Diego 'Class A's' Maradona

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  • #1653352
    Stuilse
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    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11426115/diego-maradona-says-colombia-suffered-a-monumental-robbery-against-england

    The mind boggles. Seems the filthy, deluded idiot has been on the crackpipe again. The only monumental robbery that took place was Diego emptying a huge cache of Moscow’s finest white powder……

    #1653423

    NotoriousBingo
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    I can´t talk about Maradona, he is sponsored by cocaine, just the pure discussion about him on a public forum scares me. What an embarrassment he is to the nation of Argentina!

    On the subject of football, that was one of the most ugliest matches I´ve seen at the World Cup and I´m not only blaming Colombia.

    I can´t blame the ref, he could have set the tone and sent of whoever for the headbutt on Henderson and kinda ruined the match but nobody was innocent on that field, the ref even kept his cool and yellow carded Henderson for the same offense.

    I think it was a fair game even though England scored a somewhat dubious penalty and it took penalties to decide the match but I would have liked to seen the fair play rule used instead of the spot-kicks.

    Senegal went out on fair play… Why did they not get to hit the spot to slug it out? Double standards by FIFA IMHO.

    #1653475

    nine nine nine
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    Bingo. you’ve lost the plot mate with your anti England bias. All drawn games in the knock out stages of the World Cup are settled by penalties going back decades!!!!

    #1653479

    NOLU
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    NotoriousBingo – I was almost taking your post seriously until you said “dubious penalty”
    Good trolling though !!!

    #1653621

    NotoriousBingo
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    Nolu… No trolling here mate, I said a dubious penalty because my stepfather did not agreee with the call. He thought Kane had started wrestling with the defender. I was rooting for you guys but I standby what I said about the shootout. Fair play is a much better rule!

    #1653625

    nine nine nine
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    The penalty given against Columbia was probably one of the most nailed on penalties you will ever get to see and fair play was only applicable to be used as the very last resort to split teams that were equal on points and goals scored and conceded in the Group stages.

    This is a football tournament and it should as far as possible be decided by football on the field of play not by fair play which is why penalty shootouts have always been used to seperate teams that can’t be separated over 120 mins plus in the World Cup as well as the CL etc etc etc!

    Also given that Columbia recieved 6 yellow cards v England alone had it been settled on fair play it would have fallen England’s way anyway!

    Penalty shoot outs aren’t perfect but they are a lot more perfect than using fair play imagine Croatia being crowned World Champions over Brazil because they couldn’t be separated after 120 mins plus of a World Cup Final but they had two less yellow cards than Brazil!

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    NotoriousBingo
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    of course you are gonna think it was a nailed on penalty kick but I´m not gonna argue about what the ref did.

    Penalty kicks have only been used since 1982 at the finals and there was a debate about what should be used. The other possibilities included fair play, shots on goal, corners, possession etc.

    I can actually imagine Croatia being crowned World Champions because they committed less fouls than Brazil in the final. I´m certain it would clean up the game of dives for example. Imagine Brazil losing the World Cup because Neymar took a dive, karma comes to mind.

    So you don´t think it is double standards that Colombia vs England is decided by penalties after both teams finish the match tied on goals and points, while Senegal are dumped out on fair play when they are tied on goals and points with Japan?

    And yeah, England would have gone through on the fair play rule, as they did not kick and dive as much as the Colombians.

    #1653657

    nine nine nine
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    Bingo, there’s not even an iota of doubt it wasn’t a penalty for England v Columbia and I’ve not seen one report from anyone anywhere that disagrees with that.

    Up to 1982 there were replays and even the drawing of lots to decide who should go through. Penalties remain the most sensible way of separating two teams after 120 minutes plus and I would take corners and possesion over fair play because like penalties they are all football based.

    You’re mixing up Group games with Knock out games and Senegal and Japan were playing in different games so clearly there couldn’t be a penalty shoot out between them and the rules where clear to all before the World Cup Finals commenced that Group positions if tied would be decided by fair play in the event of two teams finishing on the same points and goals scored and conceded whilst Knock out games should they finish drawn after 120 minutes plus would be decided by a penalty shoot out.

    So no I don’t think it’s double standards.

    What are double standards though is you only going on about this following the England game and not following the Spain v Russia game that took place two days earlier and finished in a penalty shoot out!

    Can’t think why that would be!😊

    #1653661

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    I´m not mixing things up mate, I want the same rule for both the group stages and the knockouts, not having the same rule is by definition double standards.

    The reason being I´m going over this now is because this was the ugliest match at the World Cup. I would quite happily have seen whoever got the lesser cards advance on fair play from the Russia vs Spain tie.

    #1653662

    nine nine nine
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    Bingo, so why didn’t you raise all this after the Spain v Russia game played on the Sunday with exactly the same circumstances and only raised it after the England game played two days later? And then two days after the game too.

    I’m struggling to think why that would be if that is what you really thought?😊

    And your whole argument on fair play deciding the England v Columbia game is negated by the fact that given Columbia got 6 yellow cards in the game v England alone Columbia would have been eliminated anyway had fair play been utilised and rightly so even their Coach shoulder charged Sterling as he came off the pitch at ht.

    Justice was done all round on Tuesday night and how Columbia ended up keeping eleven players on the pitch I will never know.

    #1653670
    Stuilse
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    Bingo….seriously bru how on earth can u question the validity of that penalty? I’m a Saffa, and irrespective of who was playing, that was a penalty a million times over. Their had been penalty box WWE stylee defending by the Colombians before the incident. Even a biased ref would have had to give it.

    Couple of things. Group games are based on points accumulation. Knockouts are strictly results based…there has to be a winner. Penalties however unfortunate are the only way one can gain a result unless u plan to increase extra time until a decisive or golden goal is scored. Secondly England deserved to win that game on all fronts. They were the side who tried to play football and up until the 93rd no it’s, were the better team. They aren’t the team contesting every referee decision, headbutting opponents, scuffing up penalty spots, getting right in the refs face and having members of their coaching staff shoulder barging opposition players. They tried absolutely everything to disrupt and get under England’s skin. Colombia should have had a red and several more yelliws than the 5 or 6 tgey received. Rather give credit to a young inexperienced English side for keeping their heads and overcoming enormous pressure which sees them through to the quarters.

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    Mate… you are so far off, I don´t have a bias against England… First of all I haven´t even voiced my own opinion about the penalty decision, 2nd I did not want to see England go out and certainly not against Colombia, who were the dirtier team.

    I have already stated three times as to why I am raising the subject of fair play, this was the ugliest match at the World Cup so far! One of the worst I´ve ever seen at the World Cup…

    These kinda tactics would not have been at play if the FAIR PLAY rule would have been used instead of the penalty kicks and it is double standards to have one rule for the group stages and another one for the knockouts or the final!

    Senegal was equal on points and goals, just like England was, Colombia, Spain and Russia but lost out on fair play instead of penalties.

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    D1rtyH4rry
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    It’s technically not double standards, as they are different rounds with different rules. Double standards would be if Russia and Spain had been decided by fair play, but then England v Colombia settled by pens. I doubt they will ever get rid of shootouts, brutal as they are. I for one would not want something like Corners or possession as these stats can be manipulated by poor decisions and dirty tactics, imagine going into extra time and all a team did to win the world cup was pass it across the back line. I would die inside.

    #1653707

    NotoriousBingo
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    Eliminating teams throughout the competition on different set of rules is double standards. The fact that there are different set of rules for different parts of the tournament does not change that, in fact iy verifies what Im stating.

    #1653709

    nine nine nine
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    Bingo, sorry but your first post claimed “England scored a somewhat dubious penalty”. Unfortunately none of us would know that when challenged a day later you would try and claim that it was your Step Father’s opinion and you don’t have an opinion on the England penalty.😊

    You might be right the tactics that we saw from Columbia might have been different had the Fair play rule been in place but it wasn’t and personally I don’t think it should be at the ko stage the Fair Play rule is a last resort rule to split teams in the Group stages when all else has failed to split them.

    Penalty shoot outs are exciting, add to the spectacle and most importantly are skill based from both the penalty takers and the Keepers and are the best way to seperate two teams who are drawing after 120 minutes in the ko stages imo and seemingly in FIFA’s opinion too.

    If your opinion is that utilusing Fair play would be better that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it but I think you’re completely wrong.

    Sadly you seem to be missing the point that the Fair play rule only comes into play when all else has failed to seperate two teams in the Group stages and that is the only way of seperate them.

    But this site is all about different opinions and we will have to agree to disagree particularly as FIFA and indeed UEFA are very unlikely to be changing the penalty shoot out rule anytime soon!

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    D1rtyH4rry
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    Double standards implies teams are begin treated differently or being discriminated against. Any other team in the same shoes as Senegal at the end of the group stage would have suffered the same fate. I can see the argument against penalty shootouts. But I really don’t see this as double standards.

    #1653715

    nine nine nine
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    Me neither Harry.😊

    #1653719

    Devon Hammer
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    I think the coke has cooked Maradonna’s brain if he thinks Columbia were robbed and that it wasn’t a foul on Kane! Mind you, this is coming from a guy who thinks its ok and acceptable to punch the ball into the net!

    Bingo, I’m guessing your country either didn’t qualify for the WC, or got knocked out early. Argentinian by any chance? Yes the game was ugly but you cant blame England for that. Blame the Columbian tactics and the weak referee.

    #1653738

    NotoriousBingo
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    Im blaming FIFA mate 😉

    #1653751
    Stuilse
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    Bingo an Argentinian? Never!! I reckon he’s Irish. Question is whether he’d raise the same argument if Cokeumbia…sorry Colombia had won that penalty shootout. Those are the rules, they apply to all teams. Certainly have zero sympathy for the Colombians being sent packing.

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