July 12, 2021 at 2:54 pm #1971633
“England should never be a host nation of a major football tournament again.”
Very few if any countries in the world have the infrastructure to host these events without bankrupting the country, so our time will come again whether the St George slayers want it or not. Saying England should never host a tournament again doesn’t feel like a very objective or helpful thing to say.
Though I agree the actions of England’s fans is deplorable, it is very reflective of our current government and their dog whistle socially divisive politics, which has enabled and emboldened racists and thugs to speak their minds and do as they please in the name of patriotism.July 12, 2021 at 3:03 pm #1971636
Wonderfuel Gass you claim the English fans have been great that leaves me to wonder where you’ve been watches the Euros certainly couldn’t have been at Wembley.July 12, 2021 at 3:28 pm #1971638
I’m like most fair minded football fans whichever country they might reside or wherever their loyalties might lie am appaled by the racial abuse aimed at the three young lads on social media who took the penalties and some of the thuggery that went on from some so called England fans yesterday and I am supportive of anyone calling out those responsible for it.
However one or two on here have been involved in covert racism against England or anything English for a number of days now and it needs to cease for the overall good of the site.
You’re words and actions are in danger of inflaming the situation on the site and if it continues as a moderator I will have no hesitation in strongly petitioning James to review this thread and take whatever actions he thinks appropriate to put an end to it.
Hopefully that will be not be neccessary and common sense will prevail.July 12, 2021 at 5:27 pm #1971671
Might add nine nine nine that that there is some absolute uninformed nonsense being written. From people who have clearly never watched a game in Italy, Turkey, Russia, Holland or Croatia – all places where I have felt in genuine fear of my life, not just had a song booed.
I remember in Zagreb one cold autumn night their firm (army) marched past the cafe I was having a drink in before the game and i swear it took about five minutes for them all to pass…and every single one of the buggers looked like Tyson Fury!
So stop with your cliched stereotypes you tedious little welps…the behaviour of some England fans was unacceptable, some things that happened last night were unforgivable. But they go on the whole world over except in boring Iceland and England fans in general are a credit to the country.
That is coming from a Manchester United fan who doesn’t have that much time for international football.July 12, 2021 at 5:36 pm #1971675
999 nobody has said anything out of line even though i haven’t read all of gas comments…
Making excuses instead of pointing out the bad behaviour is not the way to go…
Its just a tiny minority here that believes that…
We all want the same thing but enough is enough, if a mate of yours performs violence during a football game you shouldn’t be friends with that person…
Everyone that steps over the line should be scolded and humiliated publicly for being such a asshole…
Thats the power we have as fans… we can stop this kinda behaviour in an instant if we stick together against it… instead of making excuses and pointing the fingerJuly 12, 2021 at 5:45 pm #1971678
As I said Bingo in my post the guilty should be called out and the first paragraph of my last post clearly did that “I’m like most fair minded football fans whichever country they might reside or wherever their loyalties might lie am appaled by the racial abuse aimed at the three young lads on social media who took the penalties and some of the thuggery that went on from some so called England fans yesterday and I am supportive of anyone calling out those responsible for it.” but not a whole nation and there’s been an anti England anti English agenda on here from some that predates what happened yesterday!
“Do not post purely to antagonise others. The forum is meant to sensibly debate football, not point score against your team’s rivals. – Racism or any other form of discrimination will result in an instant and permanent ban.”.
My two posts are the final word from me on it all the rules of the site are very clear see above and if things carry on in the previous vein I will turn it over to James Marshment for him to arbitrate on the thread as a whole.July 12, 2021 at 6:16 pm #1971680
The wrong approach would be to shut this criticism down, nobody here posts purely to antagonise others purely…
Gas… I dont see your problem, your problem with this criticism doesnt compute for me… its just so absurd, it doesnt matter if other fans are guilty of the same…
You should never point the finger as an excuse, its so easy to avoid violence… you just step away and condemn it!July 12, 2021 at 7:46 pm #1971703
You don’t understand the irony of your own racism
Insinuating all English are the same or a majority
Happily glossing over all the other nations similar or worse acts
This isn’t a national thing it’s a numpty thing and it doesn’t matter what country you’re born in or what colour you are you can still be one
Why don’t you both run back to the pages of your English football teams with the English fans and post about the English clubs you “love” on a site about English football
You’d think we all posted like those idiots acted
999 you rest up me old mate someone who started chemo just a couple of days ago shouldn’t have to police anything seriously dude you just rest up
Should probably say the same for you uncle Tommy 😁July 12, 2021 at 9:12 pm #1971716
Oh no….i am very sorry nine, I had no idea at all. Thinking of you my friend…be strong, look after yourself and keep positive. You don’t need advice or preaching from me though, just know good people are thinking of you.July 12, 2021 at 9:48 pm #1971721
God Bless you Gas and thanks for your kindness. You too Stevo.July 13, 2021 at 9:30 am #1971787
Hats off to Southgate. Creating dummy accounts and racially abusing his own players, in order to deflect attention away from the result.July 13, 2021 at 11:15 am #1971831
Anyone keep a record how many times Kane and Stirling fall down during the Euros I think they may be up for awards!!July 13, 2021 at 11:30 am #1971836
Yet more anti British sentiment? Do you not get you are part of the problem you so vociferously harp on about?
Yes both dive as all fans have called them on at club level for many years like many others
Including at your supposed “beloved United”
What about the Italians diving, feigning injury or WWE defensive moves
The Spanish even outdid the Italians in their game
But no let’s just mention the English straight after a final loss?
You sir are a 1st class bigot and all round twat
I don’t say it because you’re not English I say it because you are a twat and as previously mentioned that’s universalJuly 13, 2021 at 1:25 pm #1971872
I dont wanna nail this in more, its just sad for the young guns there…
You guys got one of the more talented sides out there right now…
This generation has way more promise than the so called golden one and everything is overshadowed by the actions of the few…
Its not just about the standard of football, cause players such as Rashford have managed to cross the divide between United and Liverpool… He gets a standing ovation at anfield for being a good person
Thats what football is about, or at least in my opinion… and im pretty sure Trent and Daka lead by example too…
I dont have any allegiance to them but they are such good lads I can’t help but root for them…
BTW FIFA is rumoured to be thinking about dismissing the English bid for the 2030 tournament because of this…
Instead of going for the fans, I strongly suggest cleaning up your FA… They are getting lawsuits against themselves for not providing enough safety features, not enough stewards etc…July 13, 2021 at 1:48 pm #1971878
Same can be said after any pointless acts of hooliganism and bas behaviour
Such as Liverpool fans attacking coaches of other teams as city fans and others have done
People should stand up abs deplore it
When violence and the like happens in other countries even if not directed at brits we don’t call the entire nation racists or thugs or dislike the country
Bit of fairness would be nice lads
France Germany Holland and so many other nations all have these elements in society often centred around football
It’s not a one nation or one FA issue it’s w global issueJuly 13, 2021 at 2:00 pm #1971881
Of course not the whole nation but you guys have got to admit that you have a bigger problem with hooligans than any other nation on the planet…
And it seems to be getting worse again…
I applaud all the players right now that are calling out every politician that has not even backed them in taking the knee… Who have actively backed the hooligans that are booing them for taking the knee…
You got those glorified muppets sending support now… thankfully the lads are having none of it ♥️July 13, 2021 at 2:15 pm #1971891
Bingo – Russia would give us a run for our money surely?July 13, 2021 at 2:31 pm #1971902
No I don’t admit that I think we have a freer press and are a bigger news story globally
We do have problems tho and bees to deal with then like all nationsJuly 13, 2021 at 3:12 pm #1971928
I wish the English will stop comparing their violence to every other country it does not camouflage english behaviour I think the big problem is you have so much violence you just don’t recognise it any longer. Steveosnakeeye probably the worst insult on this forum is calling me a united supporter wonder where you got that from?
I assume you’ve all seen the English team after party photos. England the only team to celebrate a defeat. Why stop there give the entire squad a knighthood. Sir Stirling Sir KaneJuly 13, 2021 at 3:17 pm #1971931
Glad it was an insult you deserve nothing less after your constant insult towards the English
You generalise and you’re wrong and you’re a bigot and a racist
People like you should be banned from the internet and have no anonymity 👏
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