March 19, 2020 at 2:11 pm #1835899
Just read the the suspension of Premier League is extended. Which is IMO the right thing to do considering the gravity of COVID-19 spreading all over the world.
I am intrigued on whether we should continue the season or not. For sure Euro is postponed until 2021. In case that the pandemin ends in 2-3 months, this summer could be used to continue the season: League and Champions League. But it would mean no summer holiday for the players. On no time to conduct transfer businesses, it would be a total chaos on transfers.
Or we could very well just end the season (award the title to Liverpool or not, who would qualify for UCL, who would be relegated etc etc) and start anew as normal the next season.
Anyway just would like to open an enjoy a discussion in this time of uncertainty and chaos. We still don’t know when the virus will stop spreading. Stay safe everybody!March 19, 2020 at 2:52 pm #1835907
Aindro, I don’t disagree with the philosophy of trying to complete the Season if possible but we are now in March and every day now in fact almost every hour the circumstances around Corona Virus changes and the reality is nobody knows how all this is going to work out and when football may be able to resume.
If it for instance gets to September or October or perhaps even later will the football bodies and more importantly the fans Liverpool fans aside still have the same appetite to complete the Season no matter what personally I have my doubts.
“Let’s complete the Season” is a good philosophy today but it may not be such a good philosophy in September or October if we are still struggling to complete the Season.
Nothing is set in stone in these difficult days if we’re still not playing football by September or October perhaps even later which is quite feasible I wonder whether the appetite to complete the season will be as it is today particularly amongst the majority of fans Liverpool fans aside.
As I said it’s a good philosophy but we are heading into the unknown and it all depends on what happens going forwards with the Corona Virus.
At the end of the day given what’s happening in the UK and around the world football and all sport is irrelevant now imo.
This Season feels over for me I don’t really care now where Chelsea might finish or how they progress in the FA Cup my focus is now on everyone staying safe and well that’s what’s important to me now.March 19, 2020 at 5:29 pm #1835928
Agree with you, we don’t know when the pandemic ends. I got the following article: https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4076278/coronavirus-premier-league-extends-suspension-until-april-30
Methinks too starting to lose appetite to continue the season as I would have preferred to start the new season as scheduled. Just it seems that FA would not start the new season until this season is completed.March 19, 2020 at 7:50 pm #1835950
Let Football Manager 2020 sim the rest of the seasonMarch 20, 2020 at 1:42 pm #1836065
such sad and dangerous times we are now suddenly living in.March 20, 2020 at 6:28 pm #1836097
“The Government has told pubs, restaurants, theatres, leisure centres and gyms to close from tonight to fight coronavirus.
Announcing the ramped-up measures on Friday, Boris Johnson warned the public not to “be tempted” into using establishments tonight before they shut.”
Everything closed except essential food shops makes English footballs announcement look even more ridiculous.
We won’t be seeing football anytime soon imo however they try and do it.March 21, 2020 at 9:19 am #1836148
It’s not only health and death issues but also financial, we could all become destitute. I have already lost many thousands of the little I have.March 21, 2020 at 2:20 pm #1836194
The season has to be void. I can’t see it opening again. It has to be treated like it never started in the first place. Very disappointed to read the UK headlines seeing people partying on Friday night and fear grave consequences for the country. The only way soon to control the spread in the uk will be an army lockdown. There will be no football. No lessons are being learnt from China or Italy. I have found the best YouTube sight for understating this whole thing is looking at the daily updates and past videos of An English doctor Dr John Campbell. If you are not following his videos on this outbreak, then I strongly suggest you do. He tells you as it is around the world and offers sound guidance and tipsMarch 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm #1836213
Difficult to see when the Season can restart Chris the news from Italy , Spain and France is awful and it’s not great here and getting worse.
I get the desire to finish the season as a first objective but the way things are nobody has a clue when that will be and if we get to September/October will there be the same desire from the authorities and football fans bar maybe Liverpool fans to get the season finished I saw a survey yesterday from fans which wasn’t even in favour as we stand today.
It’s difficult to conjecture currently but the announcement that Football won’t restart over here before April 30th looks pretty silly now just a few days later and before August 30th might possibly have been more appropriate.
UEFA are the same encouraging teams to cram their Leagues in and setting the dates for the CL and EL Finals at the end of June.
Trying to cram football in somehow in any way just to finish the season with everything that is currently happening doesn’t feel right currently to me especially when nearly all the issues can be settled by freezing the PL with everything else filtering down from there but there does seem that there is a desire to finish the season no matter what currently especially amongst Liverpool fans even though Liverpool would and indeed should be awarded the title based on a frozen league table anyway.
I don’t think anyone can predict when it might be safe to start playing football again but if those in control want to prioritise finishing this season before starting next season I guess that’s what we’ll do albeit probably reluctantly from the majority of the fans viewpoint.
Personally I would go with freezing this season and starting next season as soon as it’s safe which could be a while off imo. Cheers 9’sMarch 21, 2020 at 11:45 pm #1836232
999 I don’t think some realise hi serious this virus is. It is a killer pneumonia, and the way certain countries like the UK are being irresponsible, the outbreak in the UK will be worse than it is in Italy. Italy has one of the best health care systems in the world, and they cannot cope. What chance does the NHS stand? There is no way football is going to be able to restart for months, maybe a a year. It is wrong to freeze the tables for all the divisions as they are. The season needs to be void. Otherwise you set a precedent. Nothing like this has happened before. What would people be saying if Pool for example were leading the table with the same points and the same goal difference, but had scored one more goal that the second placed team, and they still had an away fixture to play the second placid team? The fact Pool are so many points clear os irrelevant. The season has to be void. Further, even if they decided to finish the season, they would have to play games, they would have to be behind closed doors. What message does that send out to the morons who are in the uk papers at the the moment, saying things like “ If I have to go to work, why is the Government stopping me from going to the pub” those same morons will be saying, well if the footballers can all train, play and socialise together, then ai am going to do the same. In this present times it is going to take strong politely leaders to ban public gatherings and impose social distancing. Sorry to sound grim, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.March 22, 2020 at 8:20 am #1836239
The way its going will there even be a next season. They may only play this season finish in 2021 if that.March 22, 2020 at 8:46 am #1836253
Chris, problem is this is so unprecedented I don’t think there is a right answer in all 3 solutions.
Personally I don’t think we should be striving to compete the PL no matter what even if it starts in December but voiding the season which could happen would seem so unfair on Liverpool.
That’s why I prefer the freeze it takes care of Liverpool and most of the other issues too. Sadly I think neither will happen and we will see a forced end of season conclusion even if it doesn’t start until December.March 22, 2020 at 9:59 am #1836266
999 but it is not just about Liverpool. Finalising the season as it stands today is not fair on other teams. Look at all the teams now that had injured players, who when and if the season starts are going to have fully fit squads. Is that right? I don’t think so. Think also of all the punters who have money gambled on where their team finishes. It is tough on Pool, but the season needs to be void. You can’t go setting precedents like that. What if the season was only a couple of weeks old. You wouldn’t award the title to the team sitting at the top would you?March 22, 2020 at 11:16 am #1836273
Chris, I hear what you say I don’t think there are any right answers in this tbh..
The most right answer is probably to complete the season but practically when that could be is open to conjecture and the current plan to complete all games over a circa 3 week period behind closed doors at neutral grounds in and around the Midlands potentially from June 1st might fulfill the fixture list but the circumstances taint the results and the eventual outcomes imo too.
The above is currently what the PL favour whatever we do requires a 14 PL Club majority vote and part of the desire to complete the season asap is driven imo by the potential loss of TV monies and Sponsorship monies.
Currently there doesn’t seem to be an appetite to void the season amongst the PL Clubs and it would throw up difficulties outside of Liverpool not winning the title because European places would have to be decided on last season’s positions and Sheffield United are currently in a European place but weren’t even in the PL then and Spurs would be awarded a CL place which they look most unlikely to achieve this season and there would be no promotion from the Championship either if the season is voided.
I forsee lots of potential law suits.😊
I question whether we can start playing football again from June 1st and indeed when we might be able to play football again and if it all slips into the Autumn or the early Winter which it well might whether there will be the same appetite from the PL Clubs to complete the season then as there is now and ultimately if it doesn’t happen they would have to vote on voiding or freezing the season as it stood which would be the only two options left and it’s difficult to predict which way they would go.
More questions than answers buddie.🤝
Cheers 9’sMarch 22, 2020 at 1:13 pm #1836294
999 I can’t see them being able to play in June. You just have to look at the graph curves to see many countries are on the same outcome, if not worse than Italy. Unfortunately it is going to be like a blood bath in the next few months. This virus is doubling every few days and people aren’t taking heed and many countries ar3 not prepared for it. Even if you look at Australia, you rarely see people wearing masks. We ar3 told we don’t need them. The truth is the supply of masks for the public is non existent. We are still sending our kids to school, when nearly all th3 world has shut schools. Our kids are going to make schools breeding grounds and bring the virus home o most of the population. We don’t have enough ventilators, ICU units or protective equipment. Borders are still open, public transport is still not inning and we are allowed gatherings outside of up to 500 people, and up to 100 people indoors. Crazy really. In times lim3 this you hope you have a good leader that has a grip on it all. We actually had a chance to nip this in the bud here, but the government has taken poor action.March 22, 2020 at 2:01 pm #1836306
I pray Chris all of us on here together with our loved ones all come out on the other side of all this, every day it seems to get worse both here and around the world.
Currently football seems very unimportant. 🙏March 22, 2020 at 6:17 pm #1836338
“The Premier League’s next meeting is scheduled for 3 April but clubs will not be asked to agree to the 1 June date until there is a greater understanding of when the COVID-19 pandemic will reach its peak in the UK.
Further, no decision will be made that puts further strain on the emergency services, as some competitions necessitate the presence of ambulances and medical staff at matches – even if they are played behind closed doors.” Daily Mirror.March 23, 2020 at 7:20 am #1836349
Chris, see the report below if the Olympics have to go what chance is there of any football being played in June even behind closed doors more realism is required from the Football Authorities and the PL.
And if we push it back too far it will make next season impossible to finish too with the Euros now scheduled in the Summer of 2021.
“Canada has become the first country to warn that it won’t send its athletes to the Tokyo Olympics unless they are postponed for a year, as pressure builds to delay the Games due to the coronavirus pandemic.
The Canadian Olympic Committee said holding the Games as planned would threaten the health of its athletes, “their families and the broader Canadian community for athletes to continue training for these Games”.
“In fact, it runs counter to the public health advice which we urge all Canadians to follow,” it said in a statement, hours after the Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, conceded for the first time that postponement was now a possibility if the Games could not be held in their “complete form”.
The committee added: “While we recognise the inherent complexities around a postponement, nothing is more important than the health and safety of our athletes and the world community.”
The Australian Olympic committee (AOC), meanwhile, has told its athletes to prepare to compete in the Olympics in the northern-hemisphere summer of 2021.
Olympics postponement to 2021 on cards as IOC gives itself four-week deadline
The AOC said the massive disruption caused by the outbreak would make it impossible to assemble a team in time for the Games, which are scheduled to open on 24 July.
“We have athletes based overseas, training at central locations around Australia as teams and managing their own programs. With travel and other restrictions this becomes an untenable situation,” its chief executive, Matt Carroll, said in a statement on Monday.
New Zealand added to pressure for a delay, saying the country would consider boycotting the Olympics if they open as scheduled.
The committee’s president, Mike Stanley, published an open letter on Monday in which he wrote, “Athletes need a safe, and fair, playing field to compete and, right now, the widespread and evolving impact of Covid-19 is not allowing that to happen.” He urged the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to “finalise their decision as soon as possible, bringing clarity to our sports and athletes”.
A few hours later, following the news that Japan was considering postponing the Games, Stanley told Newshub that “postponement is the only way to go”, and that New Zealand would consider a boycott if the Games went ahead as planned.
Opposition to holding the event in July has risen sharply in recent days, with US Track and Field and UK Athletics among those calling for a delay because of the pandemic. Several countries, including Brazil, Norway and Slovenia, have pressed the IOC to consider postponement but have not threatened a boycott.” The GuardianMarch 23, 2020 at 11:46 am #1836430
999. Yes I agree with Canada. Sending their athletes would have been contrary to all that they are telling their public. In Australia, we had a joke situation where similar messages were being told to the public, and then the government were allowing the footy players to play behind closed doors with a big hoorah. Totally stupid and sent out completely the wrong message to the public. Luckily, after playing just one round the players themselves withdrew. Our government publicised support for those that have unfortunately just lost their jobs because they want to bring in social distancing. So brainlessly they got all those that need help standing almost shoulder to shoulder trying to sign on at all the Centrelinks throughout Australia. I just can’t believe how poorly things are being handled. Those poor people could end up losing their lives as well as their jobs now after all the possible Cross exposureMarch 23, 2020 at 12:36 pm #1836443
I live in Canada and am pretty happy of all measures that the federal and provincial and even municipal governments have done so far. Almost everything is stopped at the moment. Including not to send athletes to Olympics I think it’s really important to focus solely on handling Covid-19. The curve is exponential. No country wants to repeat the situation in Italy or in Spain. However it seems that it is very difficult for people to respect the measures. Still people going out, people don’t respect distances etc.
Premier League, 1 June for now is the date agreed. But my feeling is that it’s still simply too soon to restart any sporting events. I start to tend to agree that this season should just be voided. If we want to hand the title to Liverpool, I don’t think any team would complain as they are far above. But other thing like relegation, promotion, UCL spots: should be voided. Take last season’s participants for UCL spots. No relegation, no promotion. In this kind of situation we’ve never seen: I think sports is much less important than people’s safety. Less important than all the efforts to prevent the spread of this disease.
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