Chambers Sold to Villa

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    Fatmop every other manager picks Xhaka because the rest is worse at least in our club. That does not make him the best it just makes him just above the scraps. Had he been at City, Pool, Madrid, Juve or Chelsea he would not start then again they probably would not touch him with a ten foot pole. Before you go and say that City did want him well who was there at that time Arteta.

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    Mop is stating facts,the others are clearly not.Xhaka has survived under Wenger,Emery and Arteta.All of whom have thought he’s not only good enough to play for this club but all of them have even seen him as captain material.Ofcourse his national team as well.
    What Muffler is suggesting is pure speculation – If’s and but’s.
    No one has ever suggested he is the best.But to suggest he’s not good enough to play for this club even though time and again it has been proven how awful we actually are without him in the team is just as ludicrous to say as Arteta is a manager who lacks tactical nous even after certain facts clearly favour him.
    No one is denying in terms of discipline Xhaka is a clear nutter though and again the record speaks for itself.

    Please learn to differentiate between a fact and an opinion.Clearly it will never be done on this forum.

    Mop,I suggest you leave it.There are barely a couple of posters left on this forum.They’re either after Arteta or Xhaka.If it’s not one ,it’s the other.

    I think this the Jan transfer window is nearing and it’s better if people discussed transfers instead of the same old nonsense.

    Speaking about Chambers,What an absolutely poor decision.What is it we signed him for 17m?With inflation and if the player’s contract was managed correctly he should be going for atleast 20-25m in today’s market but we’ve sold him for peanuts,as always.

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    he played under Arteta, Wenger and Emery because the rest worse which is what I said. Its however nothing to be happy about it just that at our club the level of quality there is poor nowadays. We have had much better players there and If those still played he would not start.

    Its not speculation when those clubs have better players on that position and that is why he would not start every game like here. He would play but not much and he would not walk in to their teams like here.

    As for Chambers you dont get much when 6 months is left so that issue was created earlier. What they are doing now is saving salaries for the summer since only 17 games are left to play. Risky sure but we are not buying anyone in Jan.

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    Fatmop, Quote: ‘Every manager he has played under both domestic and international since he broke through play him, he is never on the bench. So that’s managers who have been sacked and who ever managers Switzerland at the time. Hardly an advert for his abilities. You claim he is never on the bench. No he’s too busy sitting in the stands serving a ban for red or yellow cards or serving a club ban for abusing fans, throwing his shirt down and storming out of the ground for which and decent manager would have kicked him out of the club.

    #2047390
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    And whilst we are discussing Arteta and The Donkey has anyone discovered the year Arteta gained the 2nd most points behind Pep. It was presented as a fact so you would have thought the person who stated it would know when it was. Someone, anyone.

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    Muffler – I think in some form we agree. Xhaka is the best WE have. Shifty boy is arguing Arteta picks poor players and leaves better players out. A moronic statement without substance.

    I am not claiming Xhaka is world class or we can’t upgrade. But he is the best we have and the team play better with him in it.

    Unfortunately some can’t see what he does, but then I am conversing with someone who thinks we played poor football in the Wenger era, which says it all really.

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    Agree mop

    For me Xhakas bad sides overweigh his good ones. I dont like a player who puts his teamates in problems and just wont learn from it. 48 yellow and 5 red is a card every 3rd game he is a liabillity.

    As for Arteta well he does what Wenger did tries to prove he is right over the ones on his back. I dont mind that as sometimes thats a good thing. But you also sometimes need to understand when its not working instead of trying and trying to get something to work when its not. Willian was a key example when he picked a poor player over better ones. In Xhakas case he only has Partey to pick over him. But thats on Arteta and Edu that we dont have better to pick from.

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    Moppy your lying again. At no time did I say Arsenal played poor football under Clouseau. What I did say was we played losers football under Wenger from 2005-2018. Why do you think Vieira, Fabregas, Van Persie, Henry et all all wanted to leave. Strange you bring Clouseau up because there’s an article on The Daily Mirror website today stating that Xhaka had been at Arsenal for a while before Wenger realised he couldn’t tackle 😂 😂 Priceless

    And once again you’re lying, what I said was he won’t give anyone else’s look in if Xhaka is available, he has always received preferential treatment and he’s the one player who deserves it the least. Maybe AMN would have proved better had he ever been given a chance. Torreira was better than him when he played, so was Guendouzi. Xhaka’s crass sendings off have exposed Arteta as the trainee Clipboard warrior he is. And as for this transfer window. Words fail me

    #2047428

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    😂🤣😂🤣 toys out the pram time. So you think we played good football under Wenger now? Well theres something.

    And, its a bit daft accusing me of lying about you claiming Arteta picks Xhaka over better players, when what you said is in thread. You have a habit of that.

    Words fail you do they? I can’t imagine anyone on here minds.

    #2047454
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    Toys out of pram 😂 you really are funny. Yes Arsenal played good football largely with someone else’s players and some good signings. Sadly those players quickly realised he didn’t know what he was doing so they all demanded transfers. And it’s that abject failure of Wengers that is about to lead us into the longest period in the clubs history without the title. That’s how good the football has been for the last 16-18 years. So when did I categorically claim Arteta picks Xhaka over better players in this thread? I didn’t did I. Reading not up to scratch again.

    Hang on is it you that stated FACT Arteta has gained the 2nd most posts in a calendar year. I bet it was

    #2047515

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    If you can’t read posts, forget who wrote what and forget what you’ve written there really is no hope, is there?

    So xhaka along with Partey is the best centre midfielder we have and Arteta doesn’t pick him over better players – I am glad we finally agree.

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    😂 😂 😂 Just as I thought you can’t read. Something else I didn’t say. If I was you I’d go over all of your posts in this thread because you’re either illiterate, don’t actually understand what you’re saying or you’re just a liar. You Wengies have always made up crap.

    Which reminds me you still haven’t told me the year when Arteta accrued the 2nd most points. Come on you must know after all it is a FACT.

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    Oh dear. Arteta picks Xhaka over better players, then he doesn’t, then he does.

    Now you’re asking something about a year accruing the second most points?

    You need to look back over the thread because you’re getting very confused. Maybe have a lie down first, eh?

    #2047579
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    You’re the one doing that Moppy as is clear to see. You make a statement which turns out to be a lie. You’re asked a simple question ‘ which message was that, reproduce it’ and you can’t because you’re lying again. You then start the diversion tactics and the gobbledygook but never evidence or proof just like the FF it’s bullshit. You Wengies are all the same. Defending the indefensible.

    So which year was it Arteta obtained the 2nd most points. After all it’s a FACT

    And to top it all it took Wenger 3 months to realise Xhaka couldn’t tackle.

    It’s a laugh a minute on here

    #2047584

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    Don’t know why you’re again banging on about a year Arteta collected the most points? Certainly nothing I’ve said! Honestly I am getting a bit worried about you.

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    After all these sales and now they took Willshire to Dubai yet Arteta say no chance of him playing it’s all just madness.

    #2047587

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    Stev – If Wilshire is a good influence on the younger players, why not take him? I guess we’re not paying for his wages as a coach, and he is training and helping the players. Why not take him? I think it’s good for all – Shifty – perhaps he can rub off some 2012 Wengerball? 😜

    As for sales – we’ve got rid of players who weren’t playing, yes the squad is thread bare but hopefully some will be incoming!

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    Fatmop surely a another youngster would have benefited instead of bringing him. I am Sure he is a good influence but there are more of the youth at home if that’s what he is there for. My guess is they are getting him fit for the squad.

    #2047593

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    I think the focus is on what’s best for the squad, that is the players who are likely to play the last 17 games.

    So when I say Wilshire is likely to be a good influence on the youngsters I don’t really mean the kids, I mean the like of Lokongo, Saka, ESR, Martinelli etc

    I just don’t see the problem with him being there, it’s not like a squad place is taken up and I am sure it’s a benefit to both him and the players – they must like him there.

    As for him playing again for us, I doubt it because if that was on the cards I think it would have been announced already, but you never know!

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    Moppy, it was presented as a fact. You must know who presented it, was a Wengie and an Arteta lover so you must know. As for your claim Arteta doesn’t pick inferior players over better players I will give you a list if you like just to expose another one of your stories. I can’t wait to see what he does on deadline day

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