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    nine nine nine
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    reds forever, I’m not lecturing anyone mate, if you like sanji think a PL title every three years is a realistic objective for Liverpool that’s completely up to you but it will just add to the ongoing frustrations imo. Nothing wrong with dreaming though!😊

    Bingo, of course not there’s nothing wrong with having the ambition to win the PL title I’m sure all of Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal will all share the same ambition but imo it will be a tough call for all over the next 4/5 seasons given the strength of City and how much both of the two Manchester club’s can invest every Summer.

    Bob, don’t get me wrong mate as I have said on here on a number of occasions previously with 3 or 4 key signings Liverpool will be true title challengers imo it’s just how strong City are and will continue to be with a great Coach and untouchable spending and how much Mourinho will throw at it every summer.

    #1556460

    nine nine nine
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    red steve, with you on that mate as I said earlier on this thread “Liverpool that season based on the football they played deserved the title imo but sadly it wasn’t to be.”

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    Bob-Notts
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    Nine fair point but don’t you think it will all go pair shaped with Utd at some point. I just don’t think it will end well and City – we just don’t know what peps long terms ambitions are.

    As I said we’d have to prioritise it thou as that’s where I agree with you city (for example) have a great squad not just first team.

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    nine nine nine
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    Bob, you’re right there’s no telling with Mourinho he’s combustible and has a self destruct button that he always presses himself at some stage, but I will be surprised if he looks to leave United before he’s taken them to a League title win which is what he’s done at every club he’s managed from Porto onwards and I suspect he will spend very heavily in the summer again.

    You’re also correct with Pep nobody knows his ambitions and as we know very few Managers even the most successful these days last very long but Pep’s done it all in Spain and won successive titles at Bayern which realistically leaves only Italy and perhaps PSG and two of his Barca mates head up the management team at City so that makes life quite comfortable for him as does the enormous financial resources and I can see him extending his current contract at City.

    Tbh I just thought that suggesting that Liverpool should be winning a PL title every three years was a bit silly given how long it is since Liverpool have won one and how competitive the League is at the top of the table now.

    Don’t get me wrong I think that with 3 or 4 of the right signings Liverpool are likely to be genuine title challengers going forwards but even winning one title given the competition that now exists is a tough ask and winning multiple titles every 3 seasons would be much much tougher. But there’s nothing wrong with dreaming. Cheers 999

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    shanksy
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    There’s no point dreaming that we will get the four or five top players we need to move us on. It won’t happen under FSG, they’ve said they won’t spend money like City et al even if they had it. We are at the highest level we can expect to be under them. The title challenge was down to Suarez and Studge being unplayable. That was proved by our fall the following season. No folks, I’m afraid we have reached our peak which is scrapping to finish fourth every season. Deal with it.

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    Bob-Notts
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    Nine hmm I’m not sure it’s gonna happen at Utd for Mourinho for various reasons ….

    That being said I do agree it will be be difficult to regularly win it thou, all it takes is the right strategies employed. Thou I do think we will win it once under Klopps reign. The right buys and perhaps a change in ownership at some point. Who knows mate.

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    nine nine nine
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    Bob, I think Klopp is potentially on a bit of a sticky wicket having not solved the defensive frailties in two years and in not having a reliable No 1 keeper and he needs to put those two right sooner rather than later now imo.

    Klopp seems much more comfortable offensively than he is defensively and tbh with you I really enjoy his policy of if you score 3 we’ll score 4 but I’m not sure it can work in the PL.

    If Klopp can overcome and coach out some of the defensive frailties along with strengthening in the areas that need strengthening then I can see him potentially winning at least one PL title during his tenure although winning it every three seasons would be a much tougher ask.

    If Klopp doesn’t solve the defensive frailties though ultimately he might come under a bit of pressure from the owners.

    Nothing wrong with dreaming though mate I never dared to dream of Chelsea ever winning a League title yet I’ve seen them win 5 PL titles in 12 years and the Leicester fans never ever dreamt they would win a PL title yet they did. So dreams do come true sometimes. Cheers 999

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    shanksy
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    Dreams don’t and haven’t come true under FSG. Klopp may be to blame for the fact that around £20m has been spent on defence since he arrived. On the other hand he may not. For me January will tell how desperate the club is to put the defence right. I don’t think they will.

    #1556679

    nine nine nine
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    Shanksy, Defensive Coaching plays a part too and I think Klopp has fallen short in that area.

    Klopp has spent circa £150m gross during his tenure at Liverpool with very little of it being invested on the defence which can’t be FSG’s fault.

    In fairness to both Klopp and the owners had Southampton been prepared to sell VVD to Liverpool they would have invested a lot of money in him.

    January is a tough time though to buy the players you really want and will Southampton be prepared to sell VVD in January? may be or may be not, if they were prepared to sell VVD to Liverpool I think it would be a step in the right direction but I’m not sure VVD will solve all of Liverpool’s defensive frailties.

    #1556682

    NotoriousBingo
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    Shanks, Ayre wasn’t the best of them, the jury is still out on Edwards. I find it astonishing that the club itself stated that all targets wanted a move to here but that they had failed with the bids.

    #1556689

    redsforever
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    Nine dont worry abt liverpool fans being frustrated mate we’ve been having those for 27 years already!😂 I dont know any liverpool fan who really thinks that we are gonna win the league this season or next but it doesnt mean we shouldnt try to win the damn thing.

    And when u said winning things in 70s and 80s means nowt now, mate seriously we know that already. I am past that phase of expecting to win the league every season at least 20 years ago. I dont need someone telling me how to think as a liverpool fan. Like how we shouldnt think we can win at city away. Or that we can win the league, because it will only add to our frustrations. Thats why sonetimes i feel that u come across as lecturing liverpool fans. 🙂

    #1556724

    nine nine nine
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    reds forever, all I try to do is put up some views on Liverpool from the perspective of a non Liverpool fan that may add to the debates on here.

    My recent posts were in response to Sanj1 suggestion that Liverpool should be winning a PL title every three years.

    It is not my intention to lecture anyone and if that’s how it’s come across I’m clearly not expressing myself very well.

    As I’ve always said I’m very conscious that I’m merely a guest on the Liverpool site and if you or anyone else on here feels less than comfortable with my contributions and seemingly you do then I’ll gladly stop putting them forward.

    I do always try and give a balanced view as the extracts from my recent posts on here below I hope highlight.

    ” I think that with 3 or 4 of the right signings Liverpool are likely to be genuine title challengers going forwards.”

    “Bob, don’t get me wrong mate as I have said on here on a number of occasions previously with 3 or 4 key signings Liverpool will be true title challengers imo it’s just how strong City are and will continue to be with a great Coach and untouchable spending and how much Mourinho will throw at it every Summer”

    “I’m not knocking Liverpool by the way because even as current Champions I also can’t see when Chelsea might win a PL title again.”

    “If Klopp can overcome and coach out some of the defensive frailties along with strengthening in the areas that need strengthening then I can see him potentially winning at least one PL title during his tenure.” Cheers 999

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    Sanj1
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    Nine, I said challenging to win the title once every three years, not winning it once every 3 years, but if LFC can win it once every three years I’m sure I will expect them to challenge to win it every year. Cheers ☺

    #1556773

    redsforever
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    Nine , keep on posting.. more posters makes this forum lively n busy

    #1556807

    nine nine nine
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    Sanji, to be fair what you actually said was “We should be challenging with the possibility of winning it at least 1 season in 3 imho.”

    But let’s not debate the nuances of the your words far more interesting is why you feel Liverpool should be in with the possibility of winning the title at least 1 season in 3 given where Liverpool are now compared the combined strengths both squad wise and at least in terms of the Manchester club’s resources wise across all of City,United, Spurs and Chelsea?

    #1556811

    nine nine nine
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    reds forever, this is the best club site on this forum imo and I enjoy chewing the cud on Liverpool with all ot you, but I will always come at Liverpool topics from a slightly different angle than a Liverpool fan.

    I truly don’t want to cause any upsets on here and I’m always conscious of the fact that I’m merely a guest on this site too.Cheers 999

    #1556893
    Number8wasgr8
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    nine I can’t see a title challenge any time soon for us so your not the lone ranger there mate. The reality is we can’t compete financially with the manc clubs, the stability & balance the spuds have or the squad depth your lot have. We are a chance of top 4 & that’s about it. We have around the 5th or 6th best squad in the EPL & will probably finish in those positions. That’s not just being negative or me hoping I’ll be proved right (I want us to win every game just like all LFC supporters do), that’s the reality of our situation.
    Keep your very balanced opinions coming mate, they are valuable to this site.

    #1556895

    nine nine nine
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    Number8, Cheers buddie. I’ll try to.

    #1556980
    Sanj1
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    Nine, because we are Liverpool FC & that’s what we should be doing. The fact we aren’t won’t be lost on supporters for many more seasons.

    #1557028

    nine nine nine
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    Sanji, I don’t want to upset anybody on here but what Liverpool achieved in the 70’s and 80’s means nothing now and there should be no sense of entitlement because of what was achieved by Liverpool back then and “because we’re Liverpool” just doesn’t cut it mate.

    Liverpool are a long way behind City who have much bigger financial resources, United too are significantly stronger financially, Spurs have a stronger squad than Liverpool and have finished above Liverpool in the last couple of seasons and Chelsea also probably have a stronger squad and have won 2 out of 3 of the last three PL titles all of which makes “We should be challenging with the possibility of winning it at least 1 season in 3 imho.” a nice dream but very very unlikely.

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