Arsenal without sanchez is nothing.

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    phemlabush2
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    Fellow gunners, please let’s be happy that we are not out of the top six on the league table. To be honest, without Sanchez,we are just a team like Southampton and Everton. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    which is the biggest load of crap! not a great article at all and we are not a one man team …

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    Sanchez is immense, but look at Giroud stats and compare with Sanchez. Had Giroud (499)played same amount of minutes as Sanchez (1800), upgraded stats Giroud could statistically have 25 goals by now and 11 assists. Play them together as much as possible with Ozil providing the ammunition. Plenty backup in Walcott, Ox, Welbeck, Iwoby to mix it up.
    Not playing down Sanchez here, his influence on games is far beyond his goal tally.

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    AndyC
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    Elfaro- that is all ifs and buts. Did you not watch girlish last season? He went 17 games with out scoring! 17 GAMES!!! A striker going that long without a goal is absolutely criminal, even worse when you take the amount we created last season as well!
    We have looked quite pedestrian with giroud leading the line. Yes we have won and yes he is going through his yearly purple patch but he was scoring from the bench before injuries yet again hit us hard. Happy for him to be starting at mo but as soon as players are back and fit again he needs to go back to the bench, put Sanchez back up top and play the same fast paced footy we did for the first 2 or 3 months.
    I love giroud, but he is by no means the answer for us he is the option to go too when you need that something different to the norm. Much like fellaini is for Utd these days, great impact players the pair of them. Cue the ‘fellanin is shot giroud is better’ remarks. Trust me I know this but both are better as impact subs than starters.

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    Al The Gooner
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    Sanchez has said he’s happy at Arsenal, that he feels like an important member of the team (Alexis – you’re the most important member mate!) and that he wants to bring us the PL and CL.

    Unfortunately, I think that could be the very reason he’ll leave – not ‘cos of money but because unless we go on a great run now (and nothing I’ve seen in the last two or three months suggests we’re capable of that), then that’s it for another season.

    If Wenger does re-sign, then it’s just gonna be rinse and repeat for the foreseeable future.

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    Al The Gooner
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    Hulk, completely with you on Giroud. Our best football was with the quartet of Sanchez, Oz, Theo and Iwobi. Even now, I’d much rather see Welbeck instead of Giroud. With Danny, we can go back to that style, with all four front men interchanging – Giroud just isn’t mobile enough.

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    the specialone
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    This thread and the criticism of Giroud by certain posters after all that he’s done this season proves that Giroud is by far the most under appreciated player to have ever played for the club.

    They say Giroud should not be in the first team, yet fail to completely ignore the fact we’ll get nowhere else with others simply because we don’t have a world class striker.
    Wenger tried sanchez there, who failed against bigger teams so that can go out of the window.Welbeck is too injury prone and let’s be honest not world class.So that unfortunately does leave only us with giroud.Listen,if you want to blame anyone blame wenger for still not signing someone good enough.But until then and especially after recent performances Giroud has every right to get the starting nod ahead of everyone else.
    I too would like a striker with pace upfront and someone who could run in beyond, but there simple cannot be a case for Giroud to be dropped atleast at this moment of time especially after the failed experiments yet again this season!

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    AndyC
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    Not sure where he has been criticised. He is under appreciated at all, he loved at this club, all fans love giroud but not all are blind to his limitations. Is he good enough to lead the line fo a full season? well last season confirms he isnt, so NO. Is he really the type of striker we need in our system? No, he lacks mobility and ability to open up a defence like Sanchez can.
    Do we look better with Sanchez up top? yes most certainly. Not all players can perfrom against every club in every game. Whilst sanchez may have failed in 1 or 2 games playing as a lone front man. Giroud has had far more worse games and we as a team have looked worse.
    Giroud went 17 games without a goal last season, 17 games in row with no goal. yet you call Sanchez a failed experiment??? sure by that logic Giroud is a failed experiment??

    Giroud is going through his purple patch at the moment and it has come at a good time given the injuries throughout the midfield, but i will still have him playing from the bench. Giroud problem is and always will be motivation. He gets comfortable too quickly with starting in the team, same goes for wally, Ramsey, and Ox. So to have him play from the bench against Burnley wouldnt be a bad thing, Burnley at home.

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    the specialone
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    The hulk – If you really want to go down that path so be it.You say last season proved Giroud is not good enough to make us win the title, well I think the biggest proof of them all last season was that we will never win the title under wenger again.

    You guys keep harping on about Giroud going 17 games without a goal without even mentioning that so many big stars have goal droughts too.And not to mention he didn’t even start most of those games.But honestly this is besides the point, it’s not like I’m trying to make a case for Giroud being good enough to make us win the league.What I’m making the case for is that our other players his replacement are not good enough too.I personally think you are absolutely blind to the fact sanchez hasn’t been performing in that position.If goals or some explosive moments against the likes of so called smaller teams really gives you that much pleasure, then that’s your satisfaction.Simple fact is he hasn’t performed in many games,big games especially.He’s gotten many goals from a wing position of his 14 goal PL tally, and if anything and like many other experts agree he is more influential from a wing position.

    In a nutshell, you can’t make a case to want sanchez or welbeck get in ahead of giroud(when it’s been proved so clearly that we have not exactly succeeded with them where our title charge is concerned).It’s not one or two games mate, it’s many games and I repeat big games.Sanchez upfront,We all love to see the style but in the long run it’s not really effective is it.I mean why has wenger shifted back to playing giroud upfront and Sanchez outwide.Because as stubborn as he is, he’s realized that we were getting nowhere with Alexis upfront and he couldn’t really set a base on that.

    Again,I myself don’t think Giroud is not good enough,but I also think the other players are not.Hence,on current form Giroud has no reason to be dropped!

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    AndyC
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    name me another top striker that has gone 17 games without scoring whilst starting every week in a team that creates so many chances?

    You are now making stuff up, i never said we couldnt win the title with him i said he wasnt good enough to lead the line. There is a difference, you need players in the squad like giroud to win the league. He is the best option b striker in the prem imo. Us not winning the league under wenger is a completely different debate to be had all together. However it is one i 100% agree with.

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    TSO- please give it a rest- you’re just repeating yourself time and time again on Giroud. Just accept that the majority of posters on here do not think that he’s the answer to leading the line. Our attack lacks shape and mobility and Sanchez is the right person to go there, not Giroud. He has been here long enough and with him leading the attack we are very predictable. Yes he is good in both boxes, but we are so pedestrian with him there. I also do not want to see Walcott back after yet another extended break as he passes 11 seasons with us. We’re still waiting to see him offer much more than four or five games a season and that just is not good enough.There has been a lot of chat recently on Ozil and his laziness, especially against any big team here or in Europe. With Walcott in the starting eleven, this is akin to starting with 9 men in such matches.Ox has far more to offer the whole team than Theo and if not him, Welbeck should be in for Walcott as Iwobi is starting to come good again.

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    the specialone
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    Jeff – What is it with you people.Really,If you want to have a proper debate please back up your argument.All you revert to me is that I keep repeating myself.

    Please understand this well,I’m not making a case for Giroud being good enough to make us win the title.However,I’m also Opposing your views of having sanchez play there.Be honest with yourself,Like you as much as I like our attack to be more mobile and explosive as possible(and I acknowledge it can’t be with giroud),Alexis over there hasn’t worked.

    Peroforming against smaller teams, and going missing against bigger teams in games that matter much more is more indicative of the point I’m making.How many more chances can we give people,we tried it with walcott it didn’t work in the long run.We tried it with sanchez and it hasn’t worked which is the reason wenger reverted to putting girooud back there.

    That’s my opinions as you have yours.All I’m saying is if you guys keep harping on about using sanchez(who’s not even a natural centre forward) in that position,atleast back up your argument.Judge each and every game this season and then come back to me.

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    The Oracle
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    Giroud is nowhere near good enough for a side who should be fighting for the title, he never has been and in my opinion should never have been bought when there were better options out there. We are a side who are best when pacy, fluid and flexible. We aren’t any of those when he plays. But it has to be said he has got us out of so much trouble this year, he has consistently scored goals and his record against time on the pitch is terrific. He is our Plan B when we have never had one in the past. I don’t want to see him as a first choice players but I’m glad he’s with us at the moment, we need him.

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    Oracle, well said.

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