Chelsea away – FA Cup

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    jm1502
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    Single handedly won us the league in 2012? That must have been some fucking effort by him libanski, because we didn’t win the title in 2012. Dear oh dear.

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    redblood
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    Lol @libanski,remember Aguerooooooooooooooooooooo?

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    redblood
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    Manthistle
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    @macguffin

    Carrick is 39th and let’s remember the list is heavily weighted to recent players because everybody has seen them whilst few have seen the players from yesteryear (eg Giggs ahead of Best).

    Is it heavily weighted? Charlton 2nd, Law 4th, Best 7th. You mention Giggs ahead of Best yet don’t acknowledge that both Charlton and Law are also ahead of Best. You just added your opinion to the list with that final comment in that you think Best should be ahead of Giggs.

    I would argue that there are more current players because that is our most successful period. But if you split the players between Fergie and pre-Fergie there are 23 pre-Fergie and 27 Fergie, so not heavily weighted as you claim.

    You have essentially found a poll which has carrick as one of our better players yet, because you don’t agree with its results, attempted to dismiss its accuracy.

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    Zico
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    Overrated as fuck. Whats interesting Manny is you dont rate Matic and overrate Carrick. Care to elaborate this?

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    Manthistle
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    Zico – before Matic signed I rated him but thought he was too old at 29 nearly 30 to warrant purchasing. Then he started well but went shitter as the months past to the point where he was our worst player yet played week in week out. Under ole though I think he’s improved immensely and I’m happy he plays alongside Herrera and Pogba.

    In your opinion I overrate Carrick. Doesn’t mean you’re right or wrong.

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    MacGuffin
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    Manthistle – Its not a matter of my opinion, its a matter of the poll being skewed because everybody has seen Giggs, few have seen Bestie play? Have you?

    @zico – Matic at 29 was too old but Carrick at 36 was great. Yeah.

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    Zico
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    @Mac-Double standards for different players.
    Bestie? There will be no player like Bestie,one of a kind!

    @Manny-We all have our favourite players and by so we give them more slack when they are not that good.

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    Manthistle
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    @macguffin

    You’ve just selected one comparison to suit your agenda. Giggs vs Best. Your conclusion is that it is skewed because most fans have seen Giggs but haven’t seen Best. Well, I don’t know many Utd fans that would have Law over Best. I also don’t know many modern day fans who would have Johnny Carey over David Beckham, yet according to the poll he is.

    I’m surprised you have cherry picked as much as you have here given how often you like to pull up others for doing similar in the past.

    @zico @macguffin

    We didn’t buy Carrick at 36. That was my point. I thought bringing a new player to the club at 29 was counter productive. Mac, you’ve always said we shouldn’t sign p[layers over 25 in an ideal world. A philosophy I share, so why the criticism here? Are you just on a wind up?

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    Manthistle
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    @zico

    Good point. You must give Clasie a shit load of slack given your love for him and how shit he is.

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    MacGuffin
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    Manthistle – Yes I always argue was should not buy old players and I was against the signing of Matic for that reason.

    I also argue that when veterans get over 30 the time has come to look to move them on. And for that reason, UNLIKE YOU, I argued Carrick, Giggs (and more) should be moved on just as I say the same today about Young Valencia.

    AS for polls & rankings being skewed to the more recent, that is the nature of it, not me cherry picking. You will find the same for music or other similar rankings. The reason is simple, as I explained.

    Have you seen Best play?

    But the point is, Carrick is well down the list.

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    happyhurling
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    Carrick is down the list because he wasn’t a flair player or a goal scorer. He just made the engine tick. I am trying my best not to get involved in this Carrick debate again!

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    Manthistle
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    @macguffin

    Carrick should have been replaced earlier than he was. But the club never signed anyone that was an upgrade on him until Matic arrived. I use the term upgrade lightly though. You could argue that they are still looking.

    That poll wasn’t skewed as you put it though. 23 old players and 27 new players suggests a pretty even split and considering that our most successful period is more recent it would be more accurate to include more recent players.

    There is nothing to say current music is better than older music. Thats subjective. But Utd were factually better from 1993 than before hence more newer players making the poll.

    No, I sadly never saw Best play. Only seen what the cameras captured which my dad assured me didn’t even begin to adequately show what he could do with a football.

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    redblood
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    Matic is an upgrade on Carrick in his dreams only,even though I believe Carrick was indeed overrated.

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    Manthistle
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    He was an upgrade solely on the grounds he was significantly younger. I’d still take a 29 year old Carrick over a 29 year old Matic

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    redblood
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    I d still take 75 yrs old Carrick over 29 yrs old Matic. I d take Giggsy now over Sanchez,and Scholes over Mata,Neville over Valencia & Darmian,Rio/Vida over Jones,Smalling,Rojo!

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