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  • #1679727

    Northwich Baggie
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    This was a time to give the youngsters a go so what happens we get half the outfield team over 30! We’re 0-1 and have Gayle, Burke and Leko on the bench for a bit of pace and what does he do? He puts another old fart in Brunt plus a defender and a forward with little experience! It’s time for DM to step aside as he doesn’t seem to have much idea regarding team selection or tactics.

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    This is a strange season. There have been games where DM has been praised for playing to our strengths with a line up of 3-5-2 with Philips and Gibbs excellent wing backs good in both defence and attack. There are other games in which this system has left us very vulnerable and which we have escaped from only by virtue of the opposition’s inability to convert more than one of the many opportunities that come their way. We are not a Manchester City, Liverpool or even Wolves to say that this is the way we play whoever the opposition and we remain vulnerable and in a false position mainly, but not only, through our weakness (one of quality and quantity) in central midfield. DM and his team need to coach the team to revert to 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 when the need arises. This I fear he may be unwilling or unable to do. Also, if Barnes’s loan expires in January and Leicester take him back – and why wouldn’t they as he’s proving himself an excellent replacement for Mahrez) we will be deprived of the one truly creative player in the team. In other words, the jury is still out on DM but in terms of the future, the negatives are outweighing the positives.

    #1680187

    Northwich Baggie
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    Barnes is here for the season but Leicester have the option to get him back in January. Against teams like Leeds, Brentford and Boro and for some away games I think 442, 451 or 4411 is needed. Dawson, Arabioyo, Hegazi and Gibbs at the back. Phillips, Liverish, one of the old farts and Field in the middle and Barnes playing just behind Gayle with JRod as sub. I’m puzzled why Burke who played so well for Forest in the Champs isn’t being given a go nor is Leko who showed promise in his cameo appearances. The old farts should only play if there is a massive injury list as they’re mostly past it! Something needs to be done. There is the saying ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it’. Well it’s not broken but has been severely bent on a couple of occasions!

    #1680213

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    Never saw the game and would not have wanted to either. I presume that the team came out waving white handkerchiefs because when I saw the selection two things were obvious (1) we would not score and (2) they would. I hope that this is a nadir moment for the club because if it falls any lower we could sink without trace but what an utter shambles and for me I’m afraid its goodbye Mr Nice Guy. DM shows no aptitude whatsoever for the essential skills of team selection and tactics and if he believes relegating our better younger players behind a bunch of old men not wanted by any other club is a way of motivating them and achieving the harmony on which he seems so intent he is utterly deluded. The 10000 or so who turned up last night should be given their money back.

    Take away two loan players and this is the worst squad in recent memory being organised by the least competent coach/manager I can recall and quite how we sit third in the Chump is remarkable. The kids are disillusioned and so am I.

    #1680223

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    Come on DH, get off the fence and say what you really think (:-)) Seriously, as in my previous post, 3 managers have not trusted our youth and they see them day in and day out so what makes us think we know better, is it the years of playing Championship Manager.

    #1680519

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    Maybe you have a point, Duke. But I would take issue with you concerning one younger player, Field. He was identified by Pulis as a first team prospect and Meson in his brief tenure played him to good effect. In fact he scored an excellent goal against Newcastle. Pardew froze him out and DM is doing the same giving him a few minutes at the end of games.

    I think we’ve all been able to identify where the main weakness lies and it’s central midfield. Livermore is probably worth his place but Chris Brunt is past it. We are effectively playing with ten and a half men, or ten men and a left foot. Teams that play fast attacking football sweep past our midfield at will and this is bound to hurt us as Brunt won’t get any better.
    Perhaps DM is too caring and too loyal to a longstanding servant. Whatever the cold hard facts are that Field should be in there providing energy and mobility and few people can understand why he’s not.

    #1680634

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    The games I play dukest are all outdoors not on a computer but unwittingly I think you are on to something. Sky made it well known not too long ago that because the relative performance figures used in these games are now so accurate club managers here and throughout Europe are using them to influence how they spend their money in the transfer market. Clearly DM is a player and because it takes match time to build up stats the kids will never compete with some worn out, mid thirties never has been but who has perhaps two or three hundred games on record. Voila! This is why we buy and play them!

    That apart if the kids are no good why do we keep them? Most have come through the academy but we paid good money for Burke and for what exactly? To sit on his arse on the subs bench for two games out of three so that the likes of Mears, Hoolahan and the rest of the old men get some time on the pitch? We will never know how well they might develop if never given a chance and if not in this league, when and where? Sam Field is probably the most deserving but he, Burke and Leko all deserve a run they are not going to get under Mr Happy.

    I don’t have or am particularly interested in most of the playing stats which now exist but in 64 years given to supporting this club through thick and (mostly) thin I have seen teams played by most of the 32 managers we have employed since Alan Ashman. This is not the worst but it aint good and the path we appear to be set on is far from encouraging. An absent and probably completely disaffected owner, a coach who has never hired or fired a player before getting this job and who has demonstrated nothing beyond Plan A on the field including joke substitutions. Still disillusioned.

    #1680837

    sarky parky
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    Let’s be realistic. Things are not really as good as third in the league makes out but certainly nowhere near as bad as DH is painting them. Surely the coaching staff are aware of where the weaknesses lie, and we should be giving young strikers the chance as substitutes as Hal Robson-K is not good enough. We may lose JRod and even Dawson in January so surely we should be addressing this possibility. Apart from playing Field instead of Brunt, That’s my main concern. But come on DH, I’ve been supporting the Baggies a lot longer than you and I can remember a lot worse squads than this. Every squad from 1985 to 2001 for example.

    #1680863

    Northwich Baggie
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    Bloody hell, I thought I was old. Like DH I’ve been supporting the Baggies since 1954 but sarky claims to have been supporting for longer than that. Must have been a babe in arms as I was 8! Things aren’t as bad as the times mentioned but then we had no money so sold our best players and brought in managers on the cheap. Now we have Sky money, parachute payments etc so should be doing better not going back to getting everything on the cheap. We’ve gone steadily downhill in all departments since JP sold the club and although the football is (mostly) better than it was there is plenty of room for improvement especially in central midfield (non-existent half the time).The use of the same tactics every week when it’s obvious that it doesn’t always work, the lack of plan B and the substitutions worries me. The top teams will have figured us out as Boro did and while we might do okay otherwise it won’t bring us promotion.

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