Chelsea at home

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    hookeddevil
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    Rashford is on roughly £200k a week. Our ‘star’ players are on £400k or thereabouts (Sanchez, De Gea). If Pogba got a new deal it would be enormous. Based on our salary scale Rashford’s is about right. It’ll take him to 24 or so when he’s either moved on because he didn’t make it or he gets a truly obscene wage because he’s one of the best.

    *Our salary scale is nuts, that’s a different discussion and entirely a fuck up of Ed’s making.

    #1774553

    To be fair, Ronaldo was very much a diving showboater with no end product when he first arrived – highly talented definitely and had his moments of magic where you could tell that, if he managed to sort himself out, he’d be a world beater. Similar to Henry – he started slow at Arsenal and only looked potentially world class in brief moments.

    What both eventually accomplished was down to them working hard and adapting their game and improving significantly in their end product.

    Rashford is similar to both in that he gives off glimpses of being world class (the goal he scored against Liverpool 2 years ago when he cut inside and rifled it into the corner reminded me of Ronaldo in the 07-08 season) so now it all depends on him to do what Ronaldo and Henry did and convert his potential into the finished product.

    #1774554

    happyhurling
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    Steveo – Yeah we all know Henry started out as a winger and was shite, it’s been drummed into us by your lot for years, and then he became world class at Arsenal. I’d argue Rashford has played more on the wing than through the middle so it’s roughly comparable.

    #1774559
    Alfie07
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    Has De Gea signed his new contract yet?

    I know their was a story in the papers saying he would sign when the tour finished but i’ve not seen any further stories saying he has signed.

    #1774560

    CM
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    Blimey, you would have thought we lost the game reading some of the comments on here.

    #1774561

    hookeddevil
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    Don’t think De Gea has signed, the deal is for a reported £375k a week though.

    #1774562

    CM
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    Good win against a tough opposition throughout the PL era no matter what side they put out. Patchy and sloppy during the first half, but eventually grew in the game.

    #1774566

    happyhurling
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    Blacky – So a local lad scoring the winner in the derby is the same to you as someone from South America scoring? Ok then.

    Rashford isn’t a top paid player, i think you were spouting he was getting a contract of £300k a week in the summer which was pure bollocks. His contract, from my understanding, is around £150k a week with bonuses and add-ons that can get him to £200k a week. Not exactly top bucks, £350k Sanchez money is it?!

    Not sure where i’m trying to “compare other people’s football judgement to mine” but the only reason i’ve a bad record in predicting stardom against you is because you predict fuck all players will come good. The only player you’ve ever said would be a “future star” was Timothy fucking Fosu Mensah! Ha ha, nuff said. 😉

    #1774570

    Blacky
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    @hooked – Several of the more trusted sources (eg The Telegraph, Independent etc) reported Rashford’s contract at being worth 250k per week plus considerable bonuses, and seeing as tubby Luke got 200k per week last season I would suggest their sources are far more reliable than most mate.

    It was also stated that as a result Rashford is now the highest paid English player in the league, which means he is on more than Harry Kane, so it’s time now for him to step up consistently and show he deserves it, simple as that.

    #1774584

    CM
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    Sorry Blacky, but there seems to be some inconsitency in regards to what the telegraph are reporting.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/29/marcus-rashford-close-agreeing-new-five-year-250000-a-week-deal/amp/

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/30/marcus-rashford-puts-pen-paper-300000-a-week-deal-stay-manchester/amp/

    The same journalist reported 2 different salaries a day apart. Proving he doesn’t have clue.

    The BBC have reported Rashford is on 200,000k a week, no elaboration on if that includes bonuses or not. Simon Stone and David Ornstein at the BBC are probably the most reliable when it comes to Manchester United news, they never jumps the gun when it comes to transfer news and contract signings and ensure is accurate before fully reporting the news.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/48826737

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/07/20/david-de-gea-agrees-six-year-manchester-united-contract-worth/amp/

    James Ducker reported De Gea was going to sign a new contract and it was going to be announced after the club return from the pre season tour.

    #1774587

    Blacky
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    @happy – When the winner in a derby goes in I don’t wet my knickers even more just because he’s from Salford or Burnage, why would I?
    Of course it’s great when local lads come good because they tend to be more loyal and it keeps our identity intact, plus it also saves us a fortune in the transfer market, but as long as a Rio, a Nemanja, a Ronaldo or a Rooney (pre 2012) come in and sweat blood for the cause I’m equally just as chuffed when they do the business on the pitch as well.

    As for your “understanding” of Rashford’s contract, well as per usual you are taking through your completely clueless arse. Do you seriously think he signed for less than the likes of Martial or Shaw had done just a few months previously?, especially when he was already in the last year of his contract?, even Marcus twatting Rojo is on 150k per week! Do a bit of research and a much clearer figure will emerge!

    As for TFM, there’s still time at 21 years of age for him to come good yet, but unfortunately it seems it’s not going to happen because if for no other reason he’s always bloody injured, which is a big shame for the lad because he was excellent for a short while under LvG and looked like a potential physical beast of an 18 yr old lad at that time.
    The massive irony is TFM is the only name you could pull out whereas I could fill the Albert Hall with your list of assorted misfits and talentless fucktards who have failed abysmally to make the grade.

    Oh, and do you know why I predicted that those “fuck all players will come good” it’s because I have the judgement to see that they wouldn’t, and guess who was proved right time and again on that score?

    Fuck me, it was only in mid March that you were ‘informing’ me that Nemanja Matic “is one of the top 3 players in his position in the league”, or have you conveniently airbrushed that from your history as well?, hahaha!

    #1774590

    hookeddevil
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    We clearly pay our first team players more than anyone else would. Rashford and Shaw are, rightly or wrongly, first team players are paid accordingly. Here’s hoping they play like first teamers this season.

    #1774591

    Blacky
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    @cm – Only those close to the deal know the absolute exact amounts involved mate, but there are enough good sources out there that have a bloody good idea of the ballpark figures for sure, and that is bound to be well north of 200k per week. Which let’s face it is almost a ‘standard issue’ contract at OT these days!

    Rashford and his agent had the club over a barrel during the summer because he was running down his deal and the club also had big problems with the wages Sanchez was on, plus the likes of Lukaku and Pogba angling to leave, so anyone thinking that Rashford and his entourage suddenly caved in for about the same as Luke Shaw got is living in cloud cuckoo land I’m afraid.

    As for DDG, it would not surprise me one iota if he wasn’t ‘playing’ Woodward for the obvious mug that he is by promising to sign then BINGO come January we read that he’s signed a pre contractual agreement with PSG or Madrid.

    #1774596

    Blacky
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    Just a quick addendum to the above, the Manchester Evening News have just reported that Rojo is in talks with Fenerbache about a move, and they are stating that his currently salary is 190k per week!!!!
    Fuck me, just the thought of 150k was bad enough!

    #1774617
    redblood
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    Agree Killy, May was a prick and so is Boris, May a prick?You mean a cunt?lol

    #1774622

    happyhurling
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    Blacky – Ha ha, fucking hell £190k a week? That’s daylight robbery, it’s no wonder he is unsellable. Fucking hell!

    Who out of this current crop are you tipping for greatness then Blacky, come on mate. Your TFM prediction fell flat on its arse, surely you’re due another throw of the dice…?!

    #1774634

    Blacky
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    @happy – Firstly, I never tipped him for “greatness” I said he had great potential, there’s a big difference! Let’s put it this way, I’m certainly not tipping Jones, Lingard, Lindelof, Shaw, McTominay or fuck knows who else you think already are brilliant, or are nailed on to become future superstars, that’s for certain!

    The irony is if Rashford or any of your other ‘mates’ were playing for Liverpool or City you would be pulling their respective games to pieces and pointing out how shite and overrated they all are and how they are not worth 250k or whatever per week, fact.

    #1774639

    CM
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    Rashford at 21 has a better goals per games ratio than Shearer, Henry, Ronaldo, Sterling and many others, he is not that far behind Rooney too. People keep forgetting he is 21, unless you’re Messi, you’re definitely not going to be the finished product at that age. Rashford will most likely peak at 23 onwards. With the right level of coaching and attitude, he will get there imo. He is 1 of the few youngsters we have that has potential to be great. Lets just get behind the lad, rather than belittle him.

    It is expected from Liverpool and City fans to ridicule Rashford, in hope he does not come out great. That is what club rivalry and banter is about. You wouldn’t expect it from his very own fans. Would have understood if he was 25 or 26 and he is still making the same mistakes, not when he is 21.

    #1774640

    Blacky
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    @cm – “Getting behind the lad” is what you do in the stadium on match day, no problem with that. BUT on an internet forum with just a few dozen contributors, come on it’s a place where people air their views rightly or wrongly, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    It is my honest opinion that Rashford will never be a top goalscorer to rank with the names being mentioned, but that doesn’t mean that I hope that he fails just to prove me right because I would love nothing more than for him to beat Romney’s club goalscoring record and become a club legend, simple as that.

    #1774642

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    Blacky-

    I agree, you’re entitled to your opinion. There is always going to be a level of scepticism, especially what the club have been through the last 7 years.

    Imo the same noise some are making in regards to Rashford, were saying the same thing about Ronaldo. 20 years ago, they were probably saying the same about Henry. It is too early to judge such players. I agree Rashford is still raw, his decision making is questionable, but hopefully he will improve on that. Thankfully he has a manager who trusts in him. That is why Henry, Ronaldo and others turned in to the players they did.

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