medium and long-term planning of the club in terms of recruitment and retention, balance of the squad, playing style and tactics, substitutions and in- game management? Nothing. Arteta and Edu are completely out of their depth and nearly £250m has been spent in over two years for what- potential? Klopp has already wooed Saka and Martinelli and no doubt ESR is on the top clubs’ radar as well. If we are not competitive for nine months of any season pretty soon, these young players will not stick around waiting for Lego Man’s “process” to unfold in about 10 years time.

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