Election Debate

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  • #1492305

    bloggy
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    Well still too early to predict but by the look of it this may yet be the perfect result for those of us wishing for a hard Brexit.

    A small majority for the Tory party will allow the leave campaigner’s to continue to hold Theresa May’s feet to the fire and ensure a clean and complete exit from the EU. The worst case scenario would have been a huge majority which would have allowed her to side line the leavers secure in the knowledge that she had a big enough majority of to ignore them. She was after all a remainer herself.

    #1492310

    mufc
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    Joke of a PM. Please just go.

    #1492313
    Dandy
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    Theresa May you buggered it. No clear mandate going forward into Brexit talks, which will now be delayed possibly weakening our position with the EU and the economy generally. Even if she doesn’t resign she’ll go into Brexit talks unelected by the majority.
    Is there a worthy replacement if she resigned? Who would want to get into Brexit talks knowing you’re going to alienate 20m voters whichever way they go.
    Corbyn has my respect as a man in the main but as a leader I wouldn’t trust him with my pocket money. Heck even labour members wanted him out.
    In terms of coalitions, the Libs won’t make that mistake again, they still haven’t recovered their reputation from Clegg’s backsliding. SNP & Labour is a possibility and literally makes me shudder.

    #1492325

    Paxman
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    Bloogy – Got it wrong again, Osbourne has been out this morning and said hard Brexit is now in the bin, hung parliament, nightmare night for May, UKIP, and the right wing. After hearing all about the growth of the right wing across Europe for the last 12 months, they seem to have declined across Europe and been defeated in most places. UKIP zero seats and their leader third in his own constituency 🙂

    #1492326

    Paxman
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    It seems the only way the Tories can get a coalition is to bring the DUP into the fold who are for staying in the single market, for soft borders, and complete anti hard Brexit.

    #1492332

    bloggy
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    Ah well that’s the way democracy works. She called it…she blew it! Labour ran a much better campaign. Interesting times ahead. Onward and upward.

    #1492343

    Paxman
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    I think Sturgeon is getting away without as much criticism as she deserves, as it was only her banging on about indyref2 that lost her 12 seats to the tories, things might have been even worse for May had the SNP retained those seats.

    #1492440
    Johnny Utah
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    The Tories are joining forces with the DUP?

    The DUP are anti women’s rights.

    The DUP are a homophobic party.

    The DUP who are backed by the UDA. A terrorist organisation who shot dead a man in front of his children in a Sainsburies car park a few weeks ago. A packed car park full of families and children.
    The DUP who also formed their own terrorist organisation in the 1980s.
    They are now in an influential position in government.

    Looking forward to the pages of debate on this one.

    #1492441

    gingerlfc
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    What a disastrous night for the conservatives!
    Cameron gambled with a referendum and lost.
    May gambled with a snap election and lost her majority.
    Strong and stable my arse!

    Now they have to cosy up to religious fundamentalists to get themselves across the line. A party who works closely with the terrorist outfit the UDA who only last week shot a man dead in front of his 3yr old. A group who’s main purpose is drug running.

    #1492450
    liquidator
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    Well that was a disappointing result to put it mildly and May is paying for her lacklustre campaign and unimaginative manifesto – and frankly the huge dropped bollock of taking people down to their last £100k to pay for care – hurting her main support base. Still, at least we wont have a Marxist in number 11. I dont know much about the DUP, but hilarious that Johnny and ginger are so quick to condemn the tories for the alleged terrorist links, whilst they didn’t seem at all bothered about Corbyn’s links to those paragons of virtue the IRA.

    #1492453

    gingerlfc
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    No hypocrisy here.
    The IRA didn’t come out and publicly back Corbyn.
    The UDA came out and publicly backed the DUP while shooting people dead only last week.

    But you seem fine with that.

    #1492487
    Al The Gooner
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    At the time, I thought May was right to go to the polls, but seeing how close Labour came to getting in, it maybe wasn’t the best idea after all. Still, let’s count our blessings this sunny day and thank f**k that Corbyn isn’t PM!

    #1492507

    bloggy
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    Same as you Al, I thought she was doing the right thing in calling an election but her campaign was terrible and in fairness I was surprised how good a campaign Labour ran. Mind you its a measure of how much shite Labour are in, in that despite their hugely impressive campaign, and their managing to get the younger voters to turn out in their droves, coupled with possibly the worst campaign ever run by the Tories, they still came up sixty seats short of a win!…One wonders just how badly May would have had to perform to actually lose the election…

    #1492508
    D1rtyH4rry
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    Bloggy – In fairness May did all she could for Labour, it was Corbyns indecision on terrorism and trident that cost him dearly IMO. The previous 2 years of party backstabbing didn’t help either.

    #1492510
    D1rtyH4rry
    D1rtyH4rry
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    All in all a good result for Labour though.

    #1492511
    Wonderfuel Gas
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    So the Tories are now in bed with the IRA? Priceless.

    #1492512

    nine nine nine
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    May got it wrong in calling the Election because she saw an opportunity that has badly misfired, with not pitching up for the Leaders Debate despite it being a Circus Act, in alienating her core support with the Dementia tax, and was badly holed following the two terrible terrorists attacks with the reduction of the Police by 20k on her watch as H.S.

    And despite all of the above Corbyn still couldn’t win. 🙂

    May will try and take the country through to Brexit but I will be surprised if she makes it any further than 2 years and there will be another GE by 2019 if not sooner with another person leading the Tory Party.

    #1492519
    D1rtyH4rry
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    9 – An independent review discovered that 3 out of 4 media stories about corbyn were either lying or misleading. A more accurate sum up would be “even with 75% of the countries press behind her, May still lost her majority.” You wanted a credible opposition sir, and you’ve got it.

    #1492526

    bloggy
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    Harry – I wouldn’t argue with either of your earlier posts mate. However I guess the counter balance to press bias might be the BBC’s bias the other way. As to credible opposition…it certainly wouldn’t be a bad thing…

    #1492527

    bloggy
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    Nine – Labour supporters today sound a bit like footy fans expecting their team to get beat 5-0…only getting turned over 3-0…and celebrating like they’d won the league. I guess low expectations has it’s compensations!

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