November 8, 2017 at 11:25 am #1555199
RDP…arent journos supposed to be balanced, fair and tolerant. Clearly not in your case. Resorting to name calling is flipping juvenile as well. If we are all so ignorant, hypocritical, are ‘xxxxx” and carry on like gormless sheep…why on earth do u continue to post on here. This forum is clearly not intellectual enough for u so why not leave. You’ve threatened to leave before.November 8, 2017 at 1:16 pm #1555289
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1905, Cheers mate and I appreciate your wise words above.
As you rightly say we will never all agree and what a boring site it would be if we did.
I think it would be better now if we all moved on from all this angst and focussed on where we go in the future with this from here.
I am sure we can all agree that Michael Elmenalo deserves our thanks for 10 years of Service to the club and to leave with everyone’s best wishes for his future. Cheers 999November 8, 2017 at 2:09 pm #1555324
Stuilse… Fair comment… Your entitled to it… But when I post here I do so as a fan so fairly redundant.
If I had a penny for every time I hear a someone telling me its my job to be fair and balanced… usually with the caveat that what they’re saying is correct. The argument starts like this, Well yeah, the man
And every time someone slags off the press, it is my profession and is an attack on me and many of my sports colleagues who do fact check and verify stories… Lets take the Ire Further down the same road and its a gun in mine or a colleagues face, or a bottle over the head, or being spat at standing in a protest, punched or kicked, or being detained for being an honest reporter. You know what? It’s getting worse.. Sexual assaults and murders of Journalists for being honest on just turning up to cover a protest… or football match.
And the slating off the press on here is also pretty sad to see and read and is condescending to the likes of Marshy who do a grand job corralling the masses on here.
And yeah, I’ll let you with wise fan and Phwepsi chap… Enjoy drinking from the swamp aid with those two. Ta ta for now.November 8, 2017 at 2:17 pm #1555330
Chelsea67.. Raising a glass to honour you chap.November 8, 2017 at 2:53 pm #1555346
RDP, what the hell are you on about? Dont know where you are going but hope you find your marbles when you get there.
Journalists killed for attending football matches? What the hell has this nonsense got to do with anything?November 8, 2017 at 3:16 pm #1555362
I have nothing bad to say about him. he has been a great servant for this club. and under his stewardship we have signed some of the best players in our history. Hazard, Costa,Fabregas,Matic,Kante,Azpi,Courtois,Pedro,Luiz ( second spell ), Christensen, Morata, Willian, Moses, Alonso and Bakayoko. all of these players had been a great signing. and in the period that he was in charge no club has signed more good players than us. in that regard i wish him well. although i sometimes frustrated with our transfers like any other Chelsea fan. but at the end of the day he has done some good job for the club. its up to the club to build on those solid foundations.November 8, 2017 at 4:01 pm #1555408
9 I would rather reserve my thanks to him for leaving 🙂November 8, 2017 at 4:49 pm #1555434
999, yes it was a big step to take for Emenalo, but you have to credit the club for recognising his potential and giving him a chance. If only we could do that with some of our younger players…..PaganNovember 8, 2017 at 4:56 pm #1555438
RDP…I cannot comment on your journo credentials as I’ve never read any of your reports or heard any of your interviews. If you cover trouble spots and warzones then you’re a brave man. If you’re a decent reporter…even better. As in all professions there are good uns and lowlife scum….like that lot who work for the S*n.
My point is your career and credentials have nothing to do with what u post on this footy forum. I thought you overreacted, were over sensitive and unnecessarily abusive…because of a thread opinion that most of us disagreed with. Maybe you had s crappy day…week…i don’t know. Anyway you’re usually a decent poster so obviously something…besides us, has set u off.
Your choice to leave bru…be a pity over something as trivial as this.November 8, 2017 at 6:14 pm #1555464
Pagan, i dont follow the logic here, comparing the appointments of DOF’s to that of players and coaches is folly, its apples and oranges.
Surely you see the logic in nines opinion that going from coaching high school to senior position at elite football club like chelsea is a very strange appointment that could not have been based on merit. If emenalo turned out to be a good appoinment it was more luck than intelligent recruitment as I am not sure what we could “see in him” that would make him the rational choice at the time.
I appreciate all the different perspectives on this thread but I dont know anyone can claim we were better for having him or that we would have been better without him.
Personally I dont care, he is gone and like any player in recent times imo was succesful as a result of being at chelsea.
Never mind pagan, thousands of high schools in US for us to find a qualified replacement 🙂November 8, 2017 at 6:44 pm #1555472
LD, Christmas is coming, try putting sense of humour on your list, you never know you might get lucky. That’s another joke just in case you missed that one as well.
However some of what I say is true, we do need to have a go at giving potential a chance. Someone at the club recognised that potential, not all good judgements are based on luck.
As for him coming from a youth football background to help develop an academy, there is some logic in that, after all development should be bottom up, don’t develop the now, develop the future.
Incidentally I see a fair number of coaches, and some of the more successful ones at badge clubs aren’t the best coaches, they just use the badge to attract the better players. Others have lesser players and get amazing results from them…PaganNovember 8, 2017 at 6:59 pm #1555479
ha ha pagan. I thought the sarcasm was obvious regarding the players, guess Lucky missed it or chose to ignore it.November 8, 2017 at 7:00 pm #1555480
Lol pagan, i recognised the humour in your words, just didnt realise it was intentional 😉
Now I know not all good judgements are based on luck, and I know experience of youth develpoment is essential to developing youth (although that took a bit longer to work out)
The main point however was already made by yourself in prev post, the next DOF has to have experience in identifying and developing elite footballers, or at least the ability to attract them, the point is that this is evidently not the same criteria applied when emenalo became DOF.
I will not argue against anyone who insists emenalo was an inspired appoinment though, because I could neither prove the claim or refute it.November 8, 2017 at 7:13 pm #1555486
LD, exactly Emenalo, did exceptionally well as far as probably his talent could take him, the academy and youth set ups are established now, and now was the right time for him to go and for someone who can now get the youth to take that final step to take over, I would say that would be a far harder challenge, without diminishing the effort taken to get where we currently are.
Who that person could be I have no idea, but there’s a lot of clubs out there looking for someone who can do that
On another note, must take note of how you post and use emojis to help clarify my posts….PaganNovember 8, 2017 at 7:44 pm #1555498
Lol, you’re too classy and secure to need emoji’s pagan, dont lower yourself to my level out of courtesy 🙂
while we cant really tell how emenalo contributed over last ten years, your argument that length of service alone suggests he was doing a good job is valid, whether we would appreciate his work or not, for 10 years roman kept him so roman was getting what he wanted. As this is his club I respect it and as nine says sincerely we should thank emenalo and now look forward.
Personally would love a drogba or lampard for many emotional reasons backed by a few rational ones, love and knowledge of club – understanding of pressures players face at elite level and therefore an understanding of the attributes needed to succeed and most importantly they could attract players who would all be in awe of what was achieved by the DOF while he was playing.November 8, 2017 at 8:08 pm #1555508
LD, that’s a good point regarding ex players knowing about the pressures, frustrations, and patience required by young players, and I can see where that would come in, we also need to couple that in with parent/agent liaison, which I see as one of the major problems, everyone wants everything now, short term at the expense of longevity…PaganNovember 8, 2017 at 8:16 pm #1555509
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It would really be best if we all forget about Emenalo now we will never get agreement as to the true value of Emenalo’s contribution to Chelsea good bad or indifferent.
Elmenalo has gone now and we need to focus on where we go from here which is currently anybody’s guess.November 8, 2017 at 8:32 pm #1555518
Pagan,The impatience you describe is indeed a problem, everyone seems to want it all now, all the club can do is curb its own impatience though, that starts with roman.
A contract extension for conte is all I really hope for in short term, and then as long as the next DOF can provide the players conte needs I couldnt care who he is or what his last job was.
I think the coach deserves a promotion to manager.November 8, 2017 at 9:03 pm #1555527
LD, I think the days of a manager have long gone, the players need far too much looking after nowadays, long gone are the days where it was an honour to play for a big club, and there were only minor problems to sort out. Now it seems it’s a honour for the clubs to allow top players to wear their shirt.
What we need is stability with everyone working in unison, with a common vision, a seamless organisation where you can’t see any joints between the academy and the owner. Obviously the only downside to that is we’d all come on here and have to be constantly cheerful….PaganNovember 9, 2017 at 5:29 am #1555557
LD I must still be half asleep I am sure for a few moments you said patience starts with a woman, as far as I know about Emenalo I dont really know cause you hear so many conflicting stories you not sure what to beleive. Nigerians are or were proud of his position at Chelsea if you occasionally read their football tabloids. Really hope that Leonid Slutsky does not get the job, he looks like a loser.
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