Emery Out-Rodgers In

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    steve68
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    emery has lost the plot at afc and needs to be replaced ASAP.we
    can’t even defend a 2 goal lead and we look like we are going
    backwards under emery.he makes crappy xhaka capt and now takes
    him off in the last two games in which xhaka acted like the cry
    baby he his when being replaced today.hope it’s the last time we
    see him in an afc shirt.two points dropped and i’d rather have
    wenger back cause at least we created chances and more or less
    beat the lesser teams.rodgers has done wonders at leichester and
    they are a much better team than us right now.emery is more clueless
    than wenger and i don’t we stand any chance of top 4 right now.

    #1794576

    the bsm walk
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    Not Xhaka’s biggest fan by any means but I thought the crowds reaction and his reaction was awful. Although Xhaka really needs to look in the mirror. Can’t see any way back for him to be frank. This Arsenal team is in such a bad way, no balance no discipline no anything. A legitimate goal ruled out but would have papered over the cracks anyway.

    #1794580

    T_Adams
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    I agree both reactions were poor. He could have done more to block the cross but he didn’t have a very bad game to get a reaction like that. He also shouldn’t have responded. One thing I am struggling to understand, shouldn’t it be the manager that picks the captain and not the players?
    To those that are saying it’s the players fault, one thing is clear and that’s Emery doesn’t know how to drill a defense. I am certain other managers would organise this defense better. I can’t see us throwing away leads like this under other managers like Rodgers.
    It’s also important to remember that our football was very poor near the end under Wenger. We kept doing little sideways passes until we lost the ball. At least we are creating more now but off the ball our defending seems to have become worse if that’s even possible.

    #1794584

    the bsm walk
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    Adams, whilst he never had the worst game (if that’s such a compliment) he never did enough, and never does. He’s supposed to be good at passing and sustaining attacks and doesn’t do it anywhere enough. He plays a few good passes every so often and that does not merit a starting birth in our team, absolutely not.

    #1794585

    steve68
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    bsm.don’t know if it’s true but xhaka(allegedly) told a fan to
    f**k off.if true he should be sacked has capt and thrown out
    of the door asap.a disgrace to the club who should never have
    been capt in the first place.

    #1794592

    T_Adams
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    Xhaka shouted f**k off more than once to the fans. I think the fans got frustrated as he was walking off slowly.

    #1794595

    T_Adams
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    BSM, that’s true but the reaction of the fans was over the top. I for one think he is not good enough and should be now where near this team. He has a poor attitude too but didn’t deserve that reaction.

    #1794596

    the bsm walk
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    I never like fans booing players, Adams. However, you can understand fans frustrations and maybe the only way they wanted to get their point across was to do this. Still, I don’t like it and Emery like I said has a lot to answer for.

    #1794598
    the specialone
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    There is absolutely nothing “class” about this club.There really isn’t.I’ve had it upto here with just about everyone blaming the same personel,over and over and over again.I think the fans are equally to blame.And they’re no worse than the actual culprits.

    Xhaka’s reaction unproffessional no doubt(being a captain),it was understandable.The fans have been against that his appointment as a captain from day one.Mind you,emery took a vote from all the players and it turns out the majority picked xhaka.So why the hell do the fans care about who should be captain?Tell me,is he leading the fans.Or is he leading the players?Constantly booing the captain of the club?Where is the class?Aren’t you supposed to respect the decisions of the club?and especially the players!?!?!

    Why was he being booed off?He didn’t have the worst game.I’ll tell you why,it’s scapegoatism.They just need that one person to shoulder the blame.Again,as a captain one of the most important things is to maintain your calm.But players are human,and the constant booing and criticism really got to him.

    Remember one thing,As a player.It’s your duty to give your all.I speak solely in terms of attitude.I’ve seen nothing to doubt xhaka of that.
    So the fans booing the captain of the club just because they want to vent their frustration at someone is embarrasing.

    I say it again,there is nothing class left about this club.If there was,it’s gone.

    #1794601

    the bsm walk
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    If there is nothing class about this club TSO, then go and support the racists on the other side of the river. There’s many things classy about Arsenal, that wasn’t one of best demonstrations to support my point I’ll give you that.

    #1794603
    the specialone
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    BSM – Why the hell is there this presumption that “fans know it all”.i’m sick of it.I mean tell me,if the fans really think they know what’s best for the team.Why don’t they bloody take up the job as a serious proffession.

    “However, you can understand fans frustrations and maybe the only way they wanted to get their point across was to do this.”

    This right here,why are fans arguing as to who should’ve been captain when it’s THE PLAYERS who’ve chosen the captain.The players are the ones being led,they know what’s going on in the dressing room.The fans have been against the xhaka appointment since day one.

    You know today,you want to av a go at emery.fine.Personally,I don’t think there are many “available” managers that can do that much better.

    But I’m sick of somehow making today into a “Xhaka show”.

    If anyone on here sersiously thinks that he’s solely to blame and not the “fans”,then you guys seriously lack empathy.if you were in his position and constantly being booed,you’d have done the same.don’t try and kid yourselves.
    Remember,it’s the fans who started it.

    #1794609

    the bsm walk
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    I probably would have been the same, but guess what TSO I don’t have the luxury of being paid £120k a week to come to the emirates stadium.

    Why do you think this is just based on the fact that he’s being made captain he’s being booed? Maybe because he plays poorly and that’s why he’s being booed?

    You talk about ‘available’ how do you know who’s available until you try and test the waters. Irrespective of that, at the end of the day Emery’s record is worse than Wengers, my point is the whole point to change managers was to try and change our record, nothing has improved and when we lose Auba and Laca (which we will if we carry on like this) what hope will we have left?

    #1794626
    the specialone
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    Oh,I’ve said it all.Again,the quality factor comes up again.I’ve defended him as a player million times,from all possible angles.I’ve even listed stats/facts to prove it.He’s not being utlised to his strengths,because right now it would seem he’s the deepest lying midfielder.I said last game,that emery is just shooting himself in the foot by playing the same comibination of guendozi and xhaka over and over and over again.

    Anyways,this is about the incident.And I defend him yet again for that reaction.You boo a player for poor attitude not because he’s not good enough.Fans have been doing it to him since forever.T

    These are the same people that want the biggest fraud to ever play for the club mesut ozil to be played even though time and again the 350k a week nonse has proved to be unreliable.

    Mesut ozil and Xhaka – You could’nt get two more clearer examples of Favouritism and Scapegoatism.

    #1794627
    the specialone
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    You know what’s the funniest part amongst all of this,when we had wenger fans wanted to see another manager because they deemed him not to do a good enough job.Personally,I didn’t think so,I didn’t think he was underacheiving.Just a poor mentality,but the same boring and predictable style of play.
    Now we have emery,I don’t think he’s underachieving and fans still want him out.

    I see a bunch of impatient kids who don’t really know what they want and can’t even realise that it’s the owners who are the most at fault.

    You want ambition?It has to come from them.Just like Jose Mourinho said recently when asked about Arsenal.

    But if you’re ready to accept the position of the owners(lack of ambition) and therefore the club.Then the fans should just sit back and keep quiet instead of asking to sack managers every other year.For me,Unless a manager is underachieving,there should be no grounds to sack him.

    #1794628

    muffler_1
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    So you are happy with what Emery is producing then?

    #1794680

    Gooner54
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    I think it should be remembered that, “One leads by example”. The fans are fans, no more than that. However, they pay to come and see the team play. They pay for merchandise that provides money. Their interest promotes the club in the advertising market and following hooks the media coverage revenue. The club lives on this, thus cannot be ignored.
    We all are fans in some way of Arsenal, that’s why we’re here, and not on the other teams pages.
    This was the captain of Arsenal, his behaviour, is a mirror of the team. Being taken off, for whatever reason is the managers prerogative. If he has a problem, it should be discussed with him. To act in such a manner, even with the poor provocation from the fans (sic).Is not acceptable. To respond, shows he lacks the maturity for the position. That he captains a national side, even more so. He should know better.
    There are obviously, more things, going on in the club. I hope we can survive this. Although I’m not sure. As stated in another thread, Time for meat cleaver. It cannot go on. The club cannot, and will not improve, in its present condition.
    GFL.

    #1794775
    the specialone
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    Gooner54 – That right there,the fans are fans,nothing more than that.This is the most important phrase spoken for a while not.Yes,the truth is that Fans essentially do make up a football club,but it dosen’t give us the right to do whatever we want.
    I’m sick of the houlier than thou know it all attitude.Let’s not kid ourselves,we don’t support the club to do a “favour” to do them.We do it because it brings us joy,because we love the sport,we live for the thrill and the entertainment.Again,we’re not doing them a favour.It’s an inner feeling,and no one of forcing you to do anything.

    I think fans must know their place.The thing is that footballers get paid a lot of money,and the pressure is the baggage that comes along with it.But you also have to remember they’re human.Xhaka’s reaction yesterday was completely human,tbh I don’t even blame him.It was not a reaction to one instance,this guy has been targeted,scapegoated,booed more than several times.It’s an accumulation of all of that.If I were in his position I’d have done the same.He could’ve done worse.As a proffessional it’s also imporant to maintain your cool no matter but there’s a limit to everything.

    Also the most important point and I’ve said it already but it needs to be said again.You boo a player because of a poor attitude on the pitch or a lack of commitment,not because “you think” he “lacks the quality”.If you have a problem with that,do it at the end of the game,and direct it to the one who’s picking him.
    That behaviour yesterday I feel was more disgraceful from the section of fans that booed him.As a fellow gooner,I find it embarrasing.

    #1794785
    AndyC
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    TSO, he got booed for exactly that yesetrday. his lack of attitude, he shrugged his shoulders slowly walked off the pitch sulking. It wasnt until he was half way through walking off that he got booed, due to him delaying us bringing on someone with a threat. He brought that on himself. one player who i admire alot but think is limited as a player is Jordan Henderson. Do you see him sulk off at being subbed? no, not ever. He knows its about the team not himself. if you want to see how a captain behaves on the pitch even with fans on his back(which henderson has had) then just look up north to pool. Doesnt moan, puts teh shift in, grafts for the team. thats a captain. Funnily enough we do actually have player with similar traits in Guendouzi. i’d rather see him captain than Xhaka.

    He is a terrible captain, you point to the majority vote but what if that ‘majority vote’ was by only 1, you dont know so stop making out like the whole team voted for him. who knows the vote could have been complete BS and Emery just chose who he wanted an hid behind the players ‘vote’
    You then start telling people how you hate the holier than though attitude the irony of that is unbelievable. for you of all people to say that hahaha.

    Im still giving Emery til the end of the season, alot of football to be played, however if you said to me tomorrow hes been sacked and one of Allegri, Rogers or even Vieira has taken the role i wouldnt be upset. i wanted Rogers befor Emery but hey ho. I’d even be happy if you said Moreen was coming in, never thought i would say that.
    Emery has one of the hardest jobs in football, taking over from someone who had managed a club for 20+ years! i do feel sorry that he inherited what he did, but at same time he isnt helping himself at all. and yes picking Xhaka to play let alone be captain is one of the things letting him down.

    #1794798
    the specialone
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    Andy- That’s absolute bullshit.And It’s clear as daylight that you’re saying those things to feed the agenda.You didn’t need to be in the stadium to trigger what fed the reaction.Against Aston villa,when xhaka was taken off he ran to the touchline,mind you he was booed than as well.Yesterday,As soon as his name came up there was a loud sarcastic cheer on the ground that triggered him.I mean why the bloody hell are the fans cheering when the captain is subbed off?That was then followed by booes because at the time xhaka had lost it then.

    Don’t try and kid yourself,having the fans constantly against you espescially your appointment as a captain,you’d have the same reaction sooner or later.This was the second and only? time he was subbed off at an inconvinient time and booed.

    As for him being named captain,yet again the same nonsense again.For goodness sake,there are various players such as holding who’s come out and said he’s fit to captain.The Vote is not bullshit,do you honestly think emery would make something up like that in the open.Yesterday,torreira cried for his captain.

    Serisouly Andy,you need to take a long hard look at what you’re saying.You dislike xhaka(which is pretty clear),dosen’t mean you have to make up stuff to feed that agenda.

    That was a piss poor reaction from the fans,they can’t call themselves supporters.It was unproffessional of xhaka as well but no one said captains are not humans as well.It was an accumulation of everything that triggered the reaction.And most of all,the sub was made with half hour to go.In a time where the club and ALL the players genuinely needed support,you hear sarcastic cheers.Need i remind you torreira creid during the incident.What should that be ignored as well?

    Moans and groans from a bunch of spoilt brats,I find it embarrasing.

    #1794800
    steveosnakeeye
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    the only embarssment for an Arsenal fan is you TSO as ever

    as ever you have an opposing view to ALL other fans and attack them

    you and the way you post make me ashamed to be an arsenal fan end of

    dont worry with your reply it wont be read, i only read a few posts on here and they are not yours on the whole, your myopic views and attacks on other fans show you for who you are as a person

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