February 14, 2020 at 6:40 pm #1826657
Due to FFP breachFebruary 14, 2020 at 6:57 pm #1826666
Welcome back whoever finishes fifth or are Sheffield United going to the Champions League?February 14, 2020 at 8:34 pm #1826686
Sean the sailorParticipant
Doubt it will Be upheld Alfie mate
Appealed and suspendedFebruary 14, 2020 at 8:40 pm #1826688
Blimey, I assumed they’d bunged their way out of that one.
Does the Premier league have to take action as well now?February 14, 2020 at 8:44 pm #1826690
Sean this has to do with the financial years from 2012-2016, they’ve been caught in doing what Der Spiegel stated they had been doing according to the football leak a few years ago… Same leak that got Blatter and Platini, its funny how that does not happen with image rights… or its harder to do when those contracts impose what you can do because nobody wants to be associated with some of the stuff that has been stated but now Im talking conspiracy…February 14, 2020 at 9:30 pm #1826698
Sean, I think the appeal will only get it reduced to one year. They can only really appeal the sentance as the evidence looks clear cut.
CAS always reduces the punishment but UEFA have worked that out and increase the punishment accordingly.February 14, 2020 at 9:31 pm #1826699
What the PL now do will be interesting.February 14, 2020 at 9:45 pm #1826702
nine nine nineModerator
This has been bubbling for a long time and City have seemingly been trying to scare UEFA off with the threat of law suits etc.
I don’t think that UEFA will back down on this City have been found guilty of some serious breaches of the rules no matter where and how the evidence may have been obtained the situation has gone past UEFA now and the only avenue open to City now is to appeal to CAS.
Without seeing all the evidence but going on some of what has been leaked you would imagine that City’s best opportunity may be to get the ban decreased to a season but even that could be tough given the evidence.
Worse still Sky are currently reporting that the PL are looking into this and may apply points deductions which could if that happened potentially strip City of titles?
And finally where will this all leave Pep and is this the reason that he’s yet to commit himself past next season tied in to all this?
Additionally of course the loss of CL revenues will likely hinder City’s recruitment policy in the Summer at a time when they look like they need strengthening in a number of positions.
There’s an awtul lot more water to flow under the Bridge on all of this though yet imo.
Of course the other interesting aspect of all this is that it potentially opens up 5th place to a CL placeFebruary 14, 2020 at 10:20 pm #1826704
A bit like a gold medal winner who has been found to have cheated .February 15, 2020 at 4:56 am #1826709
Does this mean that 5th spot is now a CL place?February 15, 2020 at 7:37 am #1826711
What about PSG? Am sure they’ve been on the fiddle. Would they do this to Real or Barcelona?February 15, 2020 at 8:08 am #1826714
PSG have already been investigated, found to have broken the rules and fined. They now comply.
City were already investigated, found to have broken the rules and fined. They have now been found to have misled the initial investigation. They have been found to have lied about sponsorship (inflated deals, back dated others and made up phantom bonus payments – all which their owner paid). This is hugely different to anything anyone else has done.February 15, 2020 at 10:24 pm #1826863
Someone from somewhere who happens to be a mole and who selectively applies to rules feels his club has been threatened. Because Manchester these days is blue, and he is doing everything in his power to stop this blue wave. but that will not stand up with the test of time. some clubs can spend, make a loss, post income that is very huge, and none happens.`February 16, 2020 at 7:46 am #1826871
nine nine nineModerator
This could galvanise Pep and the players or it could go the other way, they were all reportedly called in to meet Soriano Saturday lunchtime.
It’s going to be interesting to see what the final outcome will be with CAS and whether Pep will stay along with certain players.
Without City have got something up their sleeves that we don’t know about they are likely to be out of Europe for at least a season which will effect their transfer dealings in terms of who will come and who they can afford to buy. Their financial stability would be severely damaged by no CL revenues for 2 years and players may have to be sold or indeed want to move on.
No European football could help City in the PL as it did Leicester and Chelsea or it could hinder them the one key position they will need to solve is in Central Defence they could definitely get by for at least a season if they could hold on to the current squad and they solve the Centre Back issues.
It’s a massive hammer blow to the Club though and given the information in the public domain through the leaks assuming they are all accurate then probably the best outcome for City would through their appeal to CAS be getting the ban reduced to a season.
I suspect it will all get sorted fairly quickly though certainly pre the draw for the early stages of the CL.February 16, 2020 at 8:16 am #1826879
The blow can be softened if it gets reduced to a year and they win the CL this season.February 16, 2020 at 8:41 am #1826888
Its a hit by 300 million or so, 100 million or so every season from the Champions League plus sponsorship deals will go down and they will play less games… They are going to be in serious trouble to abiding to the ban and it will be really interesting to see what the English FA will do.
On paper right now City look like a really good bet for the league next season unless they are given a point deduction, Leicester could not have won the title if they had been playing European football, same goes for the last Chelsea side but if City need to deal with a point deduction and sell players to fix the books they will be in a lot of trouble.
They will not be able to get that central defender they need, they can’t replace Silva either and are likely to have to sell one or more of their star players. The only one I can’t see leaving right now is Aguero, I think he wants to end his career at City, break that record of Shearer but that will be the only light at the end of the tunnel if this ban will be upheld.February 17, 2020 at 12:58 pm #1827097
Is there a difference from cooking the books and doing what Leeds did? I mean the FA has penalized a number of clubs that have gone into the red, broken some rules and not been able to pay of their debts. Is there much difference between doing that and magically cooking the books?February 17, 2020 at 1:22 pm #1827101
Massive difference. One is deliberate cheating, the other an accidental mistake or a consequence of incompetence.
The PL will rule on City in this country. Interesting what they do there as they made the rules deliberately looser that UEFA’s FFP rules in the hope that they would never need to enforce them as UEFA would do that first.
Such a lot of water to flow under the bridge in the coming months. Could well end up with a technicality ruling on this and the fall of every sports disciplinary process. City could really ruin many sports if they push and push.February 17, 2020 at 1:24 pm #1827103
Wise fan – I am going to regret this I am sure, but what are you on about?February 17, 2020 at 1:59 pm #1827110
Thats the thing, one is deliberate the other because of mismanagement, which is the worse one? Are we supposed to let cheats get away with what ever when we punish those that simple fucked up big-time like Leeds? Cause if Leeds had cooked the books they would not be down there like they are, they would not have been battling in the Championship for a decade now. They would have kept Ferdinand, Woodgate, Bowyer, Kewell and who ever else got sold! They would have gotten top dollar if they had not been battling with bankruptcy… I don’t see how the FA can give City a pass, considering what has gone on before!
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